ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Football ****Official 2022 Free Agency Megathread**** (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=342942)

RealSNR 03-14-2022 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16190154)
Can't wait for Frank Clark to lose against third string OTs repeatedly next season while he makes almost $20 million.

Just cut your ****ing losses and move on.


This isn’t even a Justin Houston situation where you go, “Well, he’s fine, but not at that cap number. We need to reduce it or just cut him.”

Clark isn’t fine. He just sucks. He ****ing sucks. I wouldn’t want him back even if he played for free. Because every time he’s on the field, nothing happens. He doesn’t do anything. He can’t get jack shit for pressure even against the shitty backups he plays.

htismaqe 03-14-2022 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16190164)
Yeah, last year we should have cut Hitchens and used his $$$ on vet pass rush but...loyalty to a guy who wasn't good.

Cutting Hitchens last year wouldn't have netted any cap savings. This year was the year to cut him and reduce the dead cap hit.

chiefforlife 03-14-2022 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16190165)
If you do a full restructure....it only brings his cap hit down to $17 million according to OTC.

Keeping Clark makes no sense, not even if restructured. His play doesnt deserve anywhere near that kind of money.

Could they restructure it way down? Like 4-5 million salary? Not sure how this works?

The Franchise 03-14-2022 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16190175)
Keeping Clark makes no sense, not even if restructured. His play doesnt deserve anywhere near that kind of money.

Could they restructure it way down? Like 4-5 million salary? Not sure how this works?

That's a paycut.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2022 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16190173)
Cutting Hitchens last year wouldn't have netted any cap savings. This year was the year to cut him and reduce the dead cap hit.

No but it would’ve been neutral while simultaneously removing his 2022 dead money hit.

Keeping him was a mistake. As was restructuring Watkins and even discussing a restructure with Clark.

These coaches pets are becoming an issue.

MahomesMagic 03-14-2022 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16190173)
Cutting Hitchens last year wouldn't have netted any cap savings. This year was the year to cut him and reduce the dead cap hit.

Wrong.

I believe they would have saved 6 plus if they cut him by a certain date.

The Franchise 03-14-2022 11:07 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have been in contact with veteran OL Mike Remmers, who is continuing to recover from his knee surgery. <br><br>I’m told a handful teams also in the mix as free agency begins. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lombardo (@MattLombardoNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattLombardoNFL/status/1503416329583439873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 03-14-2022 11:07 AM

You guys spend way too much time worrying about this shit...

chiefforlife 03-14-2022 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16190177)
That's a paycut.

Yes, a deserved one. So you cant restructure a pay cut into a contract?

Is it ONLY shifting current money around? If so then you still have to cut him first which the dead money offsets any reduction which again makes no sense.

Hes GONE.

The Franchise 03-14-2022 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16190185)
Yes, a deserved one. So you cant restructure a pay cut into a contract?

Is it ONLY shifting current money around? If so then you still have to cut him first which the dead money offsets any reduction which again makes no sense.

Hes GONE.

Restructuring is just taking their base salary and converting it into a prorated bonus.

BryanBusby 03-14-2022 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16190183)
You guys spend way too much time worrying about this shit...

Right. Even the tweet said it was doubtful.

Frank Clark isn't blocking any moves yet.

Dante84 03-14-2022 11:12 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> have agreed to terms with one of their: Safety Quandre Diggs gets a 3-year deal worth $40M, source said. Seattle retains a key defender.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1503418534155763712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 03-14-2022 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16190185)
Yes, a deserved one. So you cant restructure a pay cut into a contract?

Is it ONLY shifting current money around? If so then you still have to cut him first which the dead money offsets any reduction which again makes no sense.

Hes GONE.

No - you could convert his $19 million base salary into a signing bonus and give him a 2-year extension for the league minimum over both years and effectively create a 2 yr contract for about $22 million with cap hits both years at around $14 million (as his prorated signing bonus would be on the cap from the previous contract.

duncan_idaho 03-14-2022 11:15 AM

Re: Clark, I think it's due diligence to see what is possible before you walk away.

He's a sunk cap cost of at least ~$7M this year, possible as much as ~$14M (rounding here because I'm lazy).

His next 2 seasons have high base salaries and low guarantees. So if you can work an EXTENSION that drastically changes the structure of those years, it does create at least an opportunity to get SOMETHING for those cap dollars.

It's a matter of whether he would accept that type of deal when Manny Ogbah is getting 4/65 on the open market.

It kicks the can on a player who has not been consistent or reliable for the Chiefs. I wouldn't do it. And I don't think they will. But I understand taking a look at it.

The Franchise 03-14-2022 11:17 AM

I'm going to need Clark to be greedy right now and tell the Chiefs to **** off. That way we can just cut his ass.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:00 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.