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NewChief 04-07-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11422931)
Oh man, Alison Brie is on this show? IN.

Her character is awful.

The Franchise 04-07-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11421365)
Completed both seasons of Orange is the New Black...one of the best shows I've ever watched. So many great characters.

Gonna try and watch Mad Men now. First two episodes are a little boring though. The misogyny is a fun thing, however. :)

The wife and I started watching Orange. Pretty good.

ThaVirus 04-08-2015 01:13 PM

Re-watched The Last Samurai for the first time in about 10 years. Such a great movie from the plot to the setting to the acting.

I've never found Tom Cruise to be particularly endearing but I have to admit he makes great movies.

Hammock Parties 04-08-2015 01:16 PM

Yeah, hooked on Mad Men now. LMAO

Draper is great, but Roger Sterling is ****ing hilarious, too.

And yeah, Brie's character is such a ****. Ugh. I feel bad for the sap that married her.

Hammock Parties 04-08-2015 01:25 PM

Draper's character is really interesting. He's clearly a huge ****ing asshole...but in a strange way he's also the best human being on the show (among the men, anyway).

Of course, I'm only five episodes in. He could murder someone or something. I actually thought he was going to off his brother.

NewChief 04-08-2015 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11425341)
Yeah, hooked on Mad Men now. LMAO

Draper is great, but Roger Sterling is ****ing hilarious, too.

And yeah, Brie's character is such a ****. Ugh. I feel bad for the sap that married her.

That characters are all pretty awesome on it. And the cast of awesome characters just grows.

Baby Lee 04-08-2015 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11425342)
Draper's character is really interesting. He's clearly a huge ****ing asshole...but in a strange way he's also the best human being on the show (among the men, anyway).

Of course, I'm only five episodes in. He could murder someone or something. I actually thought he was going to off his brother.

Keep watching.

Baby Lee 04-08-2015 02:38 PM

It appears clear at this point that Claynus never watched Angel.

http://www.scifistore.com/ebay/defiant/1102050064.jpg

Vincent Kartheiser's shaved 'receding hairline is one of the best in-jokes of the series.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1719651/th...IRLINE-570.jpg

Buehler445 04-08-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11425341)
Yeah, hooked on Mad Men now. LMAO

Draper is great, but Roger Sterling is ****ing hilarious, too.

And yeah, Brie's character is such a ****. Ugh. I feel bad for the sap that married her.

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11425342)
Draper's character is really interesting. He's clearly a huge ****ing asshole...but in a strange way he's also the best human being on the show (among the men, anyway).

Of course, I'm only five episodes in. He could murder someone or something. I actually thought he was going to off his brother.

Keep watching. Brie's character gets a lot more in depth. All of them do really. But don't be feeling for her hubby just yet.

Hammock Parties 04-08-2015 02:44 PM

Vincent Kartheiser's character is one of the most annoying people I've ever seen on television. I'm pretty sure he deserves his **** wife.

Buehler445 04-08-2015 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11425338)
Re-watched The Last Samurai for the first time in about 10 years. Such a great movie from the plot to the setting to the acting.

I've never found Tom Cruise to be particularly endearing but I have to admit he makes great movies.

I enjoy the **** out of that show. I have no idea how true it is but it is pretty powerful shit and the battles rule.

ThaVirus 04-08-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11425479)
I enjoy the **** out of that show. I have no idea how true it is but it is pretty powerful shit and the battles rule.


I won't pretend to know but I'm not going to go around quoting a Hollywood flick that casts a white dude as "the last samurai".

Still enjoyable though.

Coochie liquor 04-09-2015 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11425635)
I won't pretend to know but I'm not going to go around quoting a Hollywood flick that casts a white dude as "the last samurai".

Still enjoyable though.

That's not a white dude, that's Tom Cruise.

Buehler445 04-09-2015 09:55 PM

I caught the 300 sequel. It was pretty bad. The over the top shit and unbelievable fighting nonsense is far worse than 300.

But it is decent for a turn your mind off action flick.

And Eva Green's tits. Man. World ****ing class.

mikeyis4dcats. 04-10-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11425635)
I won't pretend to know but I'm not going to go around quoting a Hollywood flick that casts a white dude as "the last samurai".

Still enjoyable though.

there were caucasian samurai. Not many, but they existed.

ThaVirus 04-10-2015 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11428730)
there were caucasian samurai. Not many, but they existed.


I wouldn't doubt it. It's still bullshit though.

I watched about 30 minutes of that Exodus: Gods and Kings shithole the other day. Most of the random servants/workers were brown people but the main actors were all white. Ramses? ****ing Australian. Ramses mom? Sigourney ****ing Weaver.

I also get annoyed anytime I see a depiction of a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Jesus.

Just fraudulent to the core.

Hammock Parties 04-10-2015 10:53 PM

lol @ peggy getting fatter

Buehler445 04-10-2015 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11430059)
lol @ peggy getting fatter

What?

Hammock Parties 04-10-2015 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11430062)
What?

bitch chunk as hell

https://tvculturesgd.files.wordpress.../peggy_640.jpg

Miles 04-10-2015 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11425635)
I won't pretend to know but I'm not going to go around quoting a Hollywood flick that casts a white dude as "the last samurai".

Still enjoyable though.

Need to watch that again since I enjoyed it but remember it wasn't really the Cruise character that was really the "Last Samurai"

ThaVirus 04-11-2015 12:03 AM

*The NEW Movies Thread*
 
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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 11430347)
Need to watch that again since I enjoyed it but remember it wasn't really the Cruise character that was really the "Last Samurai"


That's open for interpretation, I guess.

Since the word samurai is singular and plural form, it could be talking about the last of all samurai, referencing Katsumoto himself, or maybe Cruise. Who cares. It's still bullshit.

Buehler445 04-11-2015 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11430059)
lol @ peggy getting fatter

Random mad man comment. Got it.

You'll figure out why soon enough.

Rausch 04-11-2015 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11430401)
Who cares. It's still bullshit.

Valid because random white man saved the day...

Rausch 04-11-2015 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11430494)
Random mad man comment. Got it.

You'll figure out why soon enough.

I've hated her character all through the series.

She is clearly the woman's lib-rah-rah character but they should have made her more likable.

I'm a princess-I'm a whore-I'm intelligent- I'm powerful-I'm able to hang drinking with you. I just feel like she didn't convey what they were clearly going for as the opposite of Draper.

It sounds like every reason why men hate psychotic women. It negates the gains they wanted to give her character and while we're supposed to cheer for her (as the underdog) I just don't care.

This is a show about how men ruled the world and held women to a much lower stature and her character found a way to make me not care despite how much it was in my face...

Hammock Parties 04-11-2015 02:46 PM

In.

http://i.imgur.com/XeOWgua.jpg

ThaVirus 04-11-2015 03:42 PM

VHS: Viral was a pile of shit

Fish 04-12-2015 11:07 AM

Watched The Voices the other day, with Ryan Reynolds playing a psychotic. Man, what a twisted movie. Nothing phenomenal or anything, but it was weird and cool and entertaining. Wrapped up in a nice WTF bow tie ending.

<iframe width="854" height="510" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3hQpV9Q0A7E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rausch 04-13-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 11432163)
Watched The Voices the other day, with Ryan Reynolds playing a psychotic. Man, what a twisted movie. Nothing phenomenal or anything, but it was weird and cool and entertaining. Wrapped up in a nice WTF bow tie ending.

<iframe width="854" height="510" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3hQpV9Q0A7E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

If I get to see him slowly kill Anna Kendrick it will be worth my time.

3.5 stars minimum...

Ceej 04-14-2015 08:04 AM

Just watched the official trailer of San Andreas.

Looks bad ass!

Baby Lee 04-23-2015 04:24 AM

This looks intriguing

<iframe width="636" height="353" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hEcB7T-C0g8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Buehler445 04-23-2015 07:03 AM

Saw a trailer for it. Looks pretty damn good. Better than that crap Depp was in.

And yes. I'd hit that robot.

Fire Me Boy! 04-25-2015 08:20 AM

*The NEW Movies Thread*
 
The Voices. Ryan Reynolds, Gemma Arterton, Anna Kendrick. Dark, dark comedy, and totally hilarious.

Ceej 04-25-2015 09:53 AM

Big Hero 6 and St. Vincent were both great.

Rausch 04-28-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11458548)
The Voices. Ryan Reynolds, Gemma Arterton, Anna Kendrick. Dark, dark comedy, and totally hilarious.

Yeah, it had some funny moments but...it was easily the most depressing comedy I've ever watched.

Those words shouldn't even be said.

NewChief 04-30-2015 09:31 PM

I bitched about the trailer for the Kingsmen a while back saying it looked over the top and ridiculous. Well... It was. It was also ****ing awesome. Loved it.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2015 09:41 PM

Ex Machina...really well executed. GREAT performance from Oscar Isaac. He's gonna have a great career, can't wait to see him in Star Wars.

The movie...slightly predictable but just really well done. Haunting. Creepy in a unique way. Loved it.

Rausch 05-01-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11470845)
Ex Machina...really well executed. GREAT performance from Oscar Isaac. He's gonna have a great career, can't wait to see him in Star Wars.

The movie...slightly predictable but just really well done. Haunting. Creepy in a unique way. Loved it.

Good. I've considered watching it a number of times but kept passing it up.

Hammock Parties 05-01-2015 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11472411)
Good. I've considered watching it a number of times but kept passing it up.

Um...it just came out.

Rausch 05-01-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11472511)
Um...it just came out.

Internets.

Also watched the first 10 mins of A2. Stopped after the opening action scene...

Ceej 05-01-2015 10:57 PM

The Gambler was really good. Even though the ending was pretty obv.

Fire Me Boy! 05-02-2015 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 11474467)
The Gambler was really good. Even though the ending was pretty obv.


Did he know when to run?

Baby Lee 05-02-2015 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11474625)
Did he know when to run?

Sometimes he had to fight 'cause he's a man., . . errr.

Ceej 05-02-2015 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11474625)
Did he know when to run?

One day he just started running.....

Baby Lee 05-02-2015 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 11474646)
One day he just started running.....

Clear 'cross the great state of Alabama. . .

Coochie liquor 05-04-2015 05:22 AM

Finally watche Edge of Tomorrow. Thought it was much better than I expected. Usually not a Tom Cruise movie fan, but this was an exception. And yeah I know it's been out forever.

Hammock Parties 05-05-2015 05:24 PM

Aw **** yeah, mother****er. Space Marines coming to KC.

http://drafthouse.com/movies/aliens2/kansas_city

Buehler445 05-05-2015 09:59 PM

Finally caught Godzilla. Pretty damn decent flick.

Also caught the Adjustment Bureau. Not really sure what to think of it. It wasn't at all what I expected, but it was good enough. Emily Blunt is hot. I had no idea.

In58men 05-11-2015 12:46 PM

Just watched the documentary Undefeated. Pretty good stuff. Kinda feel for the kids, rough ****ing lives.

thabear04 05-11-2015 01:39 PM

Saw the movie black or white good movie.

In58men 05-11-2015 05:23 PM

Just watched Homefront. Great movie Jason Statham kicked ass

Hammock Parties 05-11-2015 05:24 PM

Watched two David Lynch films, Inland Empire and Mulholland Drive.

Brain chemistry permanently altered.

Ragged Robin 05-11-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11493108)
Watched two David Lynch films, Inland Empire and Mulholland Drive.

Brain chemistry permanently altered.

I love Lynch but he took Inland Empire way too far.. very exhausting to watch with no payoff. Speaking of Lynch, he backed out of the Twin Peaks comeback due to budget constraints :facepalm:

Coochie liquor 05-12-2015 05:23 AM

Anybody seen the trailer fore new M Night Shyalaman(?) movie 'The Visit'? It looks pretty damn good to me!

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/universal/thevisit/

Fire Me Boy! 05-12-2015 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 11494119)
Anybody seen the trailer fore new M Night Shyalaman(?) movie 'The Visit'? It looks pretty damn good to me!

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/universal/thevisit/


DON'T FALL FOR IT!!

Rausch 05-12-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 11494119)
Anybody seen the trailer fore new M Night Shyalaman(?) movie 'The Visit'? It looks pretty damn good to me!

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/universal/thevisit/

Meh...

Coochie liquor 05-12-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11494123)
DON'T FALL FOR IT!!

Yeah, I k ow. I really want it to be good. I like movies with craziness, and this COULD be one. But given his recent history....

-King- 05-12-2015 01:31 PM

HTTM2 was a disappointment. Not nearly as funny as the first one.

In58men 05-12-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 11494393)
Yeah, I k ow. I really want it to be good. I like movies with craziness, and this COULD be one. But given his recent history....

Another "haunted house" type scary movie? Those get old fast.

Baby Lee 05-12-2015 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 11494901)
Another "haunted house" type scary movie? Those get old fast.

I don't know that the trailer gives enough info to make a judgment. I could see a number of different narratives coming out of the contents.

From a straight up, bump in the night thriller, to a dark comedy, to some psychobabble [may or not be good or resonant] about generation gaps.

Will wait for more insight. Critics are off M.Night's jock at this point. If they find merit in the film, I'll place some credence in that.

Hammock Parties 05-21-2015 08:23 PM

Premature - Groundhog Day, except the main character starts the day over every time he ejaculates. Actually hilarious with some nice T&A.

Commando - Hilarious on first viewing. Will never watch again.

The secret of my success - I'm only halfway through but really enjoying it. 80s cheese with MJFX is my crack.

ThaVirus 05-21-2015 09:34 PM

Interstellar. That movie was heavyyyyyyyy.

Do we have a thread on that here? I'd like to discuss it.

Buehler445 05-21-2015 09:40 PM

I watched Killing Season with De Niro and Travolta. It was pretty bad. There was some interesting violence, but it was bad.

I also saw Homeland. It was OK. Gratuitous violence. Decent story. Over the top methheads. I'd recommend seeing it if you want some shut your mind off watch Jason Statham annihilate ****ers.

jimidollar 05-22-2015 09:23 PM

My wife talked me into seeing the Poltergeist reboot. There aren't enough words to describe that piece of shit.

Coochie liquor 05-23-2015 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11513015)
Interstellar. That movie was heavyyyyyyyy.

Do we have a thread on that here? I'd like to discuss it.

I watched this a couple weeks ago. I really enjoyed it. And there is a thread. Movie was a lot better than I expected.

ThaVirus 05-23-2015 12:07 PM

*The NEW Movies Thread*
 
Re-watched this movie called The Cave from about 10 years ago. Think The Descent but with a mixed cast. It had some low key big names like Lena Headey, Cole Hauser, Morris Chestnut, and Daniel Dae Kim. Anyway, it didn't really make sense. The "monsters" in the movie were shown to be amphibious and yet were never able to find that all-too-easy cave exit?

Also, Cole Hauser plays the same guy in every movie.

Ceej 05-23-2015 04:35 PM

Damn, Charlie St. Cloud was really, really good.

ThaVirus 05-23-2015 04:52 PM

Dallas Buyer's Club was a great movie. Tugged at them heart strings real nice and good like.

Ceej 05-23-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11515716)
Dallas Buyer's Club was a great movie. Tugged at them heart strings real nice and good like.

Great movie.

I'd **** McConnaughey. Then let the entire world know.

ThaVirus 05-23-2015 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 11515780)
Great movie.



I'd **** McConnaughey. Then let the entire world know.


I feel the same about Ryan Reynolds.

Why does McConaughey get such a bad rap? He does comedy, action, romance, drama.. Guy's a pretty good actor if you ask me.

Buehler445 05-23-2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11515888)
I feel the same about Ryan Reynolds.

Why does McConaughey get such a bad rap? He does comedy, action, romance, drama.. Guy's a pretty good actor if you ask me.

For awhile it was all mail it in rom-com. Which I'm sure got him paid but he put out a lot lame for awhile.

Buehler445 05-23-2015 09:41 PM

Yeah. DBC was really good. Had a lot of social issues without being too heavy handed. Really well done IMO.

-King- 05-23-2015 10:33 PM

Watched The Place Beyond The Pines. GREAT movie.

Coochie liquor 05-24-2015 04:55 AM

The wife and I watche 50 shades last night. I don't really see what the big hype is about it. And could the have chosen a chick with an uglier body (at least IMO) than the female lead? I love titties, but hers looked just yuck.

Fire Me Boy! 05-24-2015 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 11516656)
The wife and I watche 50 shades last night. I don't really see what the big hype is about it. And could the have chosen a chick with an uglier body (at least IMO) than the female lead? I love titties, but hers looked just yuck.

"Yuck" is an overstatement, but there's gotta be a lot better looking relatively unknown actresses out there.

Fire Me Boy! 05-24-2015 07:32 AM

It's been out for a while now, but Jersey Boys is enjoyable. Nothing inventive about it, but it's worth a watch for the music alone.

Coochie liquor 05-24-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11516709)
It's been out for a while now, but Jersey Boys is enjoyable. Nothing inventive about it, but it's worth a watch for the music alone.

Yeah, watched that recently too. Was a good movie!

ThaVirus 05-24-2015 11:47 AM

*The NEW Movies Thread*
 
Is there any more convenient Deus Ex Machina than the Eagles in LOTR and The Hobbit? Seriously. What do those all powerful Eagles do in their free time? And why is my phone autocorrecting to capitalize the word Eagles?

Also, why did Beorn only have 4 seconds of screen time in The Battle of the Five Armies? They literally air dropped that man into battle. So ****ing awesome. I would have watched a 2 hour movie of just him wrecking Gundabad orcs.

The Franchise 05-27-2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11516985)
Is there any more convenient Deus Ex Machina than the Eagles in LOTR and The Hobbit? Seriously. What do those all powerful Eagles do in their free time? And why is my phone autocorrecting to capitalize the word Eagles?

Also, why did Beorn only have 4 seconds of screen time in The Battle of the Five Armies? They literally air dropped that man into battle. So ****ing awesome. I would have watched a 2 hour movie of just him wrecking Gundabad orcs.

http://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/...he_eagle_plot/

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Gandalf and the eagles discus the plan for the eagles to take Frodo and the ring to Mordor and the eagles agree to do it, even though it could be dangerous for them because of the nine dragons the Nazgūl ride - the only things in Saurons defences that could stand in the eagles way. But they would have the element of surprise and much greater numbers if they did end up having to fight the dragons.

They see that their ability to fly is the only advantage Saurons enemies have against him and that this plan is the only plan that has any reasonable chance of success. Gandalf and the eagles agree that the plan should be kept very secret. If Sauron hears about it he'll realise the one weakness in his defences and quickly try to protect himself against it, and there goes the one advantage his enemies have.

Gandalf can't risk losing this advantage so he tells no one when he arrives at Rivendell. Nobody can know the plan until they reach the eagles and are flying on their way to Mordor because if they're captured they could have the plan tortured out of them - in the same way Gollum had the location of the ring tortured out of him. When they leave Rivendell they're a group of nine, not a just Frodo, Sam and himself like he'd planned for. But that's fine, he thinks, there are plenty of eagles to carry them.

Gandalf just has to get the fellowship to the other side of the Misty Mountains and go north to meet the eagles where they live, because meeting them anywhere else would mean a greater risk of being seen by the enemy. He can't take any chances of the his plan being discovered in any way and is being extremely careful because as far as he knows the survival of Middle Earth rests on the secrecy and success of his plan.

There are four main routes across the Misty Mountains, they're marked on this map. From north to south:

High pass
Redhorn pass
Moria
The Gap of Rohan

Being closest to the eagles the High pass would have been ideal for Gandalfs plan, but he decided against it because it was the obvious route for crossing the mountains (for whatever plan they might have) so Saruman was watching it. It was also infested with goblins and orcs who could see them travelling north after the pass, inform Sauron or Saruman who might then realise they were going north to meet the eagles thus discovering the plan.
The next most northern pass is what Gandalf settled for, even though it's a very dangerous pass and even though it would mean a long journey north to meet the eagles, it is still the safest route for his plan to remain secret and that is all that's important to him now. Keeping his plan secret was the main reason for him choosing the Redhorn pass. But Saruman was watching here too and sent storms to stop them.

The Gap of Rohan would take them far too close to Isengard, and more importantly too far south. Which was no good for the plan as they'd have to travel the whole length of the Misty Mountains up the eastern side to meet the eagles. So the Gap wasn't an option for Gandalf and the only way left was Moria. Which he didn't like at all and we see he's very reluctant. We think it's only because of the Balrog but it's also because of the risk of goblins and orcs seeing them go north on the eastern side (like the High pass) and because it was further south than he'd planned for which meant it would take longer to reach the eagles.

They almost get through Moria but Gandalf ends up fighting the Balrog and falling down the chasm. When he's about to fall he realises he has to tell them the eagle plan quickly before he falls, and in a way that any nearby orcs and golbins won't understand. He says ''Fly, you fools'' hoping at least one of the fellowship understands what he really means... but they don't. He falls and fights the Balrog. Meanwhile the fellowship escapes Moria and carries on with the only plan they've known - get the ring to Mordor.

ThaVirus 05-27-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11521181)


I've read that before. Seems a pretty good theory, I guess.

Those Eagles are way overpowered though. Even in Return of the King, they dicked the Nazgul dragon with absolutely no problem. Plus, as we saw Battle of the Five Armies, there are tons of them.

If they all decided to squad up nothing in Middle Earth that we've seen could stop them.

ThaVirus 05-27-2015 04:20 PM

Hercules was a steaming pile of shit. He is a Demi-God, he isn't a Demi-God, wait just kidding he really is a Demi-God..

John Wick was ****ing badass though.


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