Can't let him know all of my swing secrets right away. :evil:

Ugh, that was ugly.

:evil:

Man I am sick of winter already and ready for golf season.

Think I may get a new driver this year, decision decisions

Hey, golfers - waddya want for Christmas? I want a GPS, and knowing my wife she'll get me one, and it'll be the cheapest POS she can find that looks like a golf gps.

Thinking about a new cart bag, got my eye on a Bag Boy Revolver Pro. Anybody have any opinions/recommendations about bags?

I have had two skycaddy's love them!!!!


BTW was out looking at new drivers for the year, and fell in love. The new Ping i15 is one of the best looking clubs I have seen in a long time. Anti-draw, all black face, man I have to get me one.

Also the new Cleveland CG7 irons look bad ass, with the black heads. Adams also has a set out with black heads (they are blades) and a black steel shaft.

ping
http://www.sandbox8.com/wp-content/g...5%20Driver.jpg


Cleavland

http://img.timeinc.net/golf/i/equipm...-Irons_600.jpg



Adams

http://z.about.com/d/golf/1/0/v/2/1/..._Pro_Black.jpg

I'm damn happy with my Upro.

And once the weather warms up a bit, I'm going to test drive an R9 460. You can get them damn cheap in the resale market now.

Anybody going over the OPCC for the Kansas City Golf Show? I might head over there this afternoon if my class gets out early.

http://www.kansascitygolfshow.com/

[QUOTE=smittysbar;6498880]I have had two skycaddy's love them!!!!


BTW was out looking at new drivers for the year, and fell in love. The new Ping i15 is one of the best looking clubs I have seen in a long time. Anti-draw, all black face, man I have to get me one.

Also the new Cleveland CG7 irons look bad ass, with the black heads. Adams also has a set out with black heads (they are blades) and a black steel shaft.

ping
http://www.sandbox8.com/wp-content/g...5%20Driver.jpg


I could never hit an 11 degree loft driver. I already hit an extremely high ball with a 9.5degree loft. Nice looking club, though.

[quote=ChiTown;6544149]Now the Callaway FT-iQ's have dropped in price, and I absolutely love the look of those drivers... big ol' square head, just like mine. Carbon fiber is so damned sexy.

My sister told me about a yoga for golf class she had heard about. I think I might do it.

I can see it now, a bunch of over weight booze swilling golfers rolling around on the floor looking like big fat drunken pretzels.

PhilFree:arrow:

I hate square drivers, personally. No feel, and they don't go as far, IMO.

YMMV.

I'm in the market for a new <del>complete ****ing waste of money</del> driver myself.

That said, the technological advances from my G2 to the current crop isn't what most would have you believe.

I'm thinking about grabbing a gently used Rapture (original, super long) or taking an FT-9 for a test drive and figuring out what shaft works best for me.

I kind of got out of golf last year just due to work, family, etc. I'm hoping to get back into it fully this year. We should do a CP Golf outing sometime.

I left golf for about 8 years. Now that my kids are older, and want to play, I'm ALL in. I even have my wife getting into the game. Matter of fact, my wife and I are going on a 5-Day golf vacation in Sedona in May.

That would be a blast. Of course, I've always said to myself "Keep the wife out of golf....it's the only piece and quiet you get" lol.

I don't care about any of this crap about Tiger going through sex therapy. He probably doesn't mean any of it, anyway. I just want him to play golf again by the Masters.

Yeah I hit 8.5 to 9.5

Just got in from 2 man scramble. -2 69 to finish at the bottom of the champ. flight. Fun considering we'd only played twice since last fall. Wishing we'd found a bogey somewhere.

Just went and chipped and putted for about 45 minutes for the first time this year.

I'm working on two main things this year: keeping my spine angle consistent, and making sure that my left wrist doesn't break down in my putting stroke.

I used to feel the same way about square drivers.

Then I picked up a Callaway FT-I on eBay with a matrix xcon 6 for nothing. Dude had no idea the shaft alone was worth a bundle. Figured if I hated it, I'd pull the shaft and double/triple my money.

Finally took it out yesterday, and I hit the biggest bombs ever with it - and you can still work the club. Pretty damn happy about that get.

I tried a Nike Square driver a couple years ago and just couldn't hit it. Didn't like it so haven't tried another one since.

I would bet that most of that is the shaft, though.

Absolutely.

But if I'm hitting the ball just as far, in some cases farther - and hitting more fairways in the process - I could give a shit what the clubhead looks like.

It's not for everyone, I know, but I'm glad I gave it a shot.

Went through the same issue a couple of years back, changed my putting grip from a traditional overlap to a reverse overlap grip. Took a good couple of weeks to get a feel but have loved it on short ,3-8 foot putts ever since. And that grip doesn't allow for the wrist breakdown.

Kind of my story. My oldest was born 13 1/2 years ago and I put 'em up. Last year, all three kids and my wief seemed to show an interest. Went out, bought some new clubs, and joined a club. Having a blast. Now if I can just keep myself from opening up to early in my swing.

Some epic lawls going on right now

I was at a Dick's Sporting Goods last night and found the following clubs:

Callaway FT-IQ Imix (Fubuki) for 199 (they also have the V2 and ProLaunch, FWIW)
Ping Rapture (original) with a Blueboard for 199.

Thoughs?

That seems like a steal for the Cally

If anybody in the KC area wants to get together to play some golf let me know. I've played about 10 times in the last 6 years so I pretty much blow now. Would like to get back into it and don't have any friends that play. Used to shoot mid 70's, shot a 67 once, but now I'm probably a 80-90 golfer.

My clubs are so old.
"How Old are they?"


Seriously. I have 12-15 year old mizunos. I have steel shafted t-toid woods. I need to upgrade badly so what's the pro's playing these days? I think I still need what they play. I really don't like the way golf tech has gone but I guess I should keep up. Are they still making drivers over length? 43", 43.5" 44.5"? I have no clue. I've played golf since the I was 10 but I never was a club guy. All I wanted was a new set of Hogan Apex's and I was good. LOL....That was a different world in regards to golf.


PhilFree:arrow:

Get some new ones fitted for you and get them fitted for you THIS YEAR!! After this year, you can't get the old grooves. I'm thinking of getting another set of Ping G-5's as a backup.

Seems a little pricey for the 07 model rapture compared to what you can probably hunt up on ebay. I can't comment on one with a Blueboard since I haven't hit that combo but I really like it with a Proto VS which I have played for the past three seasons.

Looks like a better deal on the FT-IQ Imix. I hit one a few months ago and though it felt surprisingly solid but I just can't get past the clubhead design on setup.

The thing about the Rapture is that it's a stupid long club, and I wouldn't mind getting one new as opposed to buying used, simply for the fact that you know the face will have life in it.

Club technology has progressed quite a lot in the past 10-12 years with both clubheads and composite shafts. I would probably suggest replacing the driver first since that will probably be the most different/improvement than what you currently have in your bag. Standard length is now 45.5" and the heads are a hell of a lot bigger than the 90's.

What mizuno irons are you playing? T-zoid pro, MP-29 or something? More traditional players irons haven't changed quite as much as others so depending on what you have you may be able to stick with them.

Finding a demo day or a driving range that has a pro shop with a lot of options to hit would probably be a good starting point.

What is your handycap? I can toss out a few suggestions of what you may consider.

I usually mess around with various demo drivers over the holidays for the hell of it whenever I am playing with my parents. I still haven't found anything that has really been longer than my Rapture. IMO Ping did a nice job of balancing the benefits of the more extreme MOI designs with the length of on center hits of the more traditional shape.

The only driver I thought I might like slightly better was an R9 with a Fujikura Motore shaft but I never really considered making the change.

I have a set of Mp-14s. I used to be a decent stick and if I play much I'll shoot low 70's maybe even under par if I get it going. I spent my youth pounding golfballs but I never kept up with the clubs. At this point I need to find a driver I can bomb but I just hate the big heads. I'm kind of stuck. That's why I bought the t-zoids. They were the smallest head I could find. Before that I was still using wood woods.

PhilFree:arrow:

So my buddy called me last night and said he had some cash to buy some new clubs. He isn't very good only started playing last summer. He was wanting suggestions on the best clubs to get. I told him I'd think about it. I know he needs some that will be maximum forgiveness and probably oversized clubheads. You guys have some ideas for me to give him? I think he would spend up to about $600. He is the kind of guy who wants nice stuff but still wants something that is going to help him.

Got hooked the f*** up! One of my students this week helped me score a Garmin Approach G5 for the right price. Getting shipped to the house by the end of the week, so with next week's prep week, I ought to be to hit the links at least once.

You will fall in love with GPS, SO convenient.

Played yesterday, shot 95 with four ****ing triple bogeys.

Not thrilled, but I'll take it for first round of the year.

I also got out for the first time yesterday and shot an 86. I play at the Elks GC here in Salina, Ks. In my defense, our greens were on the hairy side and kind of slow. Hit some nice drives and my iron play wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be. Come on nice weather.

Played like shit today!

We have the greens slick as hell though. I am really wanting new irons, I am thinking AP2's. I can get them at under cost.......wanting to pull the trigger.....BAD

Playing tomorrow afternoon. Can't wait!

Look out neighboring windows, I'll be teeing off in about 20 hours!
:LOL:

I've been out twice this week(twice this year actually) Walked a whole nine holes while daughter drove the cart on tuesday and hit a large bucket of balls today along with afw putts. So far no injuries.........


PhilFree:arrow:

My Aunt sent me a greg norman golf shirt for my bday..gotta hit the links soon.

I always liked "The Shark".


PhilFree:arrow:

And four rounds later, I'm potentially done for the year.

Was at the lake getting 72 in over Friday and Saturday last weekend, and tore up my knee.

Doc is 100% sure I have a significant meniscus tear, and is 50/50 on whether I have an ACL or MCL tear. MRI results should be in tomorrow.

FML.

"If you don't keep score, how do you measure yourself against other golfers?"

"Height."

That sucks. Did you hurt it by actually playing golf or did you have a spill somewhere?


PhilFree:arrow:

I also gave a golf lesson to a guy who was hitting balls next to me. He hit better. Go figure!

PhilFree:arrow:

Damn.

Hopefully your meniscus won't have to be removed, because you'll essentially be Torry Holt for the rest of your life.

How do you guys have so much time to play golf so much? I don't get it. I played everyday when I was in high school. Now I work and get home at 6. So can't really play in the week. On the weekend I have tons of shit to do around the house.

So tell me about golf clubs. Mine are from back from 1999 or something like that. I have some ping blade irons and one of those Ping Black Headed drivers that are about 300 CC. Calloway 3 and 5 wood. I thought that thing was huge now, but I guess they make them like 550 CC's now. Is this crap really that much better now?

I usually hit my driver about 280, could I increase my drives by 10 yards?

1) You don't have blades. Ping didn't make blades until the S-59s. You have the I3 blade (as opposed to the O-size) which is still a cavity backed iron

2) Clubs go up to a maximum of 460 CCs, not 550.

3) Your driver is a Ping Tisi, which was a great driver.

You could increase your drives significantly, but you'll get just as much out of the new balls. Titleist didn't start making the Pro V1s and other multilayer, elastomer covered balls that were low spin off the driver and high off the wedges until after you stopped playing.

The best thing that you could do is go to Golf Digest and read their Hot List. You can also go to a forum like GolfWRX.com, but those guys are so wonky and specialized about equipment it probably won't be helpful for you for a while.

If cost is a concern check out the following websites;

3balls.com
Callawaygolfpreowned.com
Rockbottomgolf.com
Globalgolf.com

and Ebay.

Also, if you want to know what a fair price is for a used club, Topeka the PGA Tour Value Guide.

IMO, I'd stay with your irons, they were good clubs. I had a set of i3s for almost 10 years. Now I play the i5s.

As far as the drivers go, any of the drivers made in the last couple of years will give you the same performance, but you should go to a place where they can find a shaft that fits your swing characteristics. The shaft is by far the most important part of the golf club.

Any other ?s, just ask.

Wow. Thanks for the insight. Very knowledgeable post.

If I can get to play golf once every week or two this year I am probably going to buy another driver. I hit a big high sweeping draw most of the time, so I kinda like my Ping driver because it's not an offset face.

My golf coach used to get pissed at me because I would sell my Pro-V's for 20% off to the other teams and just use my Maxfli's. Not that I didn't like them, but hey, I wanted some beer money and those things were expensive.

I used to have a Taylor Made back in the day, w/ that burner bubble shaft thing. I never noticed any difference and seemed mickey mouse to me. But alot has changed in 8-10 years. Titanium used to be the rave. I'll have to find a demo day sometime soon and check these things out.

I used a Calloway EVR (or whatever the illegal driver was called) one time at a demo day and I could tell right away why it was illegal. That thing just launched whitey deep. Sometimes would pull out the Condor ball just trying to mess around w/ my friends, and if you caught those things right they would fly forever, but they never seemed to react the same way. Those things were also illegal.

Playing. Follow-through on a driver swing, got my weight transferred to my front foot, and went down like I'd been hit by sniper fire.

Being the dumbass I am, I not only finished the remaining 9 holes of that round, but "Tiger'd" it out for another round we had scheduled later that day.

My biggest concern as well. Rehab is a concern, but secondary compared to the possibility of being bone on bone for the next 40 years. Depending on the severity and location(s) of the tear(s), I could be looking at anywhere from 6 weeks to 6 months of rehab.

I have a 10:45 appt, I hope to know my options by Noon.

Here is some stuff as a jumping off point.

Check out http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-equipment/hot-list for a bit of a primer on newer clubs. I have heard a lot of great things about the Titleist AP2 but I have not hit them since they are a bit over my ability on off days. Callaway x-22 tour and x-forged are other popular players irons and Mizzuno is still doing good things. You might try googleing hot list 2009 and 2008 for players irons for something to target on the used market at a better value.

For players hybrids the only thing I can really suggest is either the Adams Pro or Adams Pro Gold. The Pro plays more like a traditional 2 or 3 iron but with the advantages of a hybrid and I think is still pretty popular on the tour. The Pro Gold is more forgiving and produces a slightly higher launch/trajectory but produces less of a long iron type of trajectory.

My personal favorite 3 wood at the moment is the Taylor Made R7 Tour Preferred from a few years back. I have also heard good things about the more recent Burner Tour Preferred. The Titleist 906 f2/f4 is also very nice. All of them are more of the traditional size.

As Hamas already said the shaft is a huge part of club selection these days. With irons not much has changed (Dynamic Gold is still one of the most popular after nearly 30 years) but with your woods you will want to find something that matches your swing.

460 cc drivers from a few years ago can be found pretty cheap on ebay or some of the other sites Hamas suggested. If you are looking for something with a neutral face an R7 Tour Preferred might be an option. I think Ping still offers neutral or open faces through their custom WXR setups but those are more difficult to find of the used market and more expensive when buying new.

Played last night for the first time in 6 months. Windy as shit out. Shot a 51 on 9...which for me isn't horrible...but, I started the season with a birdie.

Drove the ball just off the fairway about 140 out. Into a strong wind, I punched a 5 iron (to keep it down) and it rolled up about 5 feet from the pin. And holy shit, I hit the putt as well.

Rest of the round wasn't that good, but at least I started off with a bang.

You have your priorities screwed up!

PhilFree:arrow:

Thread is kinda dead.....walked ninen holesn today whilst my daughter drove the cart. She played too and ripped at least one shot.......I on the other hand did not make a single birdie. My ball strking is coming and my swing is getting loose and managable.(sp?) A golf swing can be like a race car. Loose is fast............I have to learn how to make putts......when I was a kid.....burp..never mind.


Philfree:arrow:

Jesus.

Billy Payne is a ****ing reerun.

Sorry, can't embed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/maste...ory?id=5063768

My 9-hole golf league started two weeks ago. I literally played bogey golf the first round. Made bogey on every hole. I don't ever remember having a string that long. It was definitely the bogey train. I improved on Monday and shot 39. Made my first birdie of the year on the second hole... and it was windy as hell when we started but calmed down by about the 5th hole.

Hootie Part II.

Billy wants TW too be white again ....

Hit 150+ balls today with 50 drivers in a row. Went to a great swing thought because I was flailing at it a little. Good swing thought while hitting drivers is think "take it half way back and hit it half as hard as normal." Of course you'll end up taking it further back then half way and you'll end up hitting it harder then half. You should end up just smokin' it. The great thing about this is it's not a mechanical thought. Try it! Half way back and half as hard!


PhilFree:arrow:

Sounds like a good swing thought, I'll try it tomorrow. I try to think, swing easy swing through. Problem is I forget that thought after a couple of holes. Then when you play in the wind like we had today, all you can think is I've got to kill it. Doesn't work.

I just try to focus on one thought, and one thought only. Like hitting a certain point in the swing plane or elbow in etc.... and letting the swing follow after that. If I don't think but concentrate on 1 thing instead of so many outside influences my game is so much better.

Walked another 9 while my daughter drove the cart. I had hit 150+ balls on friday and working upper body on saturday and lower on sunday I could not turn away freely today.I really don't keep score till I've played enough for it to be my game. It was a 42 unoficially.......... It was awful in my mind but I should be looser tommorrow when I play Hickory Hills C.C. with my daddy. If I get out three times this week I should start seeing major progress.


PhilFree:arrow:

Played 18 on Sunday at St. Andrews in Olathe from the blue tees. Pretty easy course but I liked it. Shot 78 and only three putted twice. Which is decent putting for me since I can't putt. Alot better course than I expected. #15 is a fun hole if you hit a big high wide ugly hook like me. It's like 485 yd par 5, but you can launch a huge hooked driver over the trees and be 85 yards out and cut the hole in half. No joke. Somehow I still bogeyed when I shanked two pitch shots in a row.

Played 9 yesterday (first time out) and hit the ball like complete ass. Short game was even worse. If I had been keeping score, I don't think I would have broken 50.

Went out today, caught 6 quick holes in +1. Best shot was nutting a 3 wood from 240ish over the green on a par 5 to set up a chip and putt birdie.

Such is golf for me. Maddeningly inconsistent.

BTW, Golfnow.com is pretty cool. You can get discounted tee times. I found a deal to play Tiffany Greens for like $35 w/ a cart. Of course you have to be able to play in the evening, but that is when you don't have fivesome's of old guys hibbity hobbling around and can go faster.

FWIW, as much as hitting a slice would suck, being someone who hits a hard draw is even worse when it comes to looking for equipment. I went back to Dick's in CoMo tonight and was looking hard at an FT-iQ with the tour version of the Fubuki (63g), but even that driver had a shut face.

Why do they make every club w/ a offset closed face just about? I know there has got to be a reason? Most pros hit like to hit a fade w/ as it's more controlled, but do they tune their clubs to be offset a little?

Same reason you see "draw" clubs - 99% of recreational golfers slice the ball...

Yeah it's a handy site. Golfhub.com is another good one to look for deals.

For some reason I remember it being easier back when Callaway sold neutral faced drivers. Off the top of my head about the only thing you might find at Golfsmith is a Taylor Made TP.

Because 90% of golfers hit a slice.