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I don't mind at-will employment. I'm not in favor of targeted protections. Carano being let go was entirely within Disney's purview. My main beef here is getting society to react appropriately without the messaging turning it into something it wasn't. |
Can we move this shit to the DC?
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If you want to talk about the political aspect of this, go create a thread in the DC cesspool and cry about it there.
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OK, I don't want this to become DC, so I'll limit myself to one post here spoilered anything that could be DC.
Here's my position. This one took me a minute. Caveat: I didn't bother to look up the tweets. When I saw some were deleted, I didn't figure I'd get the whole story anyway.
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And hypocrisy abound, we all know that. Hypocrisy everywhere. It's bullshit and it sucks. HOWEVER
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Moreover, it's dumb to get loud on anything controversial. It was dumb for Carano to do it about what she did, and it's also dumb for Pascal to do it too, even though he got away with it. It's still ****ing risky and stupid. It's stupid for Holywood types to do it, no different than it is for me to do it with potential or current landlords, suppliers, customers, whatever. It's stupid and Carano got burned. tl;dr (or in this case, too long; didn't DC) I agree at least to some extent agree with her message, but it's stupid of her to do it and I support Disney's right to shitcan her. |
imagine 20 years ago, and how companies employed many dumbasses with dumbass beliefs, etc..........
......and they had no idea........and people kept their jobs. |
I don’t care what your beliefs are, don’t let them bleed into the final product and I’m good to go.
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This is what I've been told in the past 18 hours since the decision was made:
Disney contacted UTA, Carano's talent agency, more than a dozen times in the past calendar year to ask her to refrain from posting inflammatory comments on social media. She refused. She continued to post inflammatory comments after the election but this time, Dave Filoni contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused. Finally, Jon Favreau contacted her and asked her to refrain and again, she refused. Disney felt they had no choice but to fire her, as did her talent agency. Disney isn't going to "die on the hill" of a D-list actress. All she had to do to keep her job was to refrain from posting on social media and all would have been fine. |
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That's wild she'd set fire to her career like that. I guess the other side is she had the stones to stand up for what she believes. Just not the course I'd have chosen. Thanks for posting. EDIT: Disney gave her far more rope than Buehler445 would have. |
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Disney didn't like the feedback from customers, but the customers being out of pocket is the problem. The same as those complaining to the FCC in the past about the promiscuity and blaspheming on the airwaves in the past. |
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As for her acting, I thought she was better in Season 1 than Season 2 but Lucasfilm apparently liked her character enough to make her central character in an upcoming Disney+ Star Wars series (Rangers of the New Republic). I have no information about their plan to replace her but IMO, her character arc on The Mandalorian was completed in Season 2, as the series is changing direction in Season 3. |
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I think it's pretty fair to speculate that Favreau is one of the more conservative directors in Hollywood. Iron Man 2 is basically a celebration of the Reagan legacy and the entirety of that movie is a critique on government intervention.
Anywho -- she had the dream gig set up with one of the most iconic franchises in film history as it was launching again (with a showrunner who absolutely believed in her). Seems like she could have taken a page from Shuri's actress and just deleted her social media. But that just does not seem possible for some. |
For those of you who didn't know, she showed up in Deadpool as one of the bad guys. She was the one when her tit flopped out that Colossus stopped fighting and covered his eyes and let her cover it back up.
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I guess it was ok for Pedro Pascal to compare Trump supporters to Nazi's :rolleyes:
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The double standard is beyond blatant. |
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You know, maybe she was just tired of working with a bunch of liberal asshats and simply committed job suicide by tweet to get away from them. In fact, that seems damned likely. |
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My life is pretty far removed from their life. And that’s good for me. LOL |
Someone else just told me that Disney had planned to announce Carano as the lead role in the new Disney+ Star Wars series Rangers of the New Republic at the Investor's Meeting in December, in which 10 new Star Wars and multiple Marvel series were announced.
But since Carano continued to post inflammatory posts on Parler, they held off in order to ask her, once again, to refrain from posting inflammatory remarks. Last night's Tweet was the straw that broke the camel's back. |
I havent been following any of this Carino stuff....
But IMO she was the weakest part of the show and shes not a very good actress. |
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Not sure I'll even notice she's gone, tbh. Such a minor role.
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Gina Carano Rehired By Disney After She Identifies As An Abusive Male Director
BURBANK, CA—Disney has apologized to Gina Carano and rehired her after she announced today that she identifies as a problematic, abusive, toxic male director. "I'm not a Republican actress -- I'm actually a toxic, abusive, gaslighting director of many popular shows and films over the years," Carano said. "I am finally ready to come out of the closet and live my truth." Disney's response was immediate, as the company profusely apologized and hired her back. "We are so sorry to Ms. Carano for firing her -- we did not realize she was actually a sexually abusive male director trapped in a woman's body," said a Disney spokesperson. "We applaud her for coming to terms with her true identity and choosing to live her brave new life as a studio executive who does problematic things to women all the time without any repercussions." Immediately after the announcement, she was rehired and put in charge of the entire Marvel franchise. https://babylonbee.com/news/gina-car...-male-director |
I don't think we need bullshit parody articles posted on here, but whatever.
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Freedom of speech....right up until you piss off the woke mob. Then it's derogatory, inflammatory, racist, mean, etc etc etc......
But, that said, if she was fully aware of her employer repeatedly asking her to stop what she's doing and chooses not to stop what she's doing....well...... Disney firing her can be viewed as insubordination on her part, but her talent agency? They just don't want to be hunted down by the online woke mob, which is some weak bullshit imo. |
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Disney+ broke more of their own records last year and as of December, had 95 million customers, a number that far exceeded the 60 million subs that were projected for 2023. As I stated earlier, Disney wasn't going to die on that hill. |
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News flash: Those other clients are pretty much part of the mob. They’re all part of the same woke cult. |
As a personal comment and not something that's been necessarily shared with me, I'll never understand why people put their careers in jeopardy over social media.
I mean, most of us who aren't related to actors, directors, producers, composers, et al, have to scratch, fight and kick just to even get noticed, let alone, make it to the "Top of the Mountain" of the entertainment industry. I've mentioned that I had an offer to score a series for Disney a few years back and holy shit, if Disney asked me to stop posting on social media or lose my job, I would cancel my social media accounts immediately, which is something that I did back in 2017 anyway, as I saw the corrosive effects on other people in the industry. God Bless her and all but for the life of me, I just don't get it. |
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Here we go. Dane knows everything about Hollywood and anybody who questions him on any subject involving Hollywood is wrong. I don’t need to “know how Hollywood works” to know that Hollywood is full of woke cult members. You don’t have to be an expert to be aware of this. Why don’t they want to be “associated with her” Dane? It has nothing to do with her political views opposing theirs, right? |
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I've lived and worked in Hollywood since 1993, at Paramount Pictures and Universal. All of my neighbors are actors, directors and producers, some of which are Oscar winners. I have several friends that are big time agents as well. You have absolutely zero knowledge of the inner workings of this business. Zero. Zip. Nada. |
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Why don’t they want to be “associated with her” Dane? It has nothing to do with her political views opposing theirs, right? Get the **** over yourself dude. |
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You said they don’t want to be associated with her. Why not? |
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But hey, thanks for ****ing up a great thread about a great Star Wars TV show. |
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You’re no better than the woke mob. You make excuses and defend this shit every single time. Unless it’s Colin Kaepernick of course. Then a Cuban like myself isn’t even allowed to have anything to say about him wearing a Castro shirt while defending the evil dictator that tried to have my grandfather killed. |
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She was fired because she decided that posting on social media was more important than her career. Period, end of story. |
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I understand that she wouldn’t stop when they asked and she’s an idiot for that. It’s not the point. Where does the pressure come from to fire her in the first place? |
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If you have a problem with UTA and Disney's decision to fire her, take it up with them. |
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Now you’re playing stupid to avoid proving my point. There’s been mounting pressure to fire her for a while because of her political views/posts. This isn’t remotely random or out of nowhere, and you could see it coming from a mile away if you’ve been paying attention. It was just a matter of time. Have a good night Mr. Hollywood! |
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The issue I have is this is yet another example of the double standard. Pedro Pascal literally did the same thing (Nazi Germany comparison) while also spreading misinformation, but since he’s on the Left it’s totally fine. My issue is only with the clear double standard that is on display every single day. It’s not right, and it’s something reasonable people should be able to agree on. |
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I had a job in which I was pretty disenfranchised, and frankly, pretty angry. Then along comes this **** that drove pretty much everybody in the office crazy. She would go off and do infuriating shit and I needed a release. The gal in the cube next to mine and I emailed some pretty horrible shit about that ****. It was stupid. IT archives everything, they could have hit all the filters. It was dumb but I needed to say something to somebody. I can see her being driven crazy by people in Hollywood and need to get something out. What she did was intergalactically stupid. What I did was a considerable degree less stupid but on some level I did the same shit. Or she might just not want to do it anymore and took a blowtorch to it. |
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This story is political no matter how in denial you are that it’s not. Also, I wasn’t trying to “insult” you. I just think it’s hilarious how you react to anybody that dares to question you in this section. |
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We all deal with a certain amount of horseshit in our jobs and I am certainly no exception. There have been times when I've wanted to quit a gig because the Music Supervisor or Director is a flaming asshat but it's a very small town and news travels fast, so I put my head down, shut my mouth and plow through it. My worst day working in the entertainment business is a million times better than working in a warehouse or doing AP/AR for a small business in which the owner was a complete and utter cheating asshole (on his wife, too) or blech, selling guitars at the Hollywood Guitar Center. She was on top of the world, man. A Star Wars series in which she was to be a central character? Does it really get any better than that? Quote:
You're right, this was an intergalactically stupid decision on her part. Before today, I thought the dumbest decision by an actor this millennia was Terrence Howard's decision to demand a raise from Marvel to appear in Iron Man 2, which is why he was replaced by Don Cheadle. Cheadle's not only appeared in nearly a dozen Marvel films as Rhodie, he's also getting his own Disney+ series. But IMO, we have a new champion. |
The fact most celebrities haven't adopted a policy of don't ask, don't tell when it comes to their politics/religious beliefs is baffling to me.
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Why tempt fate and risk your Golden Ticket, as Sure-Oz said? The problem is that she shouldn't have to be silent... Hollywood orthodoxy sure as hell doesn't hold it's tongue for fear of offending anyone Hollywood becomes less relevant to my life by the day, candyass elitists not worth supporting |
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The other thing to note is I was 24 and fairly unrefined. She’s in her upper 30s and I’m sure has seen a lot more stuff than I did at 24. |
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You guaranteed have more posts in the DC than I do, and you are apparently on medication as well. ****ing weirdo loser. |
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I know he's fake, CGI, but I still cringed. |
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What happened here? https://images.7news.com.au/publicat...y=sevennews_v2 |
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You say something publicly that I don’t like, I can complain to your employer. Your employer makes a free enterprise decision based on its own selfish interests, are you worth more to the company than the bad publicity. I personally put no value in what a celebrity, athlete thinks on global warming or gun rights etc. but as a general and 1st rule........ when equating one issue with another, just leave Nazis and the Holocaust comparisons alone. |
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