You played the packers Vikings and lions lol. Congratulations!

The Niners are a very young inexperienced team. This is the first time that most of their best young players have been in the postseason and it’s been easy for them.

This is Jimmy G’s first postseason and he has had it so easy that he only had to throw the ball 27 times in 2 games.

Meanwhile our team has been through hell and back from the Patriots heart break to being down double-digits and coming back in both playoff games.

Last year we saw what happened to Jared Goff when the Patriots made him lead that team in the big game. If we do that to Jimmy G I bet he struggles.

You played those same Packers and Vikings to get to the Super Bowl, LOL, congratulations!

Funny because as a 49er fan, I’m surprised the Chiefs aren’t favored by 7 with all the Mahomes praise.

If you’re judging fan base arrogance, your members on this board are second to none. Judging by your posters, the letdown will be MUCH more painful here if you lose. We’re not even supposed to be here!

But human psychology is fascinating.

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Uhh.....

Exactly dominate a division that has had elite Pass rushers consistently even with Alex Smith. Mack (Untill Recently) Miller, Bigger Boso, Ingram. Reid will have a plan to attack them and protecting Pat

Yeah, we're going to need to cull some of these 9ers trolls like we did with the Titans. Thread is basically unreadable.

From that piece I posted...

The unstoppable force

In asking a handful of people around the league who they believe will win Super Bowl LIV, what has surprised me—actually stunned me—is how many are confident the Chiefs will blow out the 49ers.

Three assistant coaches and two front office executives with whom B/R spoke all picked the Chiefs, big, and I don't think this belief is isolated.

What is so striking about that view is that I have seen few teams, in decades of covering this sport, more physical—and adaptable—than the 49ers. They are tough, but they are also malleable. They won 9-0 against Washington in a rainstorm and 48-46 on the fast track of the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans.

They can do anything and everything.

But there are good reasons to believe in Kansas City.

First, Andy Reid. It's difficult to put into words how much everyone in football respects Reid as a head coach. He's seen as coaching royalty. This is the second franchise (the first being the Eagles in the 2004 season) he's taken to a Super Bowl.

Second, quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

"There is no defense against Mahomes right now," one NFC assistant coach said. Not even the 49ers, argue the coaches and team execs. To them, no player—at any position—is playing better than Mahomes.

It's taken as an article of faith that team success in the NFL is based upon a franchise's coach and quarterback, and with Reid and Mahomes, the Chiefs have two the league feels are performing at the highest level.

And if the connection clicks again in two weeks, the Chiefs may fly home from Miami with their first championship in five decades.

They shit on their own sidewalks, of course they are going to shit in this thread.

You play who's on your ****ing schedule, you dimwit. This isn't ****ing college where you get to pick the schedule.

I don't see the 49ers getting as much pass-rush pressure as the Patriots did on our Chiefs. They're too soft/slow in the secondary to play press-man, which is what prevented Mahomes from getting the ball out quickly on a good number of plays against the Pats. And the Patriots play more games on their D-line to try and cause confusion pre-snap. They crowded the line of scrimmage with linebackers frequently to stress the oline's protection assignments. The Niners have a more talented front four than the Patriots, but they rely on their rushers just being better than the man in front of them more than the Pats do. Even still, this offense put together some really nice looking drives against that elite Pats defense - one ended in a Kelce fumble that made that game much closer than it should've been.

I really think our offense is going to be able to neutralize the Niners pass rush for the most part. They'll make some plays on us, but whether it's through an extra tight-end, a running back chip, or quick slants/screens, Andy's going to be able to scheme around this Niner pass rush easier than he was able to against the Pats.

Congratulations on your experience in losing! Everyone can make 'facts' work for them; You have 2 players that have been in a Super Bowl, the Niners have 6.

Pretty decent article.

I think he’s wrong to assume SF will blitz Mahomes. Why would they do that, at least early on, when their best chance to win is the possibility of getting to Patrick with 4 rushers?

Ooooo - 6! I guess we have no chance then.



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You are missing the point you ignorant cum dumpster

Enjoy the ass kicking next Sunday you piece of shit.

**** OFF! :D

Man.

We've been a team just like the 49'ers like a dozen or more times in the last 30 years.

Kudos to them-they got farther with that recipe than we ever did.

And I understand their fans being all cocky except for one thing:

You guys KNOW what great is. You've had it. Montana. Young.

Maybe you're just too young to remember.

What happens when a pretty good statistically, and oh, he's so underrated QB, and here we come with our fierce pass rush and our excellent running game...

What happens when you run into the best quarterback in football?

you lose.

And you're going to lose. And it's not going to be close. And you're all going to be holding your heads in your hands, wondering where it all went wrong. Second guessing everything.

You don't have the best player in football, that's all.

The only way the Chiefs lose this game is if they just **** it all away with stupid bullshit.

It could happen; we've seen it before.

But, no, not in the Super Bowl. Nope. Not going to happen.

Enjoy basking in the sweet sunshine of big dreams for another eleven days.

Are you counting Jimmy G as one of those six players?

What was his "Super Bowl experience" with the Faketriots, giving Brady mouth to mouth on the sideline?

The stats don't tell the story. JG has and will take shots down the field when he needs to. With the 49ers running game, he just hasn't had to in most games. Against the Saints, he had to and he came up big. The INT's tell you he takes more risks than AS, as does the Yards per completion.

Yawn.

that's cute.

He’s also good for a couple of stupid throws a game. Shanahan hasn’t asked him to do much since he threw that INT against the Vikings.

Hang on a second, man.

Weren’t you one of the guys shit talking about how good and powerful the NFC was yesterday?

Two of those 3 teams you’re laughing at were the #2 and #6 seed in your conference.

The Chiefs beat one of them (who beat the brakes off NFC #3 in the wild card round) with a QB who was teaching math and coaching football at a high school until Andy Reid called him up.

Your conference’s #2 seed eked out a victory against that same math teacher QB, needing a few vintage miracle plays from Rodgers to do so (including a TD on a play that I believe Next Gen Stats concluded had a 2 percent chance of success).

You should probably stop this line of reasoning.

Ma boy Christopher. This is definitely going to be a tough task for us to contain Mahomes. I really hope our pass rush can get to him. Would really hate got this guy to scramble around to the point where out Dline is gassed. Plus with those receivers y’all got with all that speed... that’s asking for trouble. This is going to require not only our amazing front 4 to get to Mahomes quick, but the rotational guys also have to step up. I really hope they activate Damontre Moore for this one.

Side note, what player do you think will be used to cover the best TE in the league Kittle??

You may be right, but for the wrong reasons. SF has come out in multiple games without running the ball at all on its first series. JG has had some big games, has a higher yards per completion avg. than Mahomes. SF can win by passing.... BUT, with a passing game, SF doesn't control the clock, and its defense ends up on the field too long. The front seven for SF is elite, but they are light and can wear down as the game goes on. Ball control by the offense allows the SF defense to be elite.

Finally something we can agree on- we do not have the best player in football. But we do have the best team.

Holy crap - Damontre Moore is still in the league?

I thought that kid was going to be a stud. Then he half-assed the combine and turned out to just kinda be lazy.

I thought he washed out years ago.

If San Fransisco can make Mahomes as uncomfortable as Seattle did last year, shit is going to get real. Fisher has to have the game if his life.

You know what you Niners fans might wanna do? I mean, really, if you're going to spend time trash talking on another team's message board.

I want you to go watch the last month of Chiefs games. It's just four games. You're wasting enough time here, just go ahead.

Too much homework? Ok. How about just the two play-off games.

How about that 51-7 run against Houston?

How about Derrick Henry getting 69 yards? Not only that, but look what that front four of OURS does all day to that big, mauling offensive line.

Watch Frank Clark. Watch Chris Jones. Watch Pennel. Watch Suggs. Watch Nnadi, and Saunders, and Kpassgnon.

Watch them against Deshaun Watson and Houston; and watch them against Tennessee.

And then tell me how you think you're going to put up anywhere near enough points to hang with Mahomes, and Hill, and Hardman, and Watkins, and Kelce, and Williams.

You're done, son.

We've been you before. We had a bunch of teams that built way. You had a good run, got further than we ever did with that recipe.

But it ends here.

I wouldn't defend the entire NFC, but I will say we have the best division in the NFC West.

When healthy, they have overwhelmed a lot of good OLs. That said, they are made for speed and outside of Buckner, are pretty light across the board. They can be worn down by a physical offensive line.

See the thing is....the best TE in football is Kelce and he’s on our team.

100% agree with this. Easily the most frustrating part of Jimmy G. He’ll definitely have those throws that’ll make you catch your head. Would’ve thrown more picks if so many potential picks weren’t dropped.

The way this game is going to be won by the 9ers is by getting constant pressure with 4, successfully running the ball and limiting what Garrapolo has to do.

There won't be a one on one matchup. That's not how we do things. Sometimes it'll be Honey Badger. Sometimes they'll bracket him with two players. Sometimes it will be a safety, sometimes a corner, sometimes a linebacker short and pass off to a safety, or a corner.

And it will be different from play to play, and they'll disguise what the coverage is right up to the snap.

Only knucklehead 49er fans see a blow out like that. Just look at the Packers NFC championship game...49ers controlled the first half, but GB slowly got themselves back into contention because the 49ers stayed conservative and GB started to move the ball with a screen / short yardage passing game. KC is better than GB.

Lol that should shut that bs down

I'm less worried about the perimeter of their pass rush than the interior. Mahomes has been masterful lately at stepping in away from the perimeter rush and extending the play. But if the 49ers get a push inside, it makes it a little harder.

Even so, he can still make those amazing plays to extend and then expose their secondary.

Noooo. Nope. No.

Yeah, I think it could be a fun shootout. Would be cool to see both teams in the 40’s. Heck of a lot more entertaining than last year’s Super Bowl. Lol

And this may also be what turns the game.

You can usually count on our DBs (specifically our safeties) to drop at least one interception/gm. Fuller overran one on Sunday because he didn't have his head up on a deflection at the goalline and then Sorensen had one just bounce of his hands.

Mathieu, for his reputation as a ballhawk, has some of the most inexplicable drops I've ever seen. He has at at least 3 complete gimmes go through his hands or off his chest this year.

If the Chiefs defensive backs give Garappolo a couple extra possessions by not simply catching some of the mistakes he'll make, that could be huge.

There certainly are a lot of fair weather fans (of every team), but the hardcore 49er fanbase is not that different than KC. The seat prices at Levi Stadium has weeded out a lot of hardcore fans, but they're still there.

I look for Kittle to be bracketed in situations where they expect him to run intermediate to deep routes... Mathieu can handle whichever receiver is in the slot for the most part. I think you have to take your chances with Sanders, Samuel, etc. when lined up outside and just make Jimmy beat you with tough throws.

We almost beat Green Bay with Matt ****ing Moore and Cam ****ing Erving playing left tackle.

It took a miracle throw from Rodgers to beat us.

Oh, and we didn't have Suggs, or Pennel, and I think Jones was injured.

False narrative. Kelce had a much better year than Kittle.

Post Season: In 2 games-Kittle has 4 catches for a measly 35 yards- pitiful. :rolleyes:

Kelce has been a record-setting beast!

That was Shanahan’s PTSD coming out from the Falcons/Patriots SB.

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You are right on both counts, but it tells you a bit about him. The great QBs take risks and occasionally they throw INTs, but the INT doesn't faze them and they keep coming back. Watch some SF games from this year. JG never looks fazed. Never gets down. He just keeps coming. I don't think he's "great" yet, but he has the demeanor of a great QB.

Regarding Shanahan's playcalling, why would you pass when you're running the ball down the throat of your opponent and they can't stop you? Neither the Vikings nor the Packers could stop the 49ers running game.

Not seeing the LB 10 yards in front of you isn’t “taking a risk”......it’s a stupid ****ing decision.

Lol go ahead and throw a pick against us and see how that works out for you!

We just beat the AFC version of the 49ers. I think we can handle those pillowbitergots.

49ers have a better defensive line and a different running style.

Oh buddy.

Did you watch Derrick Henry last week? Did you see his 8 yards in the second half while the game was still very much in question?

Did you see? I expect you WATCHED, but did you SEE?

You really think you're going to succeed where they failed?

You think Jimmy G is going to win a shootout with Patrick Mahomes?

oh kiddo. Just go home.

So we beat the Ravens, you LOST to them. Yeah we haven’t played anyone as good as the mighty 9ers, lmao!

Niners have much better playcalling as well. It’s gonna be a heck of a battle and I hope KC shows up ready to fight like hell.

First, fan and season ticket holder since the early 70s. I suspect I've watched multiples of the number of games you have.

Second, I think you're missing the context of my post. I was only addressing why JG threw so few passes in the last 2 games and stated the obvious -- if they can't stop it, you keep doing it. Even pop warner coaches know that. GB and Minn couldn't stop SF's running game. That doesn't mean (and I didn't say) that KC can't stop the running game. I watched some game film and you guys seem to have stout run blockers in the middle of the line. How are they against zone blocking? Shanahan is more about the one cut against the flow running. Is your line solid in setting the edge?

And no, I don't think JG wins a shootout with Mahomes. Mahomes is the best in the game right now. But the question is, can he do enough to win the game?

Mahomes has a higher yards per completion. Garoppolo has a slightly higher (1.2 percent) YPA.

And Ryan Tannehill has a higher YPA than either of them, by a huge margin (15 percent).

QBs that pass off a lot of play action and against boxes stacked to defend the run typically will have a higher YPA and YPC completion because they’re typically throwing in advantageous situations.

I think the game plan the Chiefs opened with against the Titans is telling; they came out prepared for the PA shots and didn’t give Tennessee a stacked box to try and exploit early.

The Titans made some nice plays on shorter routes to move the ball on their first 3 drives, but they never landed that demoralizing quick-strike bomb like they did early against the Ravens and Pats.

Shanahan’s creativity is worrisome. I’m sure he’ll look for creative ways to get some of those chunk pass plays early, with your FB or Kittle.

Kansas City has used Sherman at times like the 49ers use Juschek in the pas game, so the concept shouldn’t catch the Chiefs with their pants down. Still, it’s scary.

Can we not fall behind this game thanks

That and going to jail for stabbing fellow fans to death.

Good analysis.

The Titans run a zone scheme as well. They aren’t as creative or tricky as Shannahan, but their OL follow the same general principles. Almost all of Henry’s big runs this season came on one-cut zone runs where he caught a backside crease and powered through light contact into the open field.

Clark and Suggs have been excellent at setting and holding the edge. Clark will be lined up at LE most of the time now, with Suggs on board at RE.

Sadly, too true. Some of the fanbase was getting a bit dicey in the last few Candlestick years. Way too many fans were wasted before they even went into the stadium. You knew things were bad when it felt safer to go to a Raider game and sit in the black hole.

He was asked about that after the game and he said he saw the LB but didn't put enough air on the ball.

I think it was a dumb decision to try and squeeze it in. That's when the gunslinger attitude can get him in trouble.

He's not afraid to throw into tight coverage.

Shanahan also said it was a bad decision. Said they were in zone, and there were no routes to occupy the LB dropping, so he should've gone somewhere else with the football.

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I admittedly have not seen a lot of Titan games this year. I used to watch them a lot because my nephew coached at Oregon when Mariota played, but missed a good part of the season until Tannehill's run of success started to get more national notice. Henry seems to run a lot more between the tackles than the 49er runners do. But yes, he ran through a lot of light contact this year. Teams that have set the edge well on the 49ers have been more effective, but I will say that Mostert has been a real surprise. He seems to find running lanes where Coleman could not. His speed is almost Hill like and I think it catches defenses by surprise.

Special Teams, and generating turnovers in general will decide this thing

Pennel has been KC's most valuable addition to the run defense , Jesus it was like they resurrected the Chiefs D-Line circa 92-94.

You would think the 49ers would be able to finish that stadium if they charge so much for tickets.

Interesting take; If you look back to the Saints game, they would take the ball out of the end-zone 5+ yards deep and would consistently get past the 25. They saw something lacking in kickoff coverage. Not many teams have tried that since that game, most just kneeling when in the end zone. This could play a factor.

I also think the element of surprise will play a big factor, the Niners have not put much of anything on tape in the playoffs of the last few weeks of the season. Shanahan has a lot of tricks up his sleeve, expect it.

Your defense had zero sacks in that game too.

What makes you think it is not finished? They're not going to do anything more, which unfortunately sucks as my seats are on the sunny side....and you bake in the later summer heat. They claim to be unable to erect any cover or shade because the stadium is in the path of the San Jose airport.

BTW, apart from the unbearable summer heat, the stadium is pretty nice, with large concourses, good views from most seats, nice concessions, good wifi access.

If i only listen to the media slurping about this niners front four, I would assume the game is going to end up like SB50 .

Truth be told, the 49ers' d-line is far more effective when Ford is healthy and playing. Ford missed a lot of games down the stretch. After 11/17, he didn't play until the first round of the playoffs.

Here are the DVOA offensive efficiency numbers, last updated 12/30/2019, sorted by rushing offense. Surprisingly, KC is just behind SF in rushing efficiency during the regular season.

Tennessee had a stronger running attack than SF during the regular season, and the Chiefs just shut it down.

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You can run right at Ford... poor run defender...

Found out today that we actually have less points allowed than their “all time great” defense. Crazy stat to me.

Hey, gangbangyourmom, we totally agree. I respect Shanahan. Great football mind. And tricky. I also respect your QB, and D line. All things said, I expect a great game. And just like you, I expect my team to win.

How did you not know that? I thought everyone knew that

Our Super Bowl appearance has already been a learning experience for me.

I had no idea that the gays knew this much about football.