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staylor26 11-09-2022 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16591348)
I know he’s only a rookie but it’s not like he had great sack numbers in college either.
This narrative is overblown.

He had 7.5 sacks as a Freshman.

He had 2 in 2 games as a Sophomore.

In year 3 he only had 4.5 while being double and triple teamed often.

That entire narrative is based on year 3.

Megatron96 11-09-2022 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16591348)
I know he’s only a rookie but it’s not like he had great sack numbers in college either.
By his senior year every team was double- and sometimes even triple-teaming him because he was the only pass-rushing threat on that team. and he still got 4 sacks and I think he led the team i pressures or hits or whatever.


Again, not saying he's Reggie White, there's a reason he wasn't drafted in the top 15. But there's the reason he didn't pile up sacks in his last year in college. he would've had to be elite to beat double-teams consistently, and then it follows he would've been drafted in the top 15, not at 30.

AdolfOliverBush 11-09-2022 12:59 PM
He's a rookie playing next to Nnada, and receiving pass rushing pointers from Frank Clark.

The Chiefs are lucky this guy can put his ****ing uniform on correctly.

BWillie 11-09-2022 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16591348)
I know he’s only a rookie but it’s not like he had great sack numbers in college either.
Precisely. Thats why its worrisome. For some reason when he gets near the QB..the struggles start.

New World Order 11-09-2022 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16591442)
He's a rookie playing next to Nnada, and receiving pass rushing pointers from Frank Clark.

The Chiefs are lucky this guy can put his ****ing uniform on correctly.
LMAO

htismaqe 11-09-2022 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16591348)
I know he’s only a rookie but it’s not like he had great sack numbers in college either.
I watched almost every game of his college career. I'm a B1G junkie.

Even against the Hawkeyes vaunted line last year, he was a game wrecker.

Teams started tripling him because he was, quite simply, a man amongst boys a lot of the time.

raybec 4 11-09-2022 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16591458)
Precisely. Thats why its worrisome. For some reason when he gets near the QB..the struggles start.
Are you contractually obligated to say dumb shit?

NJChiefsFan 11-09-2022 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16591442)
He's a rookie playing next to Nnada, and receiving pass rushing pointers from Frank Clark.

The Chiefs are lucky this guy can put his ****ing uniform on correctly.
This is the funniest post I've read here in a while.

Pitt Gorilla 11-09-2022 03:19 PM
Reminds me of the CP take that McDuffy is injury prone.

DJ's left nut 11-09-2022 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16591719)
I watched almost every game of his college career. I'm a B1G junkie.

Even against the Hawkeyes vaunted line last year, he was a game wrecker.

Teams started tripling him because he was, quite simply, a man amongst boys a lot of the time.
He's an SDE - his job is to muck shit up more than finish it. And he typically does a fine job of that, especially for a rookie.

The problem isn't Karlaftis, it's the failure to provide him with a complementary bookend. And ultimately it's the expectations laid out there by idiots with blogs and blue check marks who predicted him smashing DT's sack record.

That was always a completely asinine expectation.

htismaqe 11-09-2022 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16591348)
I know he’s only a rookie but it’s not like he had great sack numbers in college either.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16591871)
He's an SDE - his job is to muck shit up more than finish it. And he typically does a fine job of that, especially for a rookie.

The problem isn't Karlaftis, it's the failure to provide him with a complementary bookend. And ultimately it's the expectations laid out there by idiots with blogs and blue check marks who predicted him smashing DT's sack record.

That was always a completely asinine expectation.
Exactly.

tyecopeland 11-09-2022 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16591280)
So even with stunts and blitzes removed, he's still 2nd best in the class.

How is that a bad thing?
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem with these numbers.

There's supposedly 64 starting edge players and he's 47th as a rookie good for 2nd amongst rookies. Could it better? Sure. But damn, give the guy some time.

Tribal Warfare 11-09-2022 04:05 PM
I'm waiting to be proven wrong concerning Karlaftis after being a preseason MVP, but he's JAG. His most ardent supporters made him out to be post knee injury Justin Houston or prime Justin Smith.

raybec 4 11-09-2022 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16591970)
I'm waiting to be proven wrong concerning Karlaftis after being a preseason MVP, but he's JAG. His most ardent supporters made him out to be post knee injury Justin Houston or prime Justin Smith.
To be fair, every draft pick the Chiefs make are pumped up to be All Pros until they prove they aren't. Moore was going to be the #1 by the end of the season. Karlaftis was going to have 8 sacks, Kinnard was taking Wylie's job before the bye etc. All that shit has to come with a grain of salt.

Megatron96 11-09-2022 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16591348)
I know he’s only a rookie but it’s not like he had great sack numbers in college either.
I get it, but he's not a sack specialist. He's never going to be one. DJ outlined it pretty well above somewhere, but essentially, George is never going to be Jared Allen. And forget about how many sacks he had or didn't have in college. Veach didn't pick him because he was the second coming of Derrick Thomas. He picked him because he showed multiple skillsets, one of them being his ability to get pressure, even when double-teamed (high motor/relentless).

He's going to play clean-up opposite someone more explosive. He's more of a Tamba Hali guy, that needs a more explosive EDGE on the other side to generate sacks consistently.

kccrow 11-09-2022 09:12 PM
This thread has become incredibly entertaining.

Halfcan 11-09-2022 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16592623)
This thread has become incredibly entertaining.
;)

I love the way George plays. After years of watching players take plays off on defense, it is great to see this guy out there.

BossChief 11-09-2022 11:48 PM
27. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS (VIA BUCCANEERS): EDGE GEORGE KARLAFTIS

Original Pick: LB Devin Lloyd

Devin Lloyd has been an impact player in a few areas for the Jaguars. But with Jacksonville selecting Sauce Gardner at the top of this draft, they need some trench help. Karlaftis has already seen a ton of action this season. His 233 pass-rush snaps are third-most among rookies, behind only Travon Walker and Aidan Hutchinson. His 23 pressures rank second, and his 18 quarterback hurries come in at No. 1.

Bump 11-10-2022 12:36 AM
he's getting the pressure and seems good against the run. He'll progress and figure out how to finish those sacks, no worries he good.

Megatron96 11-10-2022 12:58 AM
For the record, I still think Karlaftis gets around 7 sacks or more this season. He's still in his head, imo, trying to execute the play correctly and read what's actually happening in the play. Once he starts playing more instinctively, he'll start playing faster, and stack some sacks. Getting Frank back on the field, if Clark comes back playing right where he left off, will help with that.

JPH83 11-10-2022 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16591245)
LOl, he's a rookie. You didn't really expect him to win every snap?

But to say that he has poor recognition is just not the case.

He's making plays in the run game. Not every play, but he's making most of them. And I'm not talking about just making tackles or setting the edge. It's his recognition; this guy aint no Dee Ford. He's way ahead of guys like Dee when it comes to recognizing whether it's a run or a pass after the snap. What you call over-eagerness I think is just George beginning the snap as a pass rusher because that's the play-call, then recognizing that's it's a run, and adjusting on the fly. Basically, exactly what happened in the clip above. Actually, i think there's at least two fo them in that post with the multiple clips in t.


Does he need to work on is skills? Sure. But there's no question that he's a positive player on the DL right now, either making plays on his own or creating opportunities for other players, like that INT vs. SF a couple weeks ago. He didn't get there, but he created the pressure, along with Thornhill, and Jimmy had to try and throw that ball over and around Karlaftis, which forced the bad pass that Watson(?) intercepted.

Imo, Karlaftis is a solid run defender now. Maybe you have some specific examples to look at that show something different, but so far i haven't seen anything that says he's struggling vs. the run.
Nope, not really, but did you think he'd have zero sacks and what was it an 11% win rate outside of stunts? I remember how hyped we all were during preseason and if anyone says the numbers are where they were expecting I'd say they're lying.

I'd 100% agree he's been unlucky on a couple of occasions with other guys beating him to the sack. Also I dont know what his assignments are and what he's been asked to concentrate on, maybe he's doing exactly what's expected of him against the run.

I also completely get the argument he's getting there and it'll come, I'm still of that opinion. But I don't get what people have seen to this point and I dont buy that I'm the only person who expected a little more at this stage. I'm not arguing what he will become just what I'm seeing right now.

That all said, it sounds like I'm in a minority so I guess maybe I'm just missing stuff.

duncan_idaho 11-10-2022 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16592778)
Nope, not really, but did you think he'd have zero sacks and what was it an 11% win rate outside of stunts? I remember how hyped we all were during preseason and if anyone says the numbers are where they were expecting I'd say they're lying.

I'd 100% agree he's been unlucky on a couple of occasions with other guys beating him to the sack. Also I dont know what his assignments are and what he's been asked to concentrate on, maybe he's doing exactly what's expected of him against the run.

I also completely get the argument he's getting there and it'll come, I'm still of that opinion. But I don't get what people have seen to this point and I dont buy that I'm the only person who expected a little more at this stage. I'm not arguing what he will become just what I'm seeing right now.

That all said, it sounds like I'm in a minority so I guess maybe I'm just missing stuff.

Are you under the impression an 11 percent pressure rate is BAD?

JPH83 11-10-2022 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16592971)
Are you under the impression an 11 percent pressure rate is BAD?
I read it as pass-rush win rate, not pressure. In which case, is it good?

htismaqe 11-10-2022 09:24 AM
Damn, there's some miserable ****ers on this board.

DJ's left nut 11-10-2022 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16592997)
I read it as pass-rush win rate, not pressure. In which case, is it good?
It's a good pressure rate and a sub-standard pass-rush win rate.

Remember that not all pass rush 'wins' result in pressures; the QB could break the pocket or the DL could get otherwise re-routed after 'winning' his rep.

RunKC 11-10-2022 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16593007)
It's a good pressure rate and a sub-standard pass-rush win rate.

Remember that not all pass rush 'wins' result in pressures; the QB could break the pocket or the DL could get otherwise re-routed after 'winning' his rep.
Also just bc a player has more sacks doesn’t mean he is pressuring the QB more.

Boye Mafe got an easy sack on a busted OL where they didn’t pick him up in time.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seahawks rookie DE Boye Mafe&#39;s second sack of the year. <a href="https://t.co/G4oXiqrDfh">pic.twitter.com/G4oXiqrDfh</a></p>&mdash; Third World Perspective (@thirdworldpod) <a href="https://twitter.com/thirdworldpod/status/1587698485234647041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He still has less pressures than Karlaftis.

JPH83 11-10-2022 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16593007)
It's a good pressure rate and a sub-standard pass-rush win rate.

Remember that not all pass rush 'wins' result in pressures; the QB could break the pocket or the DL could get otherwise re-routed after 'winning' his rep.
Exactly.

JPH83 11-10-2022 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593001)
Damn, there's some miserable ****ers on this board.
Depends if you believe thinking ONE draft pick has been a bit less impressive than expected and all the others are great is "miserable". There's also some people who just get weirdly angry at any question of their guy's performance.

htismaqe 11-10-2022 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16593033)
Depends if you believe thinking ONE draft pick has been a bit less impressive than expected and all the others are great is "miserable". There's also some people who just get weirdly angry at any question of their guy's performance.
I'm not talking about people that are underwhelmed. I'm talking about the people calling him a bust after 8 games. And it's not just Karlaftis, it's literally everybody we've draft over the last few years.

By reading this board, you'd think the Chiefs are awful at the draft.

scho63 11-10-2022 09:53 AM
Karlaftis will only improve. Stop with this silly shit.

Chenal needs more help. He has been average at best and missing lanes and tackles.

DJ's left nut 11-10-2022 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16593011)
Also just bc a player has more sacks doesn’t mean he is pressuring the QB more.

Boye Mafe got an easy sack on a busted OL where they didn’t pick him up in time.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seahawks rookie DE Boye Mafe&#39;s second sack of the year. <a href="https://t.co/G4oXiqrDfh">pic.twitter.com/G4oXiqrDfh</a></p>&mdash; Third World Perspective (@thirdworldpod) <a href="https://twitter.com/thirdworldpod/status/1587698485234647041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He still has less pressures than Karlaftis.
And on the flipside, pressures are probably the most fluid, objective, poorly understood stat out there. I saw Karlaftis credited with a pressure on what was almost certainly a screen pass recently.

Ultimately there just isn't a dispositive stat. You need to look at all of them in total. If a guy's getting a LOT more pressures than his contemporaries, that probably means something. If he's getting 3-4 more over a half season...eh, that probably doesn't mean much.

If a guys getting a ton of sacks but has a poor pass rush win rate (i.e. Dunlap last season) that doesn't bode terribly well for continued success and it means he's probably a matchup and/or coverage dependent player rather than a true difference maker. Whereas someone with fewer sacks but a better pass rush win rate is probably making more noise on a snap to snap basis but ultimately is likely to have some shortcoming in his game (for Karlaftis it's probably bend) that prevents him from finishing those plays.

You just need to be able/willing to view it all together to see how effective a player's really being. I think when you do that with Karlaftis you get a guy who's bee solid. A fine use of the pick. A double in the gap, so to speak. I'll take what we've been getting out of him and it demonstrates a solid foundation to build from.

scho63 11-10-2022 09:55 AM
It takes time for these guys to adjust to the speed of the pro game

Pepe Silvia 11-10-2022 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593001)
Damn, there's some miserable ****ers on this board.
Being miserable is a God given right.

htismaqe 11-10-2022 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16593082)
Being miserable is a God given right.
Acknowledging that such misery is pathetic is also a God-given right.

JPH83 11-10-2022 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593040)
I'm not talking about people that are underwhelmed. I'm talking about the people calling him a bust after 8 games. And it's not just Karlaftis, it's literally everybody we've draft over the last few years.

By reading this board, you'd think the Chiefs are awful at the draft.
Yeah fair enough. I reckon there's less of that but undoubtedly it's there. I just think for every miserable f**ker there's an insanely sensitive f**ker too.

DJ's left nut 11-10-2022 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16593082)
Being miserable is a God given right.
I got what you were doing there, bruv...

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A child of divorce who's dad had ghostbusters II on VHS - oh yeah, I can quote you line for line on that one...

htismaqe 11-10-2022 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16593098)
Yeah fair enough. I reckon there's less of that but undoubtedly it's there. I just think for every miserable f**ker there's an insanely sensitive f**ker too.
I don't disagree. This place can be pretty polarized at times.

Megatron96 11-10-2022 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16592997)
I read it as pass-rush win rate, not pressure. In which case, is it good?
According to ESPN, the top EDGE PRWR belongs to Micah Parsons, 32%. the 10th best was 23%, and the NFL average for starting EDGE IS 17%.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ms#prwrplayers

Someone posted a link for the rookie EDGE I think in the Frank Clark sux thread a few months ago, and the average was 10 or 12%? Maybe someone else can find that metric. What I remember is that it put George in the top-5 for rookie EDGE.

BWillie 11-10-2022 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16593033)
Depends if you believe thinking ONE draft pick has been a bit less impressive than expected and all the others are great is "miserable". There's also some people who just get weirdly angry at any question of their guy's performance.
Yep 100%. Constant sunshine pumping and getting pissed at anyone that questions anything does get annoying

htismaqe 11-10-2022 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16593152)
Yep 100%. Constant sunshine pumping and getting pissed at anyone that questions anything does get annoying
There's just as much doom and gloom here as there is homer stuff. It's all annoying. But such polarization is par for the course in our society.

htismaqe 11-10-2022 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16593152)
Yep 100%. Constant sunshine pumping and getting pissed at anyone that questions anything does get annoying
By the way, you outed yourself as one of those miserable ****s I was talking about.

I mean, everybody knew it already but congrats on making it official.

staylor26 11-10-2022 10:51 AM
Does the golden age of Chiefs football call more for "sunshine pumping" or doom and gloom?

BWillie 11-10-2022 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593157)
By the way, you outed yourself as one of those miserable ****s I was talking about.

I mean, everybody knew it already but congrats on making it official.
I'm not miserable at all. I value all opinions. That's why I'm here. Love hearing Chiefs takes that are different than my own. People caliling others name and being all uppity and bitching about others for having an opinion one way or the other is the annoyance.

duncan_idaho 11-10-2022 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16592997)
I read it as pass-rush win rate, not pressure. In which case, is it good?
My bad, I got them mixed up. DJ is right, not what you want for pass-rush win rates. But still the second-best mark in the rookie class.

Best thing I can find on his pressure rate is that it's around 9 percent. Which is average-ish.

I think it's reasonable to believe he's going to improve from those totals moving forward. Most pass rushers do, unless they're absolute freaks of nature whose physical traits are so good they instantly explode (ie Parsons).

JPH83 11-10-2022 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16593168)
Does the golden age of Chiefs football call more for "sunshine pumping" or doom and gloom?
Ha, it's a fair point. But like htismaqe says it's pretty nauseating either way right? There's a fair bit of doom and gloom and a fair bit of needlessly jumping down the throats of people who just disagree with you in the margins. It's odd.

JPH83 11-10-2022 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16593173)
My bad, I got them mixed up. DJ is right, not what you want for pass-rush win rates. But still the second-best mark in the rookie class.

Best thing I can find on his pressure rate is that it's around 9 percent. Which is average-ish.

I think it's reasonable to believe he's going to improve from those totals moving forward. Most pass rushers do, unless they're absolute freaks of nature whose physical traits are so good they instantly explode (ie Parsons).
All good, and yep, given he's smart and obviously hard working you've got to think the chance of improvement is very high.

-King- 11-10-2022 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593040)
I'm not talking about people that are underwhelmed. I'm talking about the people calling him a bust after 8 games. And it's not just Karlaftis, it's literally everybody we've draft over the last few years.

By reading this board, you'd think the Chiefs are awful at the draft.
I think the closest someone has gotten to calling him a bust is tribal warfare calling him a JAG.

staylor26 11-10-2022 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16593185)
I think the closest someone has gotten to calling him a bust is tribal warfare calling him a JAG.
BWillie implied that he's going to get 1 sack a year...

htismaqe 11-10-2022 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16593171)
I'm not miserable at all. I value all opinions. That's why I'm here. Love hearing Chiefs takes that are different than my own. People caliling others name and being all uppity and bitching about others for having an opinion one way or the other is the annoyance.
ROFL

I know better. Think about it.

htismaqe 11-10-2022 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16593176)
Ha, it's a fair point. But like htismaqe says it's pretty nauseating either way right? There's a fair bit of doom and gloom and a fair bit of needlessly jumping down the throats of people who just disagree with you in the margins. It's odd.
Exactly.

And for those people that are actually thoughtful and spend time backing up their opinions (like DJLN, for example) spend way too much time getting criticized by BOTH sides. Because occupying a rational, reasonable middle ground is viewed by too many people as being "soft" on your opinions or riding the fence.

htismaqe 11-10-2022 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16593185)
I think the closest someone has gotten to calling him a bust is tribal warfare calling him a JAG.
It's not just Karlaftis. People have called McDuffie injury prone, for example.

DJ's left nut 11-10-2022 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593273)
Exactly.

And for those people that are actually thoughtful and spend time backing up their opinions (like DJLN, for example) spend way too much time getting criticized by BOTH sides. Because occupying a rational, reasonable middle ground is viewed by too many people as being "soft" on your opinions or riding the fence.
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Pitt Gorilla 11-10-2022 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593276)
It's not just Karlaftis. People have called McDuffie injury prone, for example.
That was beyond ridiculous, though.

Pitt Gorilla 11-10-2022 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593153)
There's just as much doom and gloom here as there is homer stuff. It's all annoying. But such polarization is par for the course in our society.
On Skyy Moore:

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 16583800)
Complete and absolute bust

He’s maybe the 9th or 10th option on offense. Every other WR, every TE, and every RB are higher in the pecking order catching the ball than this worthless piece of trash.

NJChiefsFan 11-10-2022 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593273)
Exactly.

And for those people that are actually thoughtful and spend time backing up their opinions (like DJLN, for example) spend way too much time getting criticized by BOTH sides. Because occupying a rational, reasonable middle ground is viewed by too many people as being "soft" on your opinions or riding the fence.
All of this.

The other issue(at least if the poster wants their opinion valued) is that when you are extreme one way or another it's hard to take the opinion seriously. It's like when Collinsworth says a player is amazing. He says everyone is amazing so it stops having meaning.

I also chuckle when people then claim to have known what was going to happen when something they were negative about turned about to be correct. Well you are negative(or a homer) about everything so by law of averages you are going to be correct sometimes.

Titty Meat 11-10-2022 09:13 PM
I figured at some point some on the board would call him a bust. He will never have eye popping sack numbers maybe 8-10 a year. I thought he's done everything else pretty solid this year just like he always did at Purdue

Marcellus 11-10-2022 09:29 PM
You can quote stats all day long and they tell you a little. My eyes tell me dude is around the QB and football a lot.

Just needs to learn to finish more and he will.

Pitt Gorilla 11-11-2022 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16594419)
You can quote stats all day long and they tell you a little. My eyes tell me dude is around the QB and football a lot.

Just needs to learn to finish more and he will.
yup

Dante84 11-14-2022 11:08 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karlaftis led the team(Tied with Jones) with 4 QB pressures yesterday, he added 2 batted passes as well. He’s now up to 28 pressures and a league leading 5 batted passes through the first 9 games of his career.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/21q3DDnL37">pic.twitter.com/21q3DDnL37</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1592166377645035520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch 11-14-2022 11:26 AM
Water Polo paying off.

Gary Cooper 11-14-2022 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16603517)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karlaftis led the team(Tied with Jones) with 4 QB pressures yesterday, he added 2 batted passes as well. He’s now up to 28 pressures and a league leading 5 batted passes through the first 9 games of his career.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/21q3DDnL37">pic.twitter.com/21q3DDnL37</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1592166377645035520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It's all about the SACKS, baby.

Pitt Gorilla 11-14-2022 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16603517)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karlaftis led the team(Tied with Jones) with 4 QB pressures yesterday, he added 2 batted passes as well. He’s now up to 28 pressures and a league leading 5 batted passes through the first 9 games of his career.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/21q3DDnL37">pic.twitter.com/21q3DDnL37</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1592166377645035520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Karlaftis and Hutchinson are tied for most pressures among rookie defenders. Add that to the 5 batted passes, and he's been outstanding.

Coochie liquor 11-14-2022 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16604688)
Karlaftis and Hutchinson are tied for most pressures among rookie defenders. Add that to the 5 batted passes, and he's been outstanding.
Don’t summon the ghost of Blowmo to post a pff stat.

BossChief 11-14-2022 10:14 PM
Karlaftis is just as advertised.

If he had a Jared Allen across from him, he would have rookie Hali type sack production at this point. I feel like he’s going to have a breakout game in the next week or 2 and then start finishing plays after that.

He’s going to be a monster in the playoffs.

smithandrew051 11-14-2022 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16603556)
It's all about the SACKS, baby.
Speaking of which, the Chiefs ended last season with 31 total sacks.

We’re at 27 so far this year.

Dante84 11-15-2022 02:27 PM
Same stat, but from the NFL account


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">George Karlaftis has batted 5 passes this season<br><br>No one in the NFL has more <a href="https://t.co/K2LFQA8xYT">pic.twitter.com/K2LFQA8xYT</a></p>&mdash; NFL on CBS �� (@NFLonCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1592605623384174592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Megatron96 11-15-2022 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16604928)
Speaking of which, the Chiefs ended last season with 31 total sacks.

We’re at 27 so far this year.
In 2018, KC led the league in sacks with i believe 54 in the regular season.

For those that value piles of sacks, well we're on our way.

Tribal Warfare 11-15-2022 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16604924)
Karlaftis is just as advertised.

If he had a Jared Allen across from him, he would have rookie Hali type sack production at this point. I feel like he’s going to have a breakout game in the next week or 2 and then start finishing plays after that.

He’s going to be a monster in the playoffs.


So he's Justin Smith, because I've said want to be proven wrong but he may not for the JAGs but he's definitely playing like Just A Guy.

Easy 6 11-15-2022 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16603556)
It's all about the SACKS, baby.
That makes a great bumper sticker, but it doesn't tell the whole truth

He's hitting all the right milestones so far, a trajectory on course for a great rookie season... he'll get 6 regular season sacks, and numerous other batted balls and crucial pressures

Bowser 11-15-2022 05:03 PM
Remember that season when Eric Hicks has 14.5 sacks? Those were good times!

Right?

Megatron96 11-15-2022 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16606552)
So he's Justin Smith, because I've said want to be proven wrong but he may not for the JAGs but he's definitely playing like Just A Guy.
Nah, not really. JAG is the likes of kaindoh or KPass. Brandon Speaks.

George is already well past that level.

crispystl 11-15-2022 05:11 PM
*****The George Karlaftis Thread*****
 
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16593040)
I'm not talking about people that are underwhelmed. I'm talking about the people calling him a bust after 8 games. And it's not just Karlaftis, it's literally everybody we've draft over the last few years.

By reading this board, you'd think the Chiefs are awful at the draft.

Reading the game day threads you’d think we were a perennial 3-13 team lmao


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Megatron96 11-15-2022 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 16606626)
Reading the game day the easy you’d think we were a perennial 3-13 team lmao


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Lol, when KC is up by 20, and Butker misses one XP you'd think w just lost the AFCCG to HOU or something. GDTs are hilariously overly dramatic.

Bump 11-15-2022 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16606601)
Remember that season when Eric Hicks has 14.5 sacks? Those were good times!

Right?
Dan Williams had 10 one season too and got paid

raybec 4 11-15-2022 06:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16606609)
Nah, not really. JAG is the likes of kaindoh or KPass. Brandon Speaks.

George is already well past that level.
Breeland

Tribal Warfare 11-15-2022 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16606609)
Nah, not really. JAG is the likes of kaindoh or KPass. Brandon Speaks.

George is already well past that level.
He's right there with Kpassagnon/Allen Bailey blocked passes and almost getting there

Megatron96 11-15-2022 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16606769)
Breeland
Lol, autocorrect strikes again. Any time I try to type B and R together it decides to go with Brandon.:evil:

Good catch

Coochie liquor 11-15-2022 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16606784)
He's right there with Kpassagnon/Allen Bailey blocked passes and almost getting there
Bro. Stop!

TwistedChief 11-15-2022 08:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16606784)
He's right there with Kpassagnon/Allen Bailey blocked passes and almost getting there
Bailey played 102 games for the Chiefs and had 6 batted passes.

Karlaftis has played 9 games for the Chiefs and has 5 batted passes.

Excellent comp there on your part.

Tribal Warfare 11-15-2022 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16607029)
Bro. Stop!

Why? He's a roleplayer at best, he can't outmuscle most Tackles but doesn't get blown off necessarily. He has a very average 10 yard burst Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Allen, Carr all outran him to have decent gain or got the pass off for a completion during most of his pressures. If Karlaftis was a 4th round pick, he'd be a pleasant surprise but as a 1st round pick who suppose to help the passrush George's been disappointing.


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