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JohnnyHammersticks 11-26-2023 06:30 PM

#FreeRasheeRice

How long have we been saying this????

Let the man eat, for pete's sake. He's a dawg

Bump 11-26-2023 06:30 PM

keep him out there and keep giving him targets. Draft moar receivers next year, sign a couple too! cut the rest of them!

Hammock Parties 11-26-2023 06:30 PM

that sideline catch is just tits

that is the key to unlock the next level of the offense

JohnnyHammersticks 11-26-2023 06:31 PM

His drop (the other one was a bad pass imo) came from looking upfield too soon and taking his eyes off the ball. He's a good hands-catcher, just needs to work on the concentration issues.

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-26-2023 06:33 PM

IT'S RICE SZN BBY

golfindude 11-26-2023 06:54 PM

BEFORE this game he was 3rd in rookie WR TD.

Easy 6 11-26-2023 07:00 PM

This was as close to a "coming out party" as any Reid rookie could hope for... just leave him in there Andy, stop this mix and match shellgame bullshit once and for all

Easy 6 11-26-2023 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17200027)

PURE SEX

Hamwallet 11-26-2023 07:13 PM

Someone can catch a ball besides Kelce on the Chiefs? That’s nice.

Chris Meck 11-26-2023 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17245337)
that sideline catch is just tits

that is the key to unlock the next level of the offense

Came here to say this.

If Mahomes starts trusting Rice on those, we're going to light people up.

NJChiefsFan 11-26-2023 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17245337)
that sideline catch is just tits

that is the key to unlock the next level of the offense

I love those types of catches. He is going to be good. Even the drops are happening more because he is trying to do too much. His drops I'm not really that worried about.

Chiefshrink 11-26-2023 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17245350)
His drop (the other one was a bad pass imo)

THIS. Bad pass only. That was on Pat only IMO.

carcosa 11-26-2023 07:17 PM

WR1

Tribal Warfare 11-26-2023 07:18 PM

Dude plays *like* Sterling Sharpe

Stryker 11-26-2023 07:18 PM

INCREDIBLE performance today! He is getting better and better each game! :clap::thumb:

Chiefshrink 11-26-2023 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers (Post 17245596)
PURE SEX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17245704)
Came here to say this.

If Mahomes starts trusting Rice on those, we're going to light people up.

Totally agree!

Seriously, Rashee is our AJ Brown the more I watch this kid. Size,Speed,Strength and Hands when his ADD is under control.:D

Hammock Parties 11-26-2023 07:28 PM

at this point i think he's having a better rookie season than d-bowe

which was the best rookie WR we pretty much ever had, he was even better than tyreek

Chiefspants 11-26-2023 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17245756)
at this point i think he's having a better rookie season than d-bowe

which was the best rookie WR we pretty much ever had, he was even better than tyreek

He was outstanding today.

staylor26 11-26-2023 07:33 PM

The best part about Rice is how many people hated him and the pick (not just on CP or Chiefs fans either).

Brett Kollman and a lot of the draft guys I listen to thought Rice was a mid round pick.

I never understood it.

BryanBusby 11-26-2023 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17245797)
The best part about Rice is how many people hated him and the pick (not just on CP or Chiefs fans either).

Brett Kollman and a lot of the draft guys I listen to thought Rice was a mid round pick.

I never understood it.

Way too worked up about track times.

Chris Meck 11-26-2023 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17245797)
The best part about Rice is how many people hated him and the pick (not just on CP or Chiefs fans either).

Brett Kollman and a lot of the draft guys I listen to thought Rice was a mid round pick.

I never understood it.

The YAC stuff was all there on his college tape, but what I'm super excited about was that sideline grab, because that's the first of that we've seen this season, but was also a staple of his college tape.

Mahomes starts throwing those to the kid, and we're going to light people up.

Chiefspants 11-26-2023 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17245797)
The best part about Rice is how many people hated him and the pick (not just on CP or Chiefs fans either).

Brett Kollman and a lot of the draft guys I listen to thought Rice was a mid round pick.

I never understood it.

A lot of people hyper focused on the drops, which I understand.

But, like Kelce early in his career, the solution seems to be to just keep feeding him the ball. If he can get open, make tough catches, and be an absolute monster in open space, the benefits of getting him the ball are going to outweigh the occasional drop.

Remember how many of us yearned for a gunslinger who would throw the occasional INT after over 2 decades of retread QB's who played it safe? Similar logic, I think.

Chris Meck 11-26-2023 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 17245805)
Way too worked up about track times.

yeah, but even then, the 10 and 20 yard splits were elite.

staylor26 11-26-2023 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 17245805)
Way too worked up about track times.

Thing is he tested pretty well.

His 40 time was good enough, and his 10 yard split and explosiveness were elite.

Extremely productive guys that test well tend to translate.

BigRedChief 11-26-2023 07:36 PM

The only time he’d better be off the field is to catch his breath.

BryanBusby 11-26-2023 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17245820)
Thing is he tested pretty well.

His 40 time was good enough, and his 10 yard split and explosiveness were elite.

I'm telling you. Anymore if you're not running a 4.40 or lower you are basically an UDFA in draft jackoffs eyes.

Chiefshrink 11-26-2023 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17245811)
was that sideline grab,

The Holy Spirit in my soul was jumping for joy on that one for sure!! The only other WR on our crew that did that earlier in the season was Ross but.......:rolleyes:

Can you imagine IF Ross hadn't "screwed the pooch"?????:shrug:

RunKC 11-26-2023 07:42 PM

Brett Kollman doesn't know anything about football FFS.

Guy had Rice as a Tier 5 WR in his draft rankings with UDRFA's and thought Rice was a POS.

He's a YouTuber that worked for the NFL getting people coffee. He's not a scout

Hammock Parties 11-26-2023 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 17245823)
I'm telling you. Anymore if you're not running a 4.40 or lower you are basically an UDFA in draft jackoffs eyes.

Which is stupid. We watched Bowe's entire career. He was a 4.5 guy and he had plenty of huge YAC plays, and even got straight deep balls once in awhile.

Rashee is faster than Bowe.

Chiefshrink 11-26-2023 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17245838)
Rashee is

our version of AJ Brown PERIOD!

Pasta Little Brioni 11-26-2023 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17245797)
The best part about Rice is how many people hated him and the pick (not just on CP or Chiefs fans either).

Brett Kollman and a lot of the draft guys I listen to thought Rice was a mid round pick.

I never understood it.

Why would you take anything that clown says to heart. He's terrible ROFL

smithandrew051 11-26-2023 07:53 PM

Had we passed on this guy, we’d all point to him as the DK that got away

staylor26 11-26-2023 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17245877)
Why would you take anything that clown says to heart. He's terrible ROFL

Who said I took it to heart?

I just noticed a pattern. He was a polarizing prospect. People either loved him or hated him.

staylor26 11-26-2023 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17245881)
Had we passed on this guy, we’d all point to him as the DK that got away

He's better than George ****ing Pickens too.

There, I said it, and I liked Pickens more coming out.

JohnnyHammersticks 11-26-2023 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17245961)
He's better than George ****ing Pickens too.

There, I said it, and I liked Pickens more coming out.

We could’ve had them both… :whackit:

BryanBusby 11-26-2023 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17245838)
Which is stupid. We watched Bowe's entire career. He was a 4.5 guy and he had plenty of huge YAC plays, and even got straight deep balls once in awhile.

Rashee is faster than Bowe.

It is but people never learn.

MahomesMagic 11-26-2023 08:49 PM

Rice is the only WR on this team I want to see on the roster next year.

ThyKingdomCome15 11-26-2023 09:02 PM

Drops easy ones, catches super tough ones, and an explosive athlete. That was basically his draft profile.

He is precisely as advertised and looks like he can develope into Veach's first WR gem. What a game!!

Biggest thing is he has chemistry with Patrick. He and Patrick improvised for some chunk yards today. When you start to play that game with Patrick he'll fire it to you even when you're not open, which Rice happened to catch anyway. I mean wow. LMAO

Hammock Parties 11-26-2023 09:07 PM

his drops issue really isn't an issue anymore

catch rate higher than juju

Valiant 11-26-2023 09:22 PM

I know we couldn't get Fitz to come play for us. But maybe the ownership can hire him training camp to train our wrs.

Chiefshrink 11-26-2023 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17246140)
his drops issue really isn't an issue anymore

catch rate higher than juju

Dude, it's only been one game, he needs to show "catch consistency" the rest of this season and trying to compare him to Juju is so disingenuous comparing one game to Juju's whole season with us.

Delano 11-26-2023 09:32 PM

From a few days ago: Earlier in the year, it was very clear that the Chiefs were finding specific times to put Rice on the field. The team unleashed him in scenarios that suited his understanding of the offense and what he could handle at the time. He got described by some as more of a package player because of that, but that tag may not be following him anymore. On Tuesday, offensive coordinator Matt Nagy praised Rice for his progress and said he's trusted to do many things in the offense now.

“Not necessarily, I think he’s done a good job of being able to show us that he can do more," Nagy said. "(He’s) taking the time throughout the week to understand certain route concepts. We know what he can do with the football in his hands. We saw that yesterday a few times, he’s a physical runner, he has strong hands. Now I think you’re noticing that some of his snaps are going up slightly as far as his percentages of snaps. We want to continue to do that, that’s part of development and the trust factor – which is real. The more we can get at that, the better we will be because he’s a very good football player. You’re right he is growing, but it will be in increments, and we like the path he is on right now.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gm-rep...hee-rice-is-on

staylor26 11-26-2023 10:16 PM

Quote:

"I think we've only scratched the surface, honestly," Mahomes said. "I think you've seen us hitting him kind of around the line of scrimmage, you saw the one around the sideline. I think he can do some of the vertical threat stuff. He has speed and he has burst, you can see it when he has the football in his hands. So let's start working him in and getting him more opportunities. It's hard when defenses play us like this — we've put some kind of deep-crossers and stuff in where defenses are settling back and I can go underneath. But I think he has a chance to be a great receiver in this league, and we're going to continue to push him to be that receiver every single week."
.

Sure-Oz 11-26-2023 10:44 PM

Had 40 snaps which led all WR's...

RunKC 11-26-2023 10:47 PM

He's grown so much as a rookie. Really reminds me of Christian Watson.

He's starting to figure it out

M0j0 11-27-2023 01:33 AM

He had some really nice plays. Loved the back shoulder catch and tap.. that was an underrated play. Chiefs ended up punting but without that play they likely punt from the end zone. Keep it coming. 1 weapon is starting to develop.

Rasputin 11-27-2023 03:43 AM

Rice,, McDuffie and Pechecko are blooming stars for this Franchise.

chiefzilla1501 11-27-2023 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17245811)
The YAC stuff was all there on his college tape, but what I'm super excited about was that sideline grab, because that's the first of that we've seen this season, but was also a staple of his college tape.

Mahomes starts throwing those to the kid, and we're going to light people up.

Hell it’s something we haven’t had for years. These are the kind of x/y plays I was really hoping for this offseason. It opens so much of the playbook if rashee can consistently win on these plays and just as importantly make plays on the ball even if he’s not necessarily open. If he can do this consistently we will finally get some of that rhythm back

JPH83 11-27-2023 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M0j0 (Post 17246762)
He had some really nice plays. Loved the back shoulder catch and tap.. that was an underrated play. Chiefs ended up punting but without that play they likely punt from the end zone. Keep it coming. 1 weapon is starting to develop.

Totally agree with you and Chris Meck on the back shoulder pass. Very encouraging

Mosbonian 11-27-2023 06:42 AM

Let's hope that this is just the first of several games of growth for Rice....would love to see a few more TD's like that 39 yard one he had yesterday.

Chris Meck 11-27-2023 06:43 AM

I'm not saying that Rice is Chase, but just how many of those does Burrow throw whenever Chase is one on one outside, and the coverage is pretty good, and they just complete the damned thing anyway?

I mean, it's a TON.

We've never really had that as a piece of the repertoire here, but if we're going to have that on the table, we're going to start lighting people up.

farmerchief 11-27-2023 07:06 AM

His game speed appears to be faster than his combine testing scores, which is great! His 10-20 yd time was great at the combine, but 40 yd lagged a little compared to others. He seems to hit another gear with the ball in his hands.

RunKC 11-27-2023 08:31 AM

On his way to being the best Andy Reid rookie WR statistically.

DeSean Jackson- 62 Catches/912 Yds/2 TDs
Jeremy Maclin - 56 Catches/773 Yds/4 TDs
Tyreek Hill - 61 Catches/593 Yds/6 TDs
Reggie Brown - 43 Catches/571 Yds/4 TDs
Mecole Hardman - 26 Catches/538 Yds/6 TDs

Rashee Rice - 44 Catches/527 Yds/5 TDs

O.city 11-27-2023 08:34 AM

I think he could get to 1k yards if all breaks his way coming down the stretch. Probably needs another 100 yard game though.

R Clark 11-27-2023 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17246873)
I think he could get to 1k yards if all breaks his way coming down the stretch. Probably needs another 100 yard game though.

With how the other wide receiver’s are playing it’s essential

JohnnyHammersticks 11-27-2023 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17246804)
I'm not saying that Rice is Chase, but just how many of those does Burrow throw whenever Chase is one on one outside, and the coverage is pretty good, and they just complete the damned thing anyway?

I mean, it's a TON.

We've never really had that as a piece of the repertoire here, but if we're going to have that on the table, we're going to start lighting people up.

Charvarius Ward concurs.

Sure-Oz 11-27-2023 09:07 AM

He looks at worst that he could be a #2 if he keeps improving

duncan_idaho 11-27-2023 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17246870)
On his way to being the best Andy Reid rookie WR statistically.

DeSean Jackson- 62 Catches/912 Yds/2 TDs
Jeremy Maclin - 56 Catches/773 Yds/4 TDs
Tyreek Hill - 61 Catches/593 Yds/6 TDs
Reggie Brown - 43 Catches/571 Yds/4 TDs
Mecole Hardman - 26 Catches/538 Yds/6 TDs

Rashee Rice - 44 Catches/527 Yds/5 TDs

He'll need to step it up a decent chunk to surpass Jackson's yardage total, but he seems likely to me to get at least 2 TDs and become the most productive from that measure.

ChiTown 11-27-2023 09:12 AM

Rice is a stud. He just needs to tighten up that focus catching the ball. Otherwise, he's been a dandy pick at #55, IMO.

DJ's left nut 11-27-2023 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17245328)
he's full juju now

Oh just shut the **** up, goddamn weathervane.

A week ago you're in here shitting on him as not being capable of doing what JuJu could do and just banging on the table about it.

One game later you think he's suddenly figured it all out? Or maybe you just don't know your ass from a hole in the ground?

Stick to the gifs because your 'insight' is worth precisely dick.

DJ's left nut 11-27-2023 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17245797)
The best part about Rice is how many people hated him and the pick (not just on CP or Chiefs fans either).

Brett Kollman and a lot of the draft guys I listen to thought Rice was a mid round pick.

I never understood it.

Yeah, I noticed that almost immediately after the pick was made:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16924357)
I just started picking through the thread and am pretty damn surprised by the pushback. This guy is an ideal X here. Great ball skills, plays physical, very good in space, good quicks. He didn't time as well as I expected because I actually see strong downfield speed as well but admittedly that could be quality of competition.

Like, I'm not even beating my chest over this one because it just seems like a bit of a 'duh' pick to me. He's gonna he real good, IMO.

I just never understood why anyone was down on this pick. It was just a damn obvious pick to me. He had an obvious role and a clear NFL ready skill-set.

Some people just have no idea what they're looking at and really need it fed to them. And I've already said my piece on NFL Draft Twitter - just a vast echo-chamber of hot-take artists and clout chasers. It's become almost completely worthless.

Kiimo 11-27-2023 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17246596)
Really reminds me of Christian Watson.


I'm not sure how you can compare the two, seems those two players have only two things in common:

They play WR
They improved

DJ's left nut 11-27-2023 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17246870)
On his way to being the best Andy Reid rookie WR statistically.

DeSean Jackson- 62 Catches/912 Yds/2 TDs
Jeremy Maclin - 56 Catches/773 Yds/4 TDs
Tyreek Hill - 61 Catches/593 Yds/6 TDs
Reggie Brown - 43 Catches/571 Yds/4 TDs
Mecole Hardman - 26 Catches/538 Yds/6 TDs

Rashee Rice - 44 Catches/527 Yds/5 TDs

75 catches and 1,000 yards is on the table for him.

By no means a given, but those should be his targets. They're attainable and they'll demonstrate sustainable development. They're also a good ring to chase (not too easy; not too hard).

6 games to get 30 catches and 475 yards. 5/80 is really strong pace but he has that ability and it seems like maaaaaaybe we're going to unleash him a bit.

Hammock Parties 11-27-2023 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17246961)
Oh just shut the **** up, goddamn weathervane.

A week ago you're in here shitting on him as not being capable of doing what JuJu could do and just banging on the table about it.

One game later you think he's suddenly figured it all out? Or maybe you just don't know your ass from a hole in the ground?

Stick to the gifs because your 'insight' is worth precisely dick.

It's almost like players improve. Imagine that.

Yes, he's very close to giving us what JuJu gave us last season now.

You don't have to spaz out about it. We weren't getting it until now.

I also never said he wasn't capable.

O.city 11-27-2023 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17246969)
Yeah, I noticed that almost immediately after the pick was made:



I just never understood why anyone was down on this pick. It was just a damn obvious pick to me. He had an obvious role and a clear NFL ready skill-set.

Some people just have no idea what they're looking at and really need it fed to them. And I've already said my piece on NFL Draft Twitter - just a vast echo-chamber of hot-take artists and clout chasers. It's become almost completely worthless.

He's gonna look great across from Malik Nabers or Brandon Aiyuk next year here too.

Tribal Warfare 11-27-2023 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 17246812)
His game speed appears to be faster than his combine testing scores, which is great! His 10-20 yd time was great at the combine, but 40 yd lagged a little compared to others. He seems to hit another gear with the ball in his hands.

The Analytics experts said it was mathematically impossible that Rice had such a fast 10 to 20 yards split that ended at a 4.5 finishing point. Thus, whom or what timed him ****ed up

DJ's left nut 11-27-2023 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17247112)
He's gonna look great across from Malik Nabers or Brandon Aiyuk next year here too.

McMillan missed enough time that I wonder if he doesn't go back to Washington for his senior year to try to boost his stock after Odunze goes pro.

Doesn't seem like some strong games in September are going to get him where he wants to be. But if he enters the draft and is there in the 2nd, that's still my guy.

DJ's left nut 11-27-2023 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17247133)
The Analytics experts said it was mathematically impossible that Rice had such a fast 10 to 20 yards split that ended at a 4.5 finishing point. Thus, whom or what timed him ****ed up

Yeah, the 4.5 just didn't make a lot of sense to me from what I saw on tape. I assumed I was seeing what I wanted to see since it just never occurred to me that the damn stopwatch might be wrong...

Again - I just never understood the push-back over the pick. It seemed so obvious what the team saw and how he could be used here.

O.city 11-27-2023 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17247136)
McMillan missed enough time that I wonder if he doesn't go back to Washington for his senior year to try to boost his stock after Odunze goes pro.

Doesn't seem like some strong games in September are going to get him where he wants to be. But if he enters the draft and is there in the 2nd, that's still my guy.

I can't imagine he'd do that with the QB being gone.

I'm done with the 2nd round WR's. They need a legit outside guy....trade up or trade for one.

smithandrew051 11-27-2023 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17246981)
75 catches and 1,000 yards is on the table for him.

By no means a given, but those should be his targets. They're attainable and they'll demonstrate sustainable development. They're also a good ring to chase (not too easy; not too hard).

6 games to get 30 catches and 475 yards. 5/80 is really strong pace but he has that ability and it seems like maaaaaaybe we're going to unleash him a bit.

If that’s the case, the WR room doesn’t seem near as dire as it did.

Get a decent FA and another good early pick in there, and next year could be really good. Especially, if Toney ever becomes a reliable weapon of any kind.

DJ's left nut 11-27-2023 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17247139)
I can't imagine he'd do that with the QB being gone.

I'm done with the 2nd round WR's. They need a legit outside guy....trade up or trade for one.

Nah - just scout/draft better.

Presuming for the sake of argument that Hardman was a 'bad' pick - better scouting gets McLaurin or Metcalf.

Rice was a clear win.

Moore's a bust and there wasn't a TON behind him, but if you take Pierce or Doubs (and we'll even set aside Pickens as well for the moment, though I'm not sure why we should) then you're not in awful shape with that pick either.

The 2nd has plenty of WR talent. Now late 2nd thins out a bit, so you may have to trade up a bit there, but you get a lot more movement for your capital in the 2nd than you do in the 1st. What can move you up 10-12 spots in the 2nd moves you up 1-2 in the 1st.

I'm not going to slam the door on the 2nd round just because Skyy Moore is lousy. Because that was a scouting failure and little else.

O.city 11-27-2023 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17247148)
Nah - just scout/draft better.

Presuming for the sake of argument that Hardman was a 'bad' pick - better scouting gets McLaurin or Metcalf.

Rice was a clear win.

Moore's a bust and there wasn't a TON behind him, but if you take Pierce or Doubs (and we'll even set aside Pickens as well for the moment, though I'm not sure why we should) then you're not in awful shape with that pick either.

The 2nd has plenty of WR talent. Now late 2nd thins out a bit, so you may have to trade up a bit there, but you get a lot more movement for your capital in the 2nd than you do in the 1st. What can move you up 10-12 spots in the 2nd moves you up 1-2 in the 1st.

I'm not going to slam the door on the 2nd round just because Skyy Moore is lousy. Because that was a scouting failure and little else.

I'd keep doing that around the margins......but Kelce looks like father time is knocking a bit and we need some horses sooner than later here. I'd imagine all the big guys are gone earlier than we'll pick so that might end up helping a LT fall a bit or a DT.

I'm also just....well I'm jealous of these teams getting these badass WR's early and I would like one. I really want Marvin Harrison to develop some kind of thing that drops him to our pick. How do we do that?

Sure-Oz 11-27-2023 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17247142)
If that’s the case, the WR room doesn’t seem near as dire as it did.



Get a decent FA and another good early pick in there, and next year could be really good. Especially, if Toney ever becomes a reliable weapon of any kind.

Not counting on Toney to ever be reliable. Hopefully he will play 20-30 snaps if possible and have a few catches/runs to make an impact. The whole room except Rice needs to be replaced still. Toney I think will be gone once his contract is up. I just don't see him even putting up Watkins #s

DJ's left nut 11-27-2023 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17247151)
I'd keep doing that around the margins......but Kelce looks like father time is knocking a bit and we need some horses sooner than later here. I'd imagine all the big guys are gone earlier than we'll pick so that might end up helping a LT fall a bit or a DT.

I'm also just....well I'm jealous of these teams getting these badass WR's early and I would like one. I really want Marvin Harrison to develop some kind of thing that drops him to our pick. How do we do that?

Top 10 is DAMN hard to break into from the back of the round. And that's where you have to get for the kind of guys you're likely to be satisfied with.

Gotta make the right move at the right time. There wasn't anyone in the '23 draft I'd have done that for. Maybe Wilson in the '22 draft (Olave seems to be trending that valuable as well).

This might be a year to do it. Nabers and Odunze are maybe attainable in that range given the depth of the top of the draft. Not sure I'd be too eager to move up that high for Coleman, Mitchell or Egbuka, though.

O.city 11-27-2023 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17247159)
Top 10 is DAMN hard to break into from the back of the round. And that's where you have to get for the kind of guys you're likely to be satisfied with.

Gotta make the right move at the right time. There wasn't anyone in the '23 draft I'd have done that for. Maybe Wilson in the '22 draft (Olave seems to be trending that valuable as well).

This might be a year to do it. Nabers and Odunze are maybe attainable in that range given the depth of the top of the draft. Not sure I'd be too eager to move up that high for Coleman, Mitchell or Egbuka, though.

I don't think I'd actually move up for one to be honest. The value difference between those guys and the guys taken later are there but don't think it's worth the amount to go up and get one.

I'd love for the Saints to want to blow it up and trade us Olave though.

BossChief 11-27-2023 11:39 AM

I wonder if we can package CJ95 and our first to get up high enough for an elite WR

Gravedigger 11-27-2023 11:39 AM

Keep feeding him until he's drawing double teams, he's good enough to space out and win one on one battles.

BigCatDaddy 11-27-2023 11:40 AM

IF we can tag and move CJ for a 1st that gives us a lot of options. I'd almost rather double dip at WR with 2 of the top 3 picks then move up.

DJ's left nut 11-27-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17247163)
I don't think I'd actually move up for one to be honest. The value difference between those guys and the guys taken later are there but don't think it's worth the amount to go up and get one.

I'd love for the Saints to want to blow it up and trade us Olave though.

I'd be fine with one of the top 5/6 WRs at the back of the 1st. Eminently defensible for any of them, really.

It's a deep WR class.

I'm just saying I wouldn't necessarily be locked in (or out) of any round at the position.

O.city 11-27-2023 11:48 AM

Guys.....if Jones wants the money everyone seems to think he does, no one is trading a first and paying him that.


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