The whole bit about saving the animals and sticking it to the 1%'ers though just felt like they went out of their way to force some ideology or another. It felt like a commercial to me. Like all of a sudden Sarah McLaughlin was going to ask me to donate $100 in an effort to stop animal cruelty.

Should have been said right after Luke survived an all-out barrage from an entire garrison of Walkers. LMAO I was actually thinking he was there in the flesh when that happened and it was amazing.

Granted, it's a little weak, but not completely implausible. They do send out tie fighters (hence leia getting sucked out into space), but then are recalled when they are beyond the support of the larger ships. Why not wait for the fleet to simply run out of fuel (which I never even knew was a thing in Star Wars btw) and pick them off? Always with the dark side is an under-estimation of the resistance. They figured they had the thing won. It's thin, but it holds up.

To go with this, I wonder why at no point in any space battle did any star destroyer maneuver into position to stop the bombers, the fleet anything. they all just sat there like a lump on a log and let the big dreadnoughts do everything.

I actually thought something like this was afloat early on. His beard was suddenly not grey and it was trimmed. I thought it was odd that he would take the time to add a little Grecian formula before coming to the aid of the resistance. :) Then I knew for sure when he whipped out the lightsaber that had just been torn in two between Rey and Ren.

no idea if you can hyperspace that close of a distance. We've never seen something like that - but that obviously doesn't mean it can't be done. And I hear you on the FO not caring if the ties make it back... like I said, it's thin but it isn't implausible either. If you are of the opinion that victory is inevitable, someone like Hux, while acting annoyed, might prefer to let it play out slowly. No fun watching victory from way off in the distance when there is absolutely nothing to suggest that seeing it up close and personal poses any kind of risk.

Was Snoke just a complete red herring? Because other than being a guy at the academy who pushed Kylo to the dark side, and a generic evil bad guy leader, he now seems completely unimportant.

He's like a discount Emperor who's backstory is pretty meaningless at this point.

It's either that or JJ had some grand design for him and Rian convinced the Lucasfilm/Disney brass it would serve the story better if he were offed.

I'll admit to being a little disappointed that the most powerful force user in the galaxy isn't going to have a big deus ex machina showdown with someone now. I really liked him when he was on screen.

What I actually wanted to happen was the force vampire thing to be partially true, but that he needed a being of immense/comparative power to fully regenerate, and that is why he wanted to find Skywalker so badly. Luke was going to be captured at the end of this one, setting up IX, where our heroes have to rescue The Last Jedi before Snoke can regenerate fully.

Snoke was the McGuffin.

He was killed by Kylo Ren and takes his place as the Supreme Leader of the First Order. With no Republic and less than 20 Resistance fighters, all of whom fit inside the Millennium Falcon, Kylo Ren achieved what Darth Vader could not: Ruler of the Galaxy.

What needs to happen in Episode IX is that either Kylo Ren, once again, destroys the Jedi Order led by Rey, or Rey destroys Kylo Ren.

There can be no redemption for Kylo Ren.

Really really feel bad for Mark Hamill . He had to lose a good amount of weight and got in better shape for that?! I was expecting him to fight a bunch more in this. Really stupid.

Also , Del Toro did next to nothing in this . God damn it.

and last but not least , that had to be the cheesiest Star Wars ending I've ever come across.:rolleyes:

You wanted Luke to **** shit up and it didn't happen

Didn't learn the backstory on Snoke

Didn't like or didn't learn who Rey's parents are/were

Did you notice at the end that Rey stole the entire set of Journal of the Whills and has them stored in a drawer on the Falcon?

Luke and Yoda were unaware that she took them

yes... I'm going to re-see it tomorrow, but I thought that's what I saw. I wonder if that's why yoda was so flippant in torching the tree. No harm no foul.

Leia floating in the cold darkness of space to safety, Astral Projection and Yoda's ability to interact with the physical world come to mind.

Yoda's interaction in the physical world was just plain stupid.

He's dead. Or he's not. Which is it? And if he's not dead, where has he been for the last 30+ years?

It was dumb AF.

And Leia? Good grief.

Leia, who never used the Force, could create some type of Force Bubble in space and how Yoda could interact in the physical world.

Silly

Is it that hard to believe that Yoda could produce a single crack of lightning through the living force, which he is now a PART of?

Come on. It was fun. Relax and enjoy how fun Yoda was in that scene.

And you don't think, in the 30 years since Jedi, she learned how to give herself a little force push in zero gravity?

C'mon. It was beautiful.

We got to see Princess Leia...who obviously has some genetic ability to use the Force...use the Force. For the first time...ever. I gasped. I teared up.

And the scene was executed gracefully and beautifully. Just like the character. There was no goofy ass force jumps or anything. She didn't force choke Poe.

I've been reading about Leia using the force in books and comics for decades. And suddenly, out of nowhere, it was happening in a movie, in a total believable way.

As a Star Wars fan, that was just plain cool. It was fun!!!!

I initially winced during this scene, but after thinking about it more... Leia comes from a pretty distinguished family of force users and was told by luke many years ago, that she possesses the same power that he does. Is it too big a leap to think that she learned how to nudge objects around using the force in the 30 years since he said that to her?

Right, we've never seen Astral Projection before but we also know Luke has been hermiting himself away digging into a bunch of dark lore etc. etc. Is it too big a stretch to think he discovered this ability over that period of time?

Yoda is the most powerful Jedi of all time, no telling what he can/can't do. But I admit, I did wince at that part too.

astral projection or interaction with the physical world once a force ghost

stood in the middle of a barrage of Walker fire and emerged unscathed.

literally trolled his nephew about, and he's going to troll him in the next film.

Leia wouldn't need to make a force bubble, she'd just need to nudge herself in a zero gravity environment back to the ship. Even the little kid with no training, no Darth Vader for a father, no Luke Skywalker for a brother, and no Kylo Ren for a son can nudge a broom even when the said broom is being acted upon by gravity.

Yoda was a puppet in this movie.

The throne room battle was amazing. Rey and Ben mowing down Snoke's Praetorian Guard was bad ass. I liked the conversation they had after the battle, with both struggling the pull of the other side of the Force.