Hearing all the SEC chatter down here in the heart of SEC country, I'm 90% sure that the SEC had heavy interest in Mizzou.

I'm happy. My preference has been what is better for Kansas City over what is better for the University of Missouri. Mizzou staying in the Big XII, with equal revenue sharing, is best for KC.

(and doesn't preclude a future jump to the Big 10 lolololololol)

Well, if there was an offer on the table, the people who know the most about it obviously thought it would be better to stick around. So yeah... either there was no offer or you got the better deal by staying.

That is awfully specific for something reported by ESPN. They sometimes pass on stuff from questionable sources, but you usually don't hear that kind of detail unless its solid. (that, or "goldandbluezone" is making crap up)

I think most Mizzou folks would have far more confidence in the university's leadership if Deaton weren't trying to balance chairing up the Big XII whatever-the-**** committee and trying to make choices in the best interest of the U of Missouri.

Nothing is official yet anyway, man.

It's pretty much "whatever" at this point for me. The Big XII is unstable, but the money will be there, and it's geographically sensible.

Could be a blessing in disquise for Mizzou football. If the Big 12 expands with the rumored schools, Mizzou might be looking at top 10 program each year because of wins they could be getting and alot of Big 12 North titles.

Swaim is claiming to have 2 separate sources, one from WVU, and one from the SEC

The twitterverse is starting to turn on Swaim and ESPN radio 97.3, mocking them for being the only ones to report on WVU to SEC.

It's quite hilarious that most of us -KSU fans- just want you mutts to make your move so we don't have to listen to you cry about UT, OU, Brady Deaton, LHN, and any and all other aspects of the conference that makes you poor bitches unhappy.

Cry the big cry, sisters of the confederacy.

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I don't know if WVU to the SEC is true, but that group knew well in advance that they had talked Huggs into leaving KSU during that soap opera. There is a guy or two on that site that has friends in high places.

The guy from 97.3 that started the whole WV to SEC rumor has already recanted. Now he is saying that his sources in WV are hopeful a deal with the SEC will get done.

I was really hoping for Mizzou to go to the SEC. Disappointment to me.

Can we update the OP to show what the playing field looks like today? Or is it all still just a bunch of speculation.

That seems to be a minority opinion among Mizzou fans, but that's where I'm at too.

I'm not buying this WVU to the SEC noise. I guess we'll see if there's an announcement on Wednesday but right now there are more reasons why the SEC wont add and doesn't want WVU than there are reasons for WVU to the SEC to be true.

Mainly speculation.

Its not a done deal, just mb and twitter chatter. No one knows how good these WVU sources are, and no bigtime legit media is jumping on this yet.

Delay the parade for now, SWCjr fans.

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There is nothing concrete as of yet, as I said...hearing #WVU people, the hope from the WVU people is that this will get done.

LOL, you can't make this shit up.

The Big 12's new commissioner Chuck Neinas, who was supposed to replace the previous UT puppet Dan Beebe, is entering into a new sports joint venture with - you guessed it - UT AD Deloss Dodds.

The dude has been on the job for less than a week and has already made it clear he is another UT-appointed puppet.

LMAO

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html

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When I ran the Big 8, Missouri wasn't so uppity. Maybe it's been all of the success in softball. But it's kind of annoying.

LMAO

hahaha the old one has aids, that cracked me up.

LMAOLMAO

After reading that the new Big 12 commish is going into business with the Texas AD...screw it, Mizzou just needs to leave. Too much UT incest going on in this conference.

I think "going into business with" is a little too strong for what is going on there. I'm not even sure it's a new thing. They're both advisors to someone else's business along with several commissioners, ADs, and other college sports figures. I don't know exactly what the arrangement is, but it looks a little like serving on a Board of Directors more than being a party of a business and sharing the profits.

It would be pretty surprising if the other schools in the conference weren't aware of this when they asked Neinas to act as interim commissioner.

This.

It amazes me how MU fans want to bitch about Texas and the deal they have when it was Mizzou who gave them the opportunity to get that deal by starting this whole debacle last year.

I've wanted the conference to stay together because it was the best possible scenario for KSU. Now I'm just about to the point I want to see it gone because tired of all the jealousy, inferiority complexes and bickering.

Would you not agree that even the potential appearance of impropriety is a poor sign given the current Big 12 mess and the common theory that the prior Big 12 Commissioner was a UT puppet?

I don't think the news is a conviction of Neinas, but I do think the timing is terrible for this to make the public rounds.

Mizzou alone gave UT the power to start LHN? Do tell the details of the latest KSU conspiracy theory.

It might be. But considering his predecessor was ousted for being a Texas man, you would think he would want to avoid any perception of that, especially at the beginning of his tenure.

I am ready for Mizzou to leave the Big XII simply because nothing can ever stay concrete. Anytime OU or UT wanna change the rules, they can and do. Alabama may hold the most power in the SEC, but you don't see them jerking everyone else's chains and changing up the rules. In the SEC, the elite rule on the field, but it appears that off the field the schools are on a much more equal footing than in the BIG XII.

Didn't say that. I said they gave them the opportunity to get what ever deal they wanted by shaking up the conference with talk of leaving. Before you know it Nebraska and Colorado are gone and Texas gets the deal they want to play conference "saviour".

But Mizzou set it all into motion.

No, because that is what Neinas does for a living. For some odd reason, he's built this gigantic reputation as a go-to guy if you need to have a national search for an AD or a coach. He has been hired by almost every school in the Big 12 at some point for some reason or another.

If this was something from out of the blue sure maybe it would raise some eyebrows, but since it has been his profession for decades, it is kinda goofy to read anything sinister into it.

So Mizzou is responsible because they looked out for their own interest? They should have just kept bending over and taking it just to keep the conference together? (Like Mizzou is soooo important that the BIG XII could not survive without it.)

Can't have it both ways. Either Mizzou is important enough to the conference to keep it together (which means UT and OU need to make relevant concessions to MU needs), or they are not (which means no one should care where Mizzou goes and what Mizzou does.) Which is it?

Ah, the ole Mizzou ruined the perfect harmony of the Big 12 theory. Gotcha. Carry on.

But the original concern many had about Neinas was that he was another Deloss Dodds' puppet. Less than a week after he is announced as the new Big 12 Commissioner, he announces a joint venture with - wait for it - Deloss Dodds. Maybe there really is nothing substantive about it, but perception is reality.

Jesus, at this point I hope we stay in the Big XII just so we get to keep stomping the shit out of the Kansas teams. :rolleyes:

That concern is dumb.

You are starting a company and your business plan is to market yourself as a consultant that provides expert advice to universities for everything related to college athletics, from compliance to coaching searches.

You hire on one of our nation's leading AD and coaching search guys, and the director of the largest athletic department in the country to provide professional advice.

Obviously these aren't going to be the only two experts this firm is retaining, they probably have dozens, but we're going to pick this coincidence nit for all its worth.

:spock: Didn't say Mizzou was important to the over all viability of the conference. I said they set into motion the departures that have taken place by trying to do the same (and botching it badly I might add).

I don't know why the school thought they were getting ass raped, Texas didn't have this huge deal until last year. I still think it boils down to jealousy. If you can't beat 'em, leave 'em I guess.....

LMAO

The concern that the Big 12 (Texas) could hire a commissioner that is a Texas puppet - who would replace the prior Texas puppet - is dumb?

Okay al.

Theory? Is it not fact that Mizzou was the first to look into leaving?

Is it not fact that there were major structural problems within the Big 12 that created mistrust and selfishness?

If Mizzou was the only one unhappy and everyone else was holding hands and singing Kumbaya, why didn't everyone just kick out Mizzou? Why have three other schools left in the last year? Why were OU and OSU desperately wanting to leave a week ago?

You can't be this stupid, can you?

You don't know who initiated it. What if they floated the offer to MU? Was Alden supposed to say "No, we can't do that - somebody in Kansas might get butthurt over it"?

Actually it is not a fact. I have read in several Nebraska press releases/conferences, etc. about how hard they had worked "over the years" to secure a place in the B1G, and how they felt a "kinship" with Big 10 schools and other B.S. As I recall, many Nebraska fans and the like used that for justification for jumping in and screwing Mizzou in the first place.

Also lost in the whole Big 10 debacle was that no one really knows when Colorado opened their dialogue with the Pac 10. No one really cared at the time, but that deal had to have been discussed well before it happen. Colorado was just under the radar because no one really cared whether they stayed or left.

JMI Sports has retained 17 advisors

http://www.jmisports.com/college/advisors/

Oh God, wait a sec, I'm starting to see it now... there's 7 people with ties to the PAC 12... 3 with ties to the Big 10... someone from Florida... and oh geez, someone from Texas A&M!!!

Holy crap, Texas is orchestrating everything. They used their evil secret ties to get the PAC 12 to block OU, to get the Big 10 to turn down Mizzou... they are probably taking advantage of their Florida sleeper agents to screw the tigers there, too... all to provide Texas A&M, who they were sick of hearing about every year really, a clear way out while imprisoning the rest of us. And now Neinas has been installed to rule over us all.

We're doomed.

You are paranoid.

LMAO

TEXAS PUPPET!!!!!1111

I posted a link to an SI article in the first realignment thread (pre-AIDS) from the early 90's. It was discussing the rise of the superconferences even back then, and mentioned strong rumors of Colorado leaving for the PAC. They had been talking to each other for decades.

Yes, apparently Nebraska, Colorado, A&M, and virtually every national sports writer is paranoid too. We can't see the forest through the trees like random ku fan.

If you are using JMI Sports as your proof that NEINAS, not Beebe, not anyone else, not anything that happened the last couple years, is a Texas puppet...

then yes, you are paranoid.

20-17 ROFL

I never said proof. I clearly said it was an appearance of impropriety; certainly a conflict of interest now that Neinas is Big 12 Commissioner.

But of course we have no reason to mistrust Texas. They have no history of attempting to gain uneven power. Good call.

LMAO

LMAO

GTFO then. The SEC is waiting.

OU proved they wont go with out Texas, who is allegedly THE structural problem you talk about. OU CAN compete with and beat Texas, so they don't mind staying in the same conference. It's everyone else who wants to think themselves on the same level as Texas and gets butt hurt when they aren't treated the same. Go ahead, run off. I hope you do land in the Big 10. You think you have a hard time winning this conference.....

Overacting too much on this one.

:deevee:

You guys need to have a pow-wow and make up your minds. Do you want to smart and keep us, or do you want to act tough and say you don't need us?

So you are saying that it might have been the Big 10 that expressed interest in Mizzou.... But Nebraska got the invite?

I'm just laughing at you acting like a vagina. I honestly don't care what MU does. I'm happy if you stay and I'm happy if you leave.

I'm sorry - were you in a coma all last summer or something?

My problem with the interim commissioner is that he's someone with the appearance of being completely out of the loop. He literally did his interview on Game Day from a golf course, by all appearances, and it seems obvious that he was just enjoying retirement.

Cool. No problem.

The problem occurs when he's now being asked to go 0-60 to salvage a complete ****ing mess.

LOL. Actually OU proved they CAN'T go without Texas, even after dominating the conference since its inception. That was a tough pill to swallow for them, but they learned their less and fell back in-line. I hope we do leave, but unfortunately it is probably more likely we will stay.

Yeah, you clearly don't care what Mizzou does, considering you've posted incessantly in the last two threads over the past month or so even though there have been absolutely zero credible rumors of anyone wanting ku. Clearly.

LMAO

Why, did I miss something? :)

Please. There's so much estrogen oozing out of Kansas right that we're ankle deep in the run-off.

But I'm happy you're happy. I see many more 6 touchdown losses in your future. Have a ball.

Yeah, pretty much. Pull up a chair and set down, or don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

So because I care about what happens to KU, I care about what happens to MU? Are our fates somehow intertwined? As far as MU goes, I have been an interested observer, that's about it. Sure, I worried about what Texas and OU were planning, but that's because their decisions would affect KU.

You can go back and read me saying that you guys should go to the SEC at one point. Later on you can see me talking how if there's equal revenue sharing and stability is forced, it would probably be better for you guys to stay.

You acting like an asshurt communist pussy has been hilarious, though, so I'm grateful for that.

Hey, man, I have stayed out of all the shit talking on schools in this thread. You're barking at the wrong tree.

Yeah, you're renowned for your ability to stay above the fray. LMAO

Not sure why that would be amusing, you can't swing a cat in Lawrence without hitting at least 2 asshurt communists pussies. I'd assume you'd have grown bored with them by now.

At least he doesn't wear socks with sandals or anything.

(Christ I hope he doesn't wear socks with sandals...)

LMAO

LMAO, interested observer? You have been reduced to hoping and praying Mizzou doesn't go so you can lead the cheer squad. That's all you have - no one even entertains the thought of trying to bring your shit school anywhere. You can try and act coy and innocent all you want, but your true colors will eventually shine.

Damn that is some tough talk. Do you suck bevo's cock with that mouth? ku bending over and spreading their cheeks doesn't help Mizzou negotiate to improve financial equality for all conference schools, but I guess Stockholm Syndrome has fully kicked in now and you have prepared to pledge full loyalty to your Belt Buckle overlords. :thumb:

After finding out that their husbands are leading a double life and have married other women in another state, Mizzou fan decides to get a divorce, and KU fan decides to become a Mormon and let him keep his other wife out of fear of being alone.

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This right here is my biggest concern with Neinas. Not UT corruption, but this ultra-casual happy sense of ignorance he projects.

Maybe some people take it as refreshing honesty or something, but when a commissioner flat-out says "I'm not sure, I get the impression they want to do suchandsuch but I need to talk with them", that doesn't inspire confidence. If you don't know, either say no comment or give a confident strong political non-answer.

Well Tim, in an effort to be fair, I had to do some reading in order to understand why Missouri is such a powerhouse, and highly desired by these big conferences. Wow, they have been around a long time, holy crap they must have had a lot of success and tradition.

I really can't see where they have done anything except softball and soccer since the inception of the big12. They did win a Big 12 BB tournament in 2009, but you guys don't care about that. (94-171?)

They did seem to have a lot of success in the Missouri Valley though, maybe that is what is really going on? Could an in state rivalry with Missouri State in the same conference be on the horizon? :D

So, let me see if I have this straight. Nebraska goes to the Big 10, they're a bunch of assholes. Colorado goes to the PAC, they're a bunch of assholes. Texas A&M takes off to the SEC, they're a bunch of assholes. Mizzou goes to some other conference, they had to because everybody else was just a bunch of big ol' meanies.

I don't think us Mizzou fans needs to explain ourselves for the thousandth times on this thread and the other thread... negreppedson has asked the same question over and over, go look at those responses