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Mosbonian 09-18-2011 09:54 PM

You know what is really fun......watching how all the speculation has changed so much in this thread.

It would be fun to have some stat geek actually plot the movement of the rumors of each school.

SPchief 09-18-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7922880)
Please Please Please Please pick us!

FYP

ChiefsCountry 09-18-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 7922932)
Please, MU, KU, KSU are all better fits for the B1G than ISU. Of those four, MU is the best fit, and I would put KU a distant second, with KSU and ISU way behind both of them.

Iowa State is way better in academics than Kansas State. Not to mention its a better school than both Kansas and Nebraska. Only Texas, A&M, and Missouri are ahead of Iowa State in the B1G academically.

HolyHandgernade 09-18-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7922951)
You know what is really fun......watching how all the speculation has changed so much in this thread.

It would be fun to have some stat geek actually plot the movement of the rumors of each school.

The "Chatter Movement" Graph

Bambi 09-18-2011 09:55 PM

Lets do this!

RustShack 09-18-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 7922932)
Please, MU, KU, KSU are all better fits for the B1G than ISU. Of those four, MU is the best fit, and I would put KU a distant second, with KSU and ISU way behind both of them.

Do tell. Do you even know what the B1G looks for?

LiveSteam 09-18-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7922958)
Do tell. Do you even know what the B1G looks for?

Not ISU

DeezNutz 09-18-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 7922936)
But you make it into whatever you want. You have no idea what you are talking about.

You still haven't answered the question I've asked you twice: how are funds for research acquired?

Meanwhile, you're talking in circles and conflating points.

My point about the CIC and the tangible draw for schools affiliated with it stands on its own.

LiveSteam 09-18-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7922961)
You still haven't answered the question I've asked you twice: how are funds for research acquired?

GOV grants I think

DeezNutz 09-18-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7922953)
Iowa State is way better in academics than Kansas State. Not to mention its a better school than both Kansas and Nebraska. Only Texas, A&M, and Missouri are ahead of Iowa State in the B1G academically.

I would put ISU on par with KSU; these are very comparable institutions.

HolyHandgernade 09-18-2011 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7922953)
Iowa State is way better in academics than Kansas State. Not to mention its a better school than both Kansas and Nebraska. Only Texas, A&M, and Missouri are ahead of Iowa State in the B1G academically.

Yes, but does ISU have a brand new billion dollar grant? Also, it isn't just about arbitrary college rankings, its also about brand recognition once you get past the relatively same athletics profile. You have to have something to sell, that's why these conferences have all this money to hand out. ISU has some of the best fans in the world, but the Cyclone brand just isn't that strong. Whether football or basketball, who gets excited to hear "the Cyclones are coming to town?"

HolyHandgernade 09-18-2011 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7922963)
GOV grants I think

That's correct. Most grants are Federal grants. Almost all medical breakthroughs are done by universities through Federal research grants. The drug companies just capitalize on it. Federal Grant money is the true lifeblood of the top academic research schools. It dwarfs anything State BOR or sports affiliations give it.

alnorth 09-18-2011 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7922943)
Yes, but Syracuse and Pitt had something that KU and KSU didn't: large TV markets. It wasn't likely those two schools were going to be without a spot at the dinner table. They could afford to keep a low profile.

I'm not saying Pitt and Syracuse aren't more desirable, I am saying that the lack of public talk out of a school is irrelevant, since there is almost never a good reason to reveal what you are doing and plenty of reasons not to.

|Zach| 09-18-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7922956)
Lets do this!

Do what? I thought this wasn't happening AlwaysWrongenson.

HolyHandgernade 09-18-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7922978)
I'm not saying Pitt and Syracuse aren't more desirable, I am saying that the lack of public talk out of a school is irrelevant, since there is almost never a good reason to reveal what you are doing and plenty of reasons not to.

I'll buy that. Let me just say this, then. The KU statements about these realignments has been very low key and confident that KU will be OK when its all over. Maybe that's just painting a "brave face", but KSU and MU have basically taken the same stance, giving the "we hope the Big XII stays together, that is the best option" speech.


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