I believe we still have them plus another Poles Pick in the 3rd.

Should get something for Austin Blythe

You forgot one: Remind everyone after the fact that you knew the Chiefs were going to another AFCCG all along.

So realistically any trades need to come from the 2023 stash.

This.

Ward looks like he'll net us a 4th, though maybe a 5th with the Jags !@#$ing up the scale.

No other significant losses thus far, though. Mathieu's not going to get enough term for us to end up with a massive return there. Probably another 5th or 6th.

Comp haul isn't going to be as beneficial as what we lost, that's for sure.

I think only something like the top 50 FA signings are factored into the comp picks formula.

Blythe won't qualify. He probably signed at/near the league minimum and will be easily offset by whatever we end up doing to fill out the rest of the roster.

- Trade CEH for a polished turd
- Scrub Mecole Hardman from the depth chart

And Ward

Ward leaving really sucks.

Good plan.

1/3 of an NFL roster actually under contract, just enough cap space for a Starbucks (but not a Venti; probably just a tall) - so lets go cut two cost-controlled dudes who contributed 1,200 yards and 8 scores to the offense last year.

ROFL Spot on.

Another question for DJ or any other cap guru...

Is there any downside as a player to restructuring your deal to free up cap space? Or is it all upside getting cash up front?

I’m kinda surprised we haven’t heard a peep about Pringle, Nnadi, only one team interested in Tyrann…Jaraan Reed all guys that can help teams.

Alright Ill be the one to say it...if ARob or Juju does not materialize would Julio on cheap contract be the worst thing in the world as a free agent giving up no draft capital?

God no. Just ****ing draft one if that’s your only option.

Wouldn't the Reid signing cancel out the comp pick that we would receive from Ward signing with the Niners?

For sure invest in WR in the draft as well.

Nope.

Well, I mean depending on what you're restructuring, I guess.

But 'base' to signing bonus, no. Not really. Because the franchise figure must be some percentage above your most recent salary but you wouldn't be restructuring as a pending FA (no additional years to bump it to) so there's no harm there. I guess if you were someone who might get tagged and you stuck void years on there and then bonused your base out into it, but you'd have to work pretty hard to **** yourself there.

Roster bonus to signing bonus? Boy, I can't think of any.

The only reason a player might not do something like that is if they intend to use it as leverage to exact an extension and the team doesn't bite. So rather than buckle, they stand firm.

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Mostly.

I don't believe they cut him so he'd factor against the calculus. The hope would be that ultimately Mathieu is who cancels out most, if not all, of Reid's deal. But if he ends up settling for second wave money, yeah - Reid will wipe out most of Ward.

So what's the holdup on guys they can rework like Hill/Kelce/Thuney?

I understand Mahomes can't get done until Friday.

Hill is going to get an extension.

Kelce and Thuney could have theirs done but it depends on if they want to deal with higher cap hits in the upcoming years.

First official day of NFL free agency and it’s the Royals who make the biggest name free agency signing among the local teams… didn’t see that coming.

Hmm.

I mean sorta.

Remember the rollover.

If it doesn't create any new money, there's never a reason NOT to do it. You just have to remember that you did it when you're factoring in your signings for this year and into the next.

Because if you owe Thuney $12 million this year and take steps to turn that into say $3 million with the remaining 9 spread out over the next 3 seasons, in the process you've also 'freed up' $9 million that then becomes rollover if unspent.

But yeah, it's buying on a credit card for sure. You'd better have a hell of a plan in place because if you spend that money off, that bill WILL come due the following year.

Good thing we got Burton re signed. There is a spree on fullbacks rn

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So you think Veach is just sitting on his hands with no plan??ROFLROFL

When has he ever done that?

At this point they aren’t going to be able to rollover a bunch of money to cover it. They need players. A bunch of them.

I trust bart velch.

Something is coming soon, and hard.

Dang. That'd be an interesting development if the Chiefs pulled that off on the cheap.

Y'know with someone like Thuney, maybe even Kelce - probably even Hill - it may just come down to cash spending.

You restructure Thuney's, Mahomes and Kelce's deal and you now have to write a check for everything you pushed off. You turn $9 million of Thuney's salary into signing bonus, Clark Hunt gets to write that check the moment the deal is signed. Hill comes up with a deal with $60 million in guarantees? Not only does Clark have to write a check for, say, a $20 million dollar signing bonus, he also has to escrow (I believe) 75% of the remaining guarantees, so you're looking at another $30 million dropped into escrow.

While you're also writing a $27 million check for Mahomes roster bonus AND potentially another $6 million or so to bonus out Kelce. All while the league is 'off' and not generating any revenue payments.

I mean Clark has money, but NOBODY enjoys writing $90-$100 million in checks.

Probably so, but it’ll be underwhelming.

A guy like Cordarrelle Patterson

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Patterson underwhelming wtf? He’s a star

They made sure my season ticket check cleared so they're generating something.

Those ****s.

I’m ready for it.

It’s going to be epic.

He's a 30+ one year wonder.

That they do.

Remember when folks kept squealing that the cap is a myth when we gave Clark his deal and insisted "Ah, a Jones contract will still be easy..."?

Fellas - the Cap isn't a myth. Never has been. You can ignore it for a year and often even for 2.

But the bill WILL come due.

This may honestly be the year to allow it. We don't know what any of these maneuvers will actually mean for the Chargers, Broncos or Raiders. They may still be far inferior to us. So why chase? Give it a minute to settle out, see where the division stands, hope you're still the top dog and then next year attack as needed.

There are just a lot of unknown variables right now.

But if that's the approach, we'd better be smart about it and if possible try to find some younger veterans we can get a little term on.

Awry? Or just a different plan than signing Za'Darius Smith, which I think we all thought was the plan for a good part of the week?

Maybe they're going to throw numbers at DE, with a couple of potentially ascending guys and a boring vet like Ingram. Maybe they're going to trade for someone. Maybe they're just that confident in the draft resources available?

"easy" plans tend to be expensive. Or at least obvious and easy.

LOL WUT

Seriously?!
Wtf do teams do this? Give someone younger a shot. Flacco was washed five damn years ago.


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Nobody enjoys a down year after four straight AFCCG's either.

I mean, he's going to have to write those checks eventually to field a team. We don't have any cap space without doing so.

LEADERSHIP!!!!

They have a 2nd year QB starting. Why would they want or need someone younger?

That’s why I would spend some money on guys that were depth on other teams but never had their shot to get legitimate snaps. See if they can help us out and then work on keeping the ones who do moving forward.

Sure. But with Kelce and Thuney, they're weekly game checks that start when the season does.

It's why most players don't push back when approached with the offer. I'll take that money in hand right now vs. waiting 3 months for my first installment of 1/17th of it, thank you...

Just as it has value for players - it has a cost for owners.

It takes some stones to be confident in the draft falling your way when you basically only have 4 picks that matter this year and they are all late in each round.

If the draft is the plan in regards to the DE position, then a trade up is inevitable.

Also, 4 picks “that matter”?

Every pick matters for a team, especially one that got Smith and Sneed the last two years on day 3.

We’re trading down. Gotta add a couple more picks to the middle rounds.

Has Veach ever even traded down?

A trade up is much more likely.

Raiders, oops I mean Patriots West quietly making moves

Weve hosted the last four AFCCG in Arrowhead in addition to several other playoff games. How much of that revenue goes in Clark's back pocket and how much goes to the league? Dont Super Bowl participants get an enormous payout as well? I have a hard time believing Clark is cash strapped. From a team franchise perspective things have never been better. Zero idea how his other business ventures are doing.

Hahahahahaha

Log off

You can't count on picks in the late 200's making an impact in the 1st year - or ever. Trey is an outlier, and also plays a position that is a hell of a lot more likely to make an earlier impact from the later rounds.

Late 200's typically get you a BoPete Keys. The last 7th rounder that's done anything for this team is Allegretti as a backup, then back to Succop, then back to Jarrad Page.

They have holes NOW. Four 7th round picks aren't filling those holes, nor are they any kind of capital to move much.

We should, but we won't.

This is the most underwhelming free agency ever

He’s a 4 time all pro, 3 time second team all pro. 4 time pro bowler and a member of the 2010s all decade team. That’s a ****ing star

The Chiefs have a 4th rounder as well, and nobody said anything about “counting” on day 3 picks, but to say they don’t matter is silly.

They don’t have to be Sneed or Smith either. Rashad Fenton is a 6th rounder that certainly mattered.

I thought we traded our 4th away - my mistake.

Regardless, we have essentially nothing behind pick 125-ish.

For a team with no cap space and several glaring holes, it's going to take every bit of magic Veach has.

Blythe got $4 million for one year.

As a ****ing kick returner.

GTFOH

I’m not going to call him a star, but I’d love to have his ability on this offense t year.

Crazy to think how long he’s been around. He was the guy Minnesota drafted to replace RANDY MOSS 1300 years ago.

He was very effective as a RB and WR last year for Atlanta. He actually would fit in our offense very well. If we were to get him and Juju under contract, it would open up this whole offense.

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He's had exactly one year of offensive production. Last year.

He's 30 and a one-year wonder. No thanks.

We don't need more gadget shit for Andy to **** with.

I like the Reid signing a lot. But I’m concerned our only addition isn’t really an addition since he’s replacing an all pro caliber player. And every other team in our division is getting better. Need to improve at receiver and pass rusher.

That’s a good fit for them. Rangy guy for not much cash

Probably waiting for whatever receivers we're targeting to make their decisions. Baalke going full reerun and giving Kirk that contract really ****ed the market.

Trey Smith, Elijah Mitchell, Kenneth Gainwell, Adetokunbo Ogundeji, Brandin Echols and Jonathan Cooper are the only guys taken past the in the 5th or later who really made a dent last year. Maybe Nate Hobbs? And some really nice long-term guys like Larry Borom.

If all 4 of those 7th rounders combine into a single guy who is as useful as Trey Smith it will be a miracle and frankly an extreme outlier. I believe our 6th went to the Steelers for Ingram and the pick we got from Baltimore in the Brown deal went to the Vikings for Hughes.

I woudl say we have 5 picks that are more relevant than merely attacking the UDFA pool would be. 1, 2, 3, 3 and 4 can all be expected to have better returns than just sifting through the UDFAs and doing a nice job with your scouting.

But the 7ths aren't even useful to move up. If we bundled all of them together we might be able to get into the back of the 6th. Then maybe we could take that 6th and move up maybe 6-8 spots in the 4th?

{shrug}

If they ain't useless, they're near enough as to make no difference.

Really good point. At least they got younger, and will likely get the same/similar production. HB seemed to either hit a wall or quit GAF this year.

Thank you, as always, for making my point much more eloquently than I'm able to.

Running it back and not winning that championship ****ed this team in the long run.

Drafting Clyde over Higgins sure did.

We probably beat the Bengals and go tot he Super Bowl with a real shot and don’t have a big hole at WR currently

Running it back is always the wrong decision.

Still cannot understand what compelled them to do that.

I thought he was implying that day 3 picks don’t matter when he said the Chiefs only have 4 picks that do.

Yea, 7th round picks obviously are mostly worthless, but that doesn’t mean that you can’t get lucky, especially with several chances.

So Mahomes could have someone else to stare at wide open and not throw the ball to?

I think we need to get past the AFCCG guys.

Nothing would've changed it apart from maybe a fire-breathing pass-rusher that could've made a momentum stopping play that turned things back around and let Mahomes un-**** himself.

The offense wasn't going to win that game. Mahomes melted down. He almost certainly won't do it again.

That game cannot be your barometer for what needs to be done with this team going forward.

I disagree. I think continuity goes a long way. This team should have been in the super bowl but it wasn't personnel that caused them to fall short

Getting a championship after 50 years and the thought that the same team could do it again.

{shrug}

I guess so.

But they simply don't factor into my calculus at all. As you are well aware - they just never have.

It's why I don't do mocks past the 5th round. It's why I rarely complain about picks made/not made past the 5th round.

They're just dart throws and to use O.City's analogy, you're not much closer to the board than you would be just using those same trainging camp slots to bring in a couple more UDFAs you liked. Or street free agents who signed futures deals for that matter.

I mean yeah, I'm fairly comfortable saying 'they don't matter' and rounding down here...