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oldman 02-25-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16163294)
When Belichick lost Brady, his team sucked. Clearly he's a shit coach who should be on the streets.

That's not what I said. The point I was making is that EB isn't responsible for our win in SB LIV. I'm not defending or opposing EB or any other coach. What I am saying is that it's a lot easier to win a SB when you have a PMII as your QB. Get good plays to Patrick in a timely fashion.

DaFace 02-25-2022 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16163474)
Bills fans - dumbest
Patriots - most toxic


Fix your shit, DaFace.

Funny. I don't recall hearing Bills fans clamoring to gut their coaching staff for no reason when Josh Allen had a rough game against the Chiefs, I don't recall Patriots players calling out their fans for having irrational expectations, and I don't recall Patriots fans ever stalking Brady's family and calling her out for being a normal human being.

I'm not sure if it's all Chiefs fans or just Chiefs fans online, but if I were a FA right now I'd have to seriously consider whether it's worth dealing with the bullshit from ungrateful fans.

ChiefBlueCFC 02-25-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16162614)
I like the Chiefs!

This is a message I can get behind

jd1020 02-25-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16163505)
Funny. I don't recall hearing Bills fans clamoring to gut their coaching staff for no reason when Josh Allen had a rough game against the Chiefs, I don't recall Patriots players calling out their fans for having irrational expectations, and I don't recall Patriots fans ever stalking Brady's family and calling her out for being a normal human being.

I'm not sure if it's all Chiefs fans or just Chiefs fans online, but if I were a FA right now I'd have to seriously consider whether it's worth dealing with the bullshit from ungrateful fans.

Cant say for sure about the Patriots, but the Bills board looked no different than this one post loss. Blaming the refs, wanting people fired (HC even, not just a puppet OC), etc...

rabblerouser 02-25-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16163505)
Funny. I don't recall hearing Bills fans clamoring to gut their coaching staff for no reason when Josh Allen had a rough game against the Chiefs, I don't recall Patriots players calling out their fans for having irrational expectations, and I don't recall Patriots fans ever stalking Brady's family and calling her out for being a normal human being.

I'm not sure if it's all Chiefs fans or just Chiefs fans online, but if I were a FA right now I'd have to seriously consider whether it's worth dealing with the bullshit from ungrateful fans.

1. It's not "gutting" a coaching staff when you just remove one piece of fatty cancer tissue. That's addition by subtraction.

2. Go cruise by the Bills forums and the Patriots forums sometime.

3. I thought all the Britney/Jackson hate is from Patriots fans/Barstool Sports...but admittedly, I don't keep up with all the latest from TMZ, maybe you can fill us in? Fix that shit, DaFace?

rabblerouser 02-25-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16163516)
Cant say for sure about the Patriots, but the Bills board looked no different than this one post loss. Blaming the refs, wanting people fired (HC even, not just a puppet OC), etc...

Yeah, DaFace needs to fix his shit and go check out some other cesspools...make him happy to have this one.

Wisconsin_Chief 02-25-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 16163513)
This is a message I can get behind

I was actually just thinking this before I logged in this morning.

I thought “Well hey, I like the Kansas City Chiefs organization so I suppose I’ll check out the popular cesspool message forum known as Chiefs Planet.”

True story.

ChiefBlueCFC 02-25-2022 09:28 AM

Can you make it so when certain users post in a thread Brittney Spears Toxic plays

rabblerouser 02-25-2022 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16163495)
Because there's no Oz just pulling the strings behind the scenes based on relationships and optics.

https://dailysnark.com/wp-content/up...sports02-1.jpg

dtrain 02-25-2022 09:33 AM

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2022/02/...hiefs-actions/

In some ways, the doubts swirling around Eric Bieniemy were understandable for a hot minute.

In his fourth offseason in the National Football League as the Chiefs offensive coordinator, Bieniemy had experienced even fewer invites to the tables of respective organizations than in previous years—with only the Denver Broncos and New Orleans Saints as officially interested in him as a potential head coaching candidate. And once again, those teams decided to go in another direction when all was said and done.

When a person tries to do anything 15 or so times and fails, it’s natural to wonder if he will ever be able to do so. And so the doubts set in about Eric Bieniemy. As we said, it’s understandable—at least to a point.
Any naysayers of Eric Bieniemy’s value to the Kansas City Chiefs were proven wrong with the team’s decision to welcome him back.

Here’s the thing about Bieniemy’s case, however. No one outside of those interview rooms, no one situated outside of Arrowhead Stadium ever knew of anything factually off or wrong about Bieniemy. We just knew that he seemed overqualified compared to some candidates and yet unable to get a job. That’s all that was known.

It was at this point that assumptions were made, and the naysayers began to fill in the blanks on their own.

Suddenly, Bieniemy has an interview problem despite the dozens of public-facing interviews Bieniemy has over the years with Chiefs media or other types, displaying his confidence and knowledge and charisma. .
Suddenly, Bieniemy has no real impact on the team’s offense while others blame him for the offensive downfalls in the postseason, especially the second-half meltdown. One side wants to give him no credit and the other side only wants him to take credit for the team’s failures.
Suddenly, Bieniemy’s background is too toxic for teams to handle even as other candidates with troubled pasts have no problem scoring new gigs.

Most recently, there were concerns expressed among fans that Bieniemy was toxic even for the Chiefs and that a divorce was inevitable. Suddenly, Bieniemy was now at odds with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. Suddenly, the offensive pillars were all frustrated with one another. Odd sources were quoted and sideline interactions were interpreted.

For all the naysaying, however, actions speak louder than words and with a single choice, the Chiefs expressed the reality of the situation. They brought back Eric Bieniemy when they didn’t have to.

Bieniemy’s contract was up this offseason and both sides could have easily sidestepped the other if they wanted to spend some time apart. If Bieniemy felt like his own progress was thwarted by the Chiefs’ success, he could have chased other opportunities either with a lateral move or a head coaching role at the collegiate level or even by taking a year away to see what better opportunities opened up.

For the Chiefs, if Bieniemy had somehow turned toxic or, even worse, inept, after a decade on the sidelines in Kansas City, with an offense that had averaged 36 points per game through the postseason, they could have walked away. And Bieniemy could have saved face by claiming he wanted to try something new. Everyone would have understood. No one would have looked bad. It was the ideal timing for a divorce—if either side had ever wanted such a thing.

By welcoming back Bieniemy for another season—his 10th with Reid—the Chiefs proved Bieniemy’s naysayers wrong. Suddenly, the clouds over his ability to make decisions, to handle calls, to get along with staff or players, or to provide value or fresh perspective to the offense were all lifted. For a team that had made it to four straight conference championship games, Bieniemy was a guy they wanted back.

While there is still a lot that we don’t know at this point—namely, why NFL franchises continue to spurn Bieniemy’s attempts at getting a head coaching gig—what we do know is that Bieniemy’s naysayers have little to hold onto.

Not that they had ever had anything to substance to begin with.

DaFace 02-25-2022 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16163519)
1. It's not "gutting" a coaching staff when you just remove one piece of fatty cancer tissue. That's addition by subtraction.

Do you not realize how dumb this sounds? What actual justification do you have for this other than a giant pile of steaming dinosaur shit belched out by some of the most overinflated egos in the entire Chiefs fanbase?

The players love EB. The coaches love EB. Clark loves EB. There is literally zero evidence that he's anything other than a key piece of our team.

Go back to screaming about how rigged the game is. It's a better look than taking your misplaced anger out on a guy that you've chosen to be your scapegoat because you just can't handle the idea that it's possible for your star QB to have a bad game once in a while.

rabblerouser 02-25-2022 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16163495)
This is such a stupid argument. Both of those people had success in their prior roles. That's typically a prerequisite to be poached by other organizations, and that's true in any field. Regardless of the relationships they have.

What world do you live in that you can't see that's pretty standard? I see this every single day in my industry.

It's called a meritocracy. And it's exactly why EB didn't get a head coaching job.

Ah, yes. You're basically describing a tendency in most organizational hierarchies, for every employee to rise in the hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence.

You're describing the ****ing peter principle, TC.


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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16163381)
The peter principle? Which is something that applies to basic, tired, bureaucratic corporations who just keep promoting average and borderline competent people because that's the general upward drift of a career?

You seriously think the Chiefs coaching ranks are like that? It's just any old job? Performance doesn't matter?

This doesn't remotely align with the peter principle.


Reread this whole sequence, and do better.

rabblerouser 02-25-2022 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16163541)
Do you not realize how dumb this sounds? What actual justification do you have for this other than a giant pile of steaming dinosaur shit belched out by some of the most overinflated egos in the entire Chiefs fanbase?

The players love EB. The coaches love EB. Clark loves EB. There is literally zero evidence that he's anything other than a key piece of our team.

Go back to screaming about how rigged the game is. It's a better look than taking your misplaced anger out on a guy that you've chosen to be your scapegoat because you just can't handle the idea that it's possible for your star QB to have a bad game once in a while.

ROFL
LMAO

If it's not rigged, then someone's head should've rolled for that.

Thank you.

Bearcat 02-25-2022 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16163519)
1. It's not "gutting" a coaching staff when you just remove one piece of fatty cancer tissue. That's addition by subtraction.

Yeah, but that opinion around here is largely based off a fan fiction piece that clearly overstepped and made a mountain out of potential arguments between coaches and players.

It's just like the TMZ-like barstool BS, seeing Mahomes and his girlfriend at a game, she makes a weird face, and OMG she's such a bitch, poor Mahomes!!!


And now that he's retained, people are simply moving forward with the narrative like the fan fiction piece was true all along... well, it must be true he's a useless piece of shit, so uh, Reid must be THAT loyal and uh, optics!

It's strange how people can't simply say they were wrong when we learn new things.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2022 09:37 AM

we're going to go around and around like this until a camera catches someone shoving EB or Mahomes bitching


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