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Hammock Parties 04-24-2025 11:00 PM

never seen an OT with a face this lean

is he on ozempic?

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kccrow 04-24-2025 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 18042483)
look at the losers in this thread doubting the architects of our world famous dynasty

Just like you doubted Patrick Mahomes, while some of us beat that drum all of that offseason? You should go back and look at your glorious track record.

kcfan75 04-24-2025 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 18042479)
Players that suffer a leg injury and play with a peg leg is about as rare as Simmons injury at his age/position.

True, Simmons is also young(22) and hungry. Based on the stats previously posted on recovery, I'd like to see ages taken into consideration.

I'm sure recovery is taken a little more seriously by a 22 y/o who heals faster, than a 32-year-old vet on his third contract and 40 mill in the bank.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2025 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18042487)
Just like you doubted Patrick Mahomes, while some of us beat that drum all of that offseason? You should go back and look at your glorious track record.

False. This never happened. When he was drafted I sang his praises.

Balto 04-24-2025 11:03 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Despite Josh Simmons claiming he’s ahead of schedule, <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballDoc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ProFootballDoc</a> believes the Ohio State OT should sit out his Pro Day as he continues recovering from the torn patellar tendon he suffered in October. Watch his full breakdown...<br><br>Watch PFD Podcast: <a href="https://t.co/d8lK2lG9xX">https://t.co/d8lK2lG9xX</a> <a href="https://t.co/b7SxdXiBCq">pic.twitter.com/b7SxdXiBCq</a></p>&mdash; Sports Injury Central (@SICscore) <a href="https://twitter.com/SICscore/status/1898067110422605897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TwistedChief 04-24-2025 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18042478)
He just did. Historical data on the injury in the NFL doesn't change just because Veach or because Burkholder.

Veach admitted that Burkholder cringed when he first heard what the injury was. That should be telling. Burkholder's opinion is that the recovery "looks like a best-case scenario," but that doesn't mean that those odds suddenly disappear. It doesn't mean with absolution that he will work out to be a great player. Veach just has to damn well hope it is that best-case scenario that plays out in the end.

So your opinion is the odds don’t change after Burkholder examines him? Really?

And it needs to work out “with absolution”?

All higher upside players drafted at premium positions later in the first round are typically larger risks. FAU has contributed effectively 0. Kingsley one round later was a huge net negative.

There were dozens of people on this forum who probably would’ve been okay trading 2 1’s and 2 2’s to get into the top 10 to take a tackle like Campbell or Membou.

Would that have been much less risky for the future of this team?

Balto 04-24-2025 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18042474)
He played half a season against a non-con slate.

Wow.

Hear weeee goooooo

kccrow 04-24-2025 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 18042490)
False. This never happened. When he was drafted I sang his praises.

You're full of ****ing shit, as usual

Hammock Parties 04-24-2025 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18042494)
You're full of ****ing shit, as usual

Prove it. ROFL

FloridaMan88 04-24-2025 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18042478)
He just did. Historical data on the injury in the NFL doesn't change just because Veach or because Burkholder.

What is the sample size of previous offensive linemen sustaining this injury?

Otter 04-24-2025 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 18042495)
Prove it. ROFL

Feel free to use the link in my signature for a reference point.

In sniper mode tonight working on a AI model.

Balto 04-24-2025 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 18042495)
Prove it. ROFL

A study shows there is a 20% chance!

kccrow 04-24-2025 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 18042492)
So your opinion is the odds don’t change after Burkholder examines him? Really?

And it needs to work out “with absolution”?

All higher upside players drafted at premium positions later in the first round are typically larger risks. FAU has contributed effectively 0. Kingsley one round later was a huge net negative.

There were dozens of people on this forum who probably would’ve been okay trading 2 1’s and 2 2’s to get into the top 10 to take a tackle like Campbell or Membou.

Would that have been much less risky for the future of this team?

How does Burkholder examining him change the odds? As if he can somehow dictate that the kid's tendon will beat those odds just because it looks good?

I never said it needs to work out with absolution.

I have no issue with calculated risk. This exceeds normality on that front.

Thanks for pointing out Veach's misses when there aren't medical odds involved.

Balto 04-24-2025 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18042499)
What is the sample size of previous offensive linemen sustaining this injury?

At Simmons talent level…zero!

Katie 04-24-2025 11:11 PM

Point: What are the character concerns? I have never heard anything specific on that. Second point: Will anyone in the media really question their decision to draft this guy and give us their reasoning?


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