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Molitoth 09-19-2021 09:32 PM

Anyone mentioning Sutton is an idiot. That said, this one one of spags worst game plans and adjustments.

KCUnited 09-19-2021 09:32 PM

And the weeks before?

Frazod 09-19-2021 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan (Post 15843991)
Jeez. One loss and you guys are on suicide watch. Anyone saying Sutton over spags need to take a long walk off a short pier.

Relax. We got this.

At this point comparing Sutton to Spagnuolo is like comparing herpes to AIDS. Nobody here wants either one.

Too much talent on defense for them to play this bad.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-19-2021 09:46 PM

It's no secret that the Chiefs have had serious problems stopping the run since before Spagnuolo arrived. Mahomes has been so good that teams have quickly abandoned the run to play catch up (even Baltimore has done this at inexplicable moments in the past). He certainly hasn't fixed the run defense, and moving Jones more to an exclusive DE role may have reduced his effectiveness in a manner not unlike how Gunther once limited Derrick Thomas.

The defense does not lack for talent in back half. This isn't a 2002 type situation where you look across the roster and see very few players who would start on an even average defense.

While I've never been a fan of Spagnuolo, who I felt succeeded because he had three Pro Bowl pass rushers and another good one all at once, he's also faced likely two of the three best run offenses in the league so far. I think that they may be better off playing a less aggressive style of defense where the lineman work on maintaining better gap discipline so that they force teams to face the strength of the defense-the secondary.

TEX 09-19-2021 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15844094)
At this point comparing Sutton to Spagnuolo is like comparing herpes to AIDS. Nobody here wants either one.

Too much talent on defense for them to play this bad.

True....Not at LB there isn't.

New World Order 09-19-2021 09:55 PM

The run d will improve. It’s the pass rush I’m worried about

suzzer99 09-19-2021 09:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are spending 25% of their 2021 cap on the defensive line. That is the highest percentage in the league. Only 5 other teams are over *18%.*<br><br>The defensive line has a combined 3 TFL through the first two games. Not what you&#39;re looking for!</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1439798208755085312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is ... not good

Easy 6 09-19-2021 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15844279)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are spending 25% of their 2021 cap on the defensive line. That is the highest percentage in the league. Only 5 other teams are over *18%.*<br><br>The defensive line has a combined 3 TFL through the first two games. Not what you&#39;re looking for!</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1439798208755085312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is ... not good

Jones is, apparently, our only real weapon up there

Honestly don’t expect much of Clark anymore… but Nnadi, Reed, Saunders and Wharton were all guilty as well

None of them stood out against the run, which is where their supposed strength lies… bunch of soft bitches

Mecca 09-19-2021 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15844370)
Jones is, apparently, our only real weapon up there

Honestly don’t expect much of Clark anymore… but Nnadi, Reed, Saunders and Wharton were all guilty as well

None of them stood out against the run, which is where their supposed strength lies… bunch of soft bitches

For some reason Nnadi gets alot of praise yet the run d has sucked the whole time he's been here.

Titty Meat 09-19-2021 10:07 PM

Theres 15 more weeks the 2019 defense wasnt good til November. Calm down.

O.city 09-19-2021 10:07 PM

Run d is about the whole unit playing fundamentally sound.

They don’t do that

Easy 6 09-19-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844381)
For some reason Nnadi gets alot of praise yet the run d has sucked the whole time he's been here.

Couldn’t possibly agree more, I’m good and tired of hearing about what a rock he is

Pasta Little Brioni 09-19-2021 10:16 PM

Baltimore can run on anybody, it's the poor tackling that gave them cheap yards on every possession that did them in. He'll, Clete helped us for once and put them in some tough down and distances with cheap calls and we still ****ed it up.

suzzer99 09-19-2021 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15844370)
Jones is, apparently, our only real weapon up there

Honestly don’t expect much of Clark anymore… but Nnadi, Reed, Saunders and Wharton were all guilty as well

None of them stood out against the run, which is where their supposed strength lies… bunch of soft bitches

Nnadi is still nursing something. They have him on a pitch count.

HonestChieffan 09-20-2021 07:23 AM

Was good to see a Sutton game plan again. But that was enough. Hope Spags has time to maybe study some film of the other teams before we start the game from now on.


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