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Coogs 08-05-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9859926)
I think it's a non-story. Smith throwing picks is more noteworthy simply because it's not supposed to happen (based on his recent performance...). A good practice just means he's just doing what they're paying him to do.

As InChiefsHell said, no news is good news.

I do think it's a good sign in terms of getting him and receivers on the same page.

We will have to agree to disagree. Everyone here seems quick to point out every incompletion and/or sack. And we have been told countless times he can't throw downfield.

I do agree with your last sentence. New QB throwing to new receivers to him... and it seems to be coming together. Getting better by the day. Exactly what you would want... and a much bigger item than our 3rd/4th string QB play.

InChiefsHeaven 08-05-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9860020)
We will have to agree to disagree. Everyone here seems quick to point out every incompletion and/or sack. And we have been told countless times he can't throw downfield.

I do agree with your last sentence. New QB throwing to new receivers to him... and it seems to be coming together. Getting better by the day. Exactly what you would want... and a much bigger item than our 3rd/4th string QB play.

I agree with you on the last point. I guess I didn't think of it that way. It's a good newsworthy sign that our starting QB is gelling nicely with his receivers.

Tribal Warfare 08-05-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9860020)
We will have to agree to disagree. Everyone here seems quick to point out every incompletion and/or sack. And we have been told countless times he can't throw downfield.

I do agree with your last sentence. New QB throwing to new receivers to him... and it seems to be coming together. Getting better by the day. Exactly what you would want... and a much bigger item than our 3rd/4th string QB play.

Lets see if Alex doesn't break 1st when the hitting starts before talking about him as the franchise QB also.

Mr. Laz 08-05-2013 01:13 PM

all new QB's in a new system


right now the QB's are going to look rough in comparison

Coogs 08-05-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9860037)
Lets see if Alex doesn't break 1st when the hitting starts before talking about him as the franchise QB also.

Offensive line play would be responsible for a lot of that issue. We have two 1st rounder draft picks at the tackle positions. A 2nd rounder and an early 3rd rounder at the guard positions. We have a 2nd round draft pick at the Center position. And, we have a 3rd rounder as our top backup player. While it is not a given that all will pan out to be All-Pro's, that much high talent could/should be able to blend into a very nice O-line sooner than later considering all have experience but Fisher... and we know where Fisher was drafted. Plus these guys are getting a serious test everyday in practice from quality completion, with the pads on, and some serious hitting vs the shorts and helmets practices of years past.

Tribal Warfare 08-05-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9860071)
Offensive line play would be responsible for a lot of that issue.

His playing style deals with a lot of passes on the move, or scrambling to pick up 5 to 10 yards for a 1st down. With his injury history he'll be injured and/or out for the season if someone lays a big hit on him. Every QB in the NFL gets lit up in a game. I personally have zero confidence that Alex can survive a season with his playing style, and what waits for him when he's out of the pocket.

Coogs 08-05-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9860081)
His playing style deals with a lot of passes on the move, or scrambling to pick up 5 to 10 yards for a 1st down. With his injury history he'll be injured and/or out for the season if someone lays a big hit on him. Every QB in the NFL gets lit up in a game. I personally have zero confidence that Alex can survive a season with his playing style, and what waits for him when he's out of the pocket.

Fair enough.

ptlyon 08-05-2013 02:00 PM

8 games

keg in kc 08-05-2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9860020)
Exactly what you would want... and a much bigger item than our 3rd/4th string QB play.

Come on, you've been here for how many years? The 3rd/4th string QB play is always a big deal. Bray's the newest great white hope.

BossChief 08-05-2013 02:12 PM

Bray is the closest thing this team has had to a first round quarterback in a very very long time.

Of course that should cause a little excitement.

mcaj22 08-05-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9859551)
It's quite possible that he was also gifted with poor teachers of football as well.

i think this was the case, on his 2nd or 3rd regime and Tennessee, wasnt recruited by the current coaching staff and they all clashed, everyone threw him under the bus and the rest is history

at the end of the day, Bray moves onto an NFL roster with real coaching and Tennesse now has those same coaches and will continue to suck

Im pretty sure Bray was recruited by Kiffin no?

SuperChief 08-05-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9860149)
Bray is the closest thing this team has had to a first round quarterback in a very very long time.

Of course that should cause a little excitement.

I missed any mention of how you thought Bray did from your camp reports. Care to recap?

The Franchise 08-05-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9860153)
i think this was the case, on his 2nd or 3rd regime and Tennessee, wasnt recruited by the current coaching staff and they all clashed, everyone threw him under the bus and the rest is history

at the end of the day, Bray moves onto an NFL roster with real coaching and Tennesse now has those same coaches and will continue to suck

Im pretty sure Bray was recruited by Kiffin no?

Tennessee doesn't have the same coaches.

Tribal Warfare 08-05-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9860153)

at the end of the day, Bray moves onto an NFL roster with real coaching and Tennesse now has those same coaches and will continue to suck

Im pretty sure Bray was recruited by Kiffin no?


correct, to run wait for it...... the WCO

keg in kc 08-05-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9860149)
Bray is the closest thing this team has had to a first round quarterback in a very very long time.

How sad is it that you can say that...about an undrafted player.

BossChief 08-05-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 9860154)
I missed any mention of how you thought Bray did from your camp reports. Care to recap?

IMO he was the most impressive player at camp.

He routinely threw perfect 30-50 yard bombs that were PERFECTLY placed.

I went from "meh" to "I'm really excited to see what this guy does with bigger opportunities"

I think he has some REAL potential if he can put it all together because I don't think there are more than 5 quarterbacks in the NFL that can make throws I saw the kid make in camp.

SuperChief 08-05-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9860194)
IMO he was the most impressive player at camp.

He routinely threw perfect 30-50 yard bombs that were PERFECTLY placed.

I went from "meh" to "I'm really excited to see what this guy does with bigger opportunities"

I think he has some REAL potential if he can put it all together because I don't think there are more than 5 quarterbacks in the NFL that can make throws I saw the kid make in camp.

So the tools are obviously there; it's all just contingent upon his mental approach, I take it. Did he seem poised? Frustrated at all? How did he deal with pressure?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-05-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9860194)
IMO he was the most impressive player at camp.

He routinely threw perfect 30-50 yard bombs that were PERFECTLY placed.

I went from "meh" to "I'm really excited to see what this guy does with bigger opportunities"

I think he has some REAL potential if he can put it all together because I don't think there are more than 5 quarterbacks in the NFL that can make throws I saw the kid make in camp.

Boners for everyone!

ptlyon 08-05-2013 02:51 PM

In pads?

BossChief 08-05-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9860176)
How sad is it that you can say that...about an undrafted player.

Very

mcaj22 08-05-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9860156)
Tennessee doesn't have the same coaches.

so he was through three coaching changes @ Tennessee then?

That's my point, he could have stayed at college this season and said **** that on even the new coaches because he soured on the last coaching staff. Obviously sought bad draft stock advice but that's to the Chiefs benefit now and me as a Chiefs fan, so I'm not complaining.

and Kiffin sold him out pretty much.

So yeah

BigMeatballDave 08-05-2013 02:59 PM

I'm not even about to get excited over training camp performance.

Ace Gunner 08-05-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9860210)
In pads?

ROFL

Ace Gunner 08-05-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9860224)
I'm not even about to get excited over training camp performance.

he's the next tom brady but even more special

BossChief 08-05-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9860238)
he's the next tom brady but even more special

Nobody said that.

Mr. Laz 08-05-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9860238)
he's the next tom brady but even more special

i'm thinking more Jay Cutler-ish

BossChief 08-05-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9860321)
i'm thinking more Jay Cutler-ish

Who would complain about that?

I sure as **** wouldn't.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-05-2013 06:25 PM

Compared to the flaming ass-garbage we possess, "Jay Cutler" might as well be "Tom Brady" for this ****ing team.

Tribal Warfare 08-06-2013 08:22 AM

Jason Madson ‏@Jason_Madson 41s
Bray in at QB. Toss to Draughn, who bobbled but made catch. #ChiefsCamp

ick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 1m
Tyler Bray with a risky throw. Threads the needle between two defenders. Behind Demetrius Harris. Drops the pass. #Chiefs

Reid Ferrin ‏@KCChiefs_Reid 1m
3s are in and Bray finds Draughn on the screen; he then sprinted the 60 yards to the end zone #ChiefsCamp

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 08:22 AM

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs7143s
Tyler Bray with a risky throw. Threads the needle between two defenders. Behind Demetrius Harris. Drops the pass. #Chiefs

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 08:24 AM

Reid Ferrin‏@KCChiefs_Reid1m
3s are in and Bray finds Draughn on the screen; he then sprinted the 60 yards to the end zone #ChiefsCamp

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-06-2013 08:29 AM

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Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs7143s
Tyler Bray with a risky throw.
True Fan explodes.

Tribal Warfare 08-06-2013 08:38 AM

Arrowhead Pride ‏@ArrowheadPride 1m
Attempts throws other Chiefs QBs can't / won't. Good and bad RT @Jacobs71 Tyler Bray with a risky throw

BigCatDaddy 08-06-2013 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9862127)
True Fan explodes.

RUN THE DRAW!!!

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 08:40 AM

Reid Ferrin‏@KCChiefs_Reid1m
Down on the other end of the field, Orie Lemon picks off Stanzi, and then Alex finds 82. #ChiefsCamp

See ya, Dick!

Pasta Little Brioni 08-06-2013 08:45 AM

Who or what is an Orie Lemon?

Tribal Warfare 08-06-2013 08:46 AM

Reid Ferrin ‏@KCChiefs_Reid 11s
Bray in and finds Rico across the middle. #ChiefsCamp

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 08:46 AM

Reid Ferrin‏@KCChiefs_Reid33s
Bray in and finds Rico across the middle. #ChiefsCamp

Pasta Little Brioni 08-06-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9862165)
Reid Ferrin ‏@KCChiefs_Reid 11s
Bray in and finds rico across the middle. #ChiefsCamp

Too long, didn't catch :D

Coogs 08-06-2013 08:51 AM

Remember, most of this is coming from Reid Ferrin, so it is all just Chiefs propaganda. :D

durtyrute 08-06-2013 08:57 AM

Sounds like Bray is getting twice as many snaps as Stanzi.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 08:59 AM

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs7114s
Bray with a rifle to Rico Richardson on a curl. #Chiefs

Tribal Warfare 08-06-2013 08:59 AM

Bray with a rifle to Rico Richardson on a curl. #Chiefs


someone has been watching too many I Love Lucy episodes.

Mav 08-06-2013 09:03 AM

Ricky Stanzi is a dead man walking......

I need a Bray Sig.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9862205)
Ricky Stanzi is a dead man walking......

I need a Bray Sig.

I know Bonekrusher made one a while ago..you can use that or feel free to use mine. :)

You can always use the **** it club logo...

Tribal Warfare 08-06-2013 09:27 AM

pand
Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 2m
Alex Smith will play the 1st qtr, Daniel the 2nd, Bray the 3rd and into 4th, Stanzi will close out 1st preseason game. #Chiefs

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 09:29 AM

**** yeah!

jd1020 08-06-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9862247)
pand
Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 2m
Alex Smith will play the 1st qtr, Daniel the 2nd, Bray the 3rd and into 4th, Stanzi will close out 1st preseason game. #Chiefs

Stanzi just needs a shot with the #2's /Iowa

Tribal Warfare 08-06-2013 09:36 AM

Petro: "Tyler Bray, the ball comes out ...." Dorsey: "It's pretty good." Petro: "It's more than pretty good."

Fat Elvis 08-06-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9862205)
Ricky Stanzi is a dead man walking......

I need a Bray Sig.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/attachmen...9&d=1375674331

Gay for Bray Membership Seal

Carlota69 08-06-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9862177)
Remember, most of this is coming from Reid Ferrin, so it is all just Chiefs propaganda. :D

Yeah, but its not about someone named A. Smith or E. Fisher, therefore its true!

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 09:38 AM

Petro with Dorsey talking about Bray. [Paraphrasing]

Petro: "What's missing...? He has a million $ arm..how did he drop out of the draft?"

Dorsey: "It happens, we are constantly looking for talent like that. But let's be honest, he has a long way to go...he is young. But we are very excited for him"

Petro: "Whats more important, the arm or the brain...?"

Dorsey: "Both...he has got great physical talent, he needs to work on his footwork in the pocket though. And he will, he works real hard at this. And lets not forget those other two QBs in front of him are very good too..."

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 09:38 AM

Arrowhead Pride‏@ArrowheadPride3m
Petro: "Tyler Bray, the ball comes out ...." Dorsey: "It's pretty good." Petro: "It's more than pretty good."

Tribal Warfare 08-06-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9862278)
Arrowhead Pride‏@ArrowheadPride3m
Petro: "Tyler Bray, the ball comes out ...." Dorsey: "It's pretty good." Petro: "It's more than pretty good."

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/D4aob4zlhIk?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Tribal Warfare 08-06-2013 09:47 AM

Dorsey on 810: A lot to learn RT @JohnMiddlekauff people inside the organization they are VERY high on [Bray]


get your jizz cups out

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 09:47 AM

John Middlekauff‏@JohnMiddlekauff6m
I saw @adamteicher reporting Tyler Bray is the 3rd QB w/ the #chiefs, talking w/ people inside the organization they are VERY high on him

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 09:49 AM

The Program ‏@theprogramkc37s
Dorsey likes Tyler Bray's physical tools. Says he still has a lot to learn. Wants him to work on footwork in the pocket...

Coogs 08-06-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9862274)
Yeah, but its not about someone named A. Smith or E. Fisher, therefore its true!

:LOL: Exactly.

Notice how they left out the Bray Interception but bolded the Stanzi one from practice today?

KC_Lee 08-06-2013 09:52 AM

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The Program ?@theprogramkc37s
Dorsey likes Tyler Bray's physical tools. Says he still has a lot to learn. Wants him to work on footwork in the pocket...
Quote:

Dorsey on 810: A lot to learn RT @JohnMiddlekauff people inside the organization they are VERY high on [Bray]
Quote:

Arrowhead Pride?@ArrowheadPride3m
Petro: "Tyler Bray, the ball comes out ...." Dorsey: "It's pretty good." Petro: "It's more than pretty good."
:whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit:

BigCatDaddy 08-06-2013 10:00 AM

He's pretty much the talk of the town up here at the moment. Everyone that has went to camp is raving about his tools.

I think you're going to see a strong push from the fan base to play this kid sooner rather than later.

BossChief 08-06-2013 10:20 AM

Andy Reid doesn't give a **** what the fans want. And rightfully so.

I doubt very highly that Bray even suits up this year for a regular season game unless there is an injury.

BigCatDaddy 08-06-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9862380)
Andy Reid doesn't give a **** what the fans want. And rightfully so.

I doubt very highly that Bray even suits up this year for a regular season game unless there is an injury.

I'm pretty sure that goes for about every coach. "Those that listed to the fans soon become one" and all that jazz.

I agree that Bray needs a year to sit, but when people see Alice being Alice trying deek and dunking his way down the field there are going to be a lot of calls for the guy with the cannon for an arm.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 10:29 AM

TJ Carpenter‏@TJCarpenterWHB1m
Tyler Bray has since backed off his SEC is the same speed as NFL comment. More on The Program coming up NEXT. #Chiefs

TJ Carpenter‏@TJCarpenterWHB1m
Tyler Bray, "It's a lot easier to play fast now when you know what you're doing."

Chiefs=Champions 08-06-2013 10:33 AM

Someone needs to mock up a chiefs version of this t shirt. Id buy.

http://saturdaydownsouth.wpengine.ne...JCEAAoH4j.jpeg

BigCatDaddy 08-06-2013 10:37 AM

Petro hitting hard on my points earlier. "What did this guy do to not get drafted? Run over the Governors cat?

Carlota69 08-06-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9862325)
:LOL: Exactly.

Notice how they left out the Bray Interception but bolded the Stanzi one from practice today?

Oh yeah... Dont get me wrong, I hope this kid is the real deal and our QBOTF, but the bias on this board is unreal.

BigCatDaddy 08-06-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9862450)
Oh yeah... Dont get me wrong, I hope this kid is the real deal and our QBOTF, but the bias on this board is unreal.

Sure. There is a bias for players with um.. talent. I confess :D

Carlota69 08-06-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9862454)
Sure. I have a bias for players for amazing physical tools. I confess :D

Im excited about this kid as well, but most of the A Smith haters only focus on Brays goods (Blow off his negatives) and explain away Alex Smiths successes and highlight his negatives. Its funny.

But yeah, Im digging on this kid as well and hoping he is the GUY for our future. How cool would it be if we found a QBOTF who took us to the promise land and he was UNDRAFTED? Im excited for that possibilty as well, no doubt.

Im also hoping A Smith can do a kick ass job of holding the fort down while this kid learns how to kill it in the NFL, so I'm paying attention to his positives as well as Brays.

Mr. Laz 08-06-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9862380)
Andy Reid doesn't give a **** what the fans want. And rightfully so.

I doubt very highly that Bray even suits up this year for a regular season game unless there is an injury.

Bray needs to sit for a year

He needs to mature and develop the basics before he gets caught up in the playing/media whirlwind

Fat Elvis 08-06-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9862205)
Ricky Stanzi is a dead man walking......

I need a Bray Sig.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9862467)
Im excited about this kid as well, but most of the A Smith haters only focus on Brays goods (Blow off his negatives) and explain away Alex Smiths successes and highlight his negatives. Its funny.

But yeah, Im digging on this kid as well and hoping he is the GUY for our future. How cool would it be if we found a QBOTF who took us to the promise land and he was UNDRAFTED? Im excited for that possibilty as well, no doubt.

Im also hoping A Smith can do a kick ass job of holding the fort down while this kid learns how to kill it in the NFL, so I'm paying attention to his positives as well as Brays.

I want them both to take us to (and win) the Super Bowl. Again and again and again and again....

Mr. Laz 08-06-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9862454)
Sure. I have a bias for players for amazing physical tools. I confess :D

heheheh


BCD likes players tools


heheheh

mdchiefsfan 08-06-2013 11:11 AM

I don't know if this is posted in here, but Reid said that Bray will start the 3rd quarter on Friday and could go into the 4th, with Stanzi mopping up the rest of the time.

Mr. Arrowhead 08-06-2013 11:13 AM

Good Bye Dick!!!!

mdchiefsfan 08-06-2013 11:16 AM

Smith gets the 1st quarter, Daniel the 2nd. Everyone on the roster will play Friday.

DJ's left nut 08-06-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9862314)
The Program ‏@theprogramkc37s
Dorsey likes Tyler Bray's physical tools. Says he still has a lot to learn. Wants him to work on footwork in the pocket...

Ha!

Eat balls, Reid Ferrin. That was what I saw as well.

Dude does not have good feet at all.

I really don't trust these tweets.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9862571)
Ha!

Eat balls, Reid Ferrin. That was what I saw as well.

Dude does not have good feet at all.

I really don't trust these tweets.

There is irony in this.

I am guessing you didnt hear the full inerview, rather you are going off of a tweet...?

Carlota69 08-06-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9862529)
I want them both to take us to (and win) the Super Bowl. Again and again and again and again....

yes!:D

saphojunkie 08-06-2013 12:18 PM

People also forget that this team could trade Bray for a high pick if he makes some preseason noise two years in a row.

That's honestly what I think will happen.

Alex Smith for two years.
Bray gets traded for a pick.
QBOTF drafted in 2015.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-06-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9862682)
People also forget that this team could trade Bray for a high pick if he makes some preseason noise two years in a row.

That's honestly what I think will happen.

Alex Smith for two years.
Bray gets traded for a pick.
QBOTF drafted in 2015.

****. That. Noise.

saphojunkie 08-06-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9862686)
****. That. Noise.

I didn't say it was what I wanted. Just what I think is most likely.


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