We've said this for a couple years now, but Pat at a point needs to understand that he plays the game and the coaches coach it.

He doesn't decide who's running the routes and he doesn't need to worry about if they're gonna actually catch the ball.

Now IF Moore is out there ****ing routes up in practice and Mahomes has taken him out of the progression because short routes that get messed up turn into pick 6s very quickly - okay, I can handle that.

But the 'well he's worried the guy's gonna drop it' stuff - man, he's gotta let that go. Over a large enough sample size these guys will fix the glitch or hit the bench. In the interim, if they're where they're supposed to be, when they're supposed to be there - throw 'em the ball. If they drop it, that's on them.

Now I'm not 100% convinced Moore is where he's supposed to be. In fact I think there's a real chance he isn't. But that's a story for another day I guess. But I think that HAS to be the crux of the issue. Because Mahomes doesn't even look at him. Open or not, it doesn't matter because Mahomes just doesn't really care.

Something is there. Cause the guy is open. They had guys open everywhere.

Pat looked off to me, but apparently I'm holding him to a higher standard than I should.

Hutchinson deserves credit... he applied a lot of pressure. Mahomes did Mahomes things and avoided sacks, but he was affected.

Can you blame him? The WR's were all disasters outside of MVS and Watson.

Toney dropped the ball on 1/4 of his targets, Skyy dropped passes and Richie James wasn't running routes correctly.

If MVS and Watson are the only two he trusts, they might want to target them more than 6 times combined in a game. What did MVS have, 2 targets all game?

Again, if we're giving Skyy drops on those.......I dunno what we're doing here. 2 of them are really tough catches (the first didn't need to be if Pat threw it when he was actually open) and the slant in the redzone was behind him.

He definitely played well.

Makes me really want one of those top 5 DE's.

Let's just split the difference and say he had zero catches in a game where he played more snaps than any other WR and we desperately needed him to step up.

I agree. Definitely gotta be better.

I'm not saying he was good enough. It's gotta be better. I'm by no means a big Skyy fan either, but I just hate shitting on a guy when it may not really have been his issue.

I was wondering about this. You can't tell without the all 22.

Was anyone else at the game? Was he getting separation or what?

I dunno, but quite a few people on ChiefsPlanet.com say that he wasn't going open. It's quite a reliable source of information, so I'd trust what they say.

Mahomes was burned for (I believe two picks) last year on account of Moore running the route incorrectly, so I always wonder if that's in the back of his head?

From section 211 it looked like there were guys getting open.

Toney averaged 3 yards of separation on his targets. So....catch the ball and you're fine.

Yes, but quite a few other people are saying he wasn't so I dunno.

DJ what did you see?