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Lzen 07-27-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8770877)
I think they are, but not by much

They lost their starting center and playing a rookie there that has absolutey zero experience snapping balls in the NFL

They have a new OC- one that might possibly be as bad in his job as Cassell is, if that were ever possible

New HC

They lost Eric Carr and replaced him with the lead league penalty CB

Nobody knows exactly how well Charles is recovering-it appears Berry is on a faster recovering track than Charles

But as was mentioned before- The Chiefs defense was actually better last year when Berry was out than it was when he was playing in 2010

Much tougher schedule

To many question marks on the coaching staff

And finally

Matt Cassell -

I'd be surprised if the Chiefs won 2 of their 1st 6 games- that's a brutal 6 game stretch- I think the writers of KC will go to town on that team by week 7.. calling for Stanzi, is Crennell "over his head"?? etc.. they'll have a field day with the Chiefs in the press and it might take the wind outta that team by week 7 to effectively rebound by then

1-5 heading into the bye

- Rodney Hudson is not a rookie. He played some last year. And he actually played better than Weigman.

- Eric Carr? I didn't realize the former Kiss drummer was a free agent. But seriously, yeah, that could be an issue. I think it's a drop in talent, but not as much as some may believe.

- Chiefs defense got into a groove down the stretch of the season last year, but they were terrible early on. And even in November against Denver, they were not good. Making Houston the starter was a major improvement. Also, remember that Berry was a rookie in 2010. He is a veteran now and that should only help, IMO. Still, I would like to see a statistical comparison to prove that you're not just talking out of your butt.

- I would agree about the question marks on the coaching staff. But I don't believe anyone (not you or anybody else) knows for sure how that's gonna work out. So that's not a real argument, IMO.

MagicHef 07-27-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8771336)
You have to account for facing a vastly increased level of competition, though.

This team, with our present starting QB, played 4 winning teams the last two years. And lost to nearly all of them?

We're in for a giant ****ing wake up call.

4 winning teams out of 32 games? How is that even possible?

I did the same for the 2011 Broncos vs 2012 Broncos:

Tebow->Manning +44
Fells->Dreessen +23.2
Bunkley->Bannan -15.3

I'm very excited for this season.

lcarus 07-27-2012 12:04 PM

Manning's arm looks like my grandma's neck. Good luck with that.

Titty Meat 07-27-2012 12:14 PM

Manning can't comeback from injury but Charles, Moaki, and Berry can. Makes sense.

Brock 07-27-2012 12:19 PM

dude looks old.

vailpass 07-27-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8771685)
Manning's arm looks like my grandma's neck. Good luck with that.

Matt Cassell.

lcarus 07-27-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8771754)
Matt Cassell.

will hand the ball off to Charles and Hillis all day and we'll win

vailpass 07-27-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8771804)
will hand the ball off to Charles and Hillis all day and we'll win

You guys gonna' wear leather helmets and dropkick the extra point too?

Red Beans 07-27-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8771710)
Manning can't comeback from injury but Charles, Moaki, and Berry can. Makes sense.

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-King- 07-27-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8771710)
Manning can't comeback from injury but Charles, Moaki, and Berry can. Makes sense.

Recovering from an ACL tear in your early 20s>> recovering from 4(or was it 5?) neck surgeries in your late 30s

MagicHef 07-27-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8771917)
Recovering from an ACL tear in your early 20s>> recovering from 4(or was it 5?) neck surgeries in your late 30s

It's not his neck that is even a possible problem. It's his arm strength that is the issue, due to the pinched nerve. The nerve didn't get pinched in the 2010-2011 offseason, Manning has actually been playing with the pinched nerve since probably 2009. Pretending that he will play worse now that he has had the issue addressed than he did when it was bothering him the most is silly.

Marcellus 07-27-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8771917)
Recovering from an ACL tear in your early 20s>> recovering from 4(or was it 5?) neck surgeries in your late 30s

This has already been covered in another thread. Billay is trying to be OTWP who is the person who originally made that statement.

Ted Theodore Logan 07-27-2012 01:13 PM

Are they ever gonna send a pass rush at him...

stonedstooge 07-27-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 8771940)
It's not his neck that is even a possible problem. It's his arm strength that is the issue, due to the pinched nerve. The nerve didn't get pinched in the 2010-2011 offseason, Manning has actually been playing with the pinched nerve since probably 2009. Pretending that he will play worse now that he has had the issue addressed than he did when it was bothering him the most is silly.

Fixing the site of the problem doesn't ensure that the nerve will regenerate and function at 100% again.

Quesadilla Joe 07-27-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8771917)
Recovering from an ACL tear in your early 20s>> recovering from 4(or was it 5?) neck surgeries in your late 30s

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...annings-injury

Watch the video. The neck is not an issue. He will not suffer a neck injury. The only concern was nerve regeneration. The nerves have regenerated. Peyton Manning is back.


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