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RealSNR 01-13-2009 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5384551)
Sure why not, he has already set this franchise back 2-3 years, what is the difference if he ****s it up for another year...

Nothing good can come from Herm being on the sidelines next year, it futher hurts the talent and youth on this team... No way Pioli, a successful VP, will come to KC and be forced to keep Herm... Pioli has been surround by success... There inst anything about Herm that remotely mentions success, unless his cock holster, which he runs freely, is considered successful.

I've observed your posting style over the years. I notice that you never have anything fresh or entertaining to say. I've never laughed at any of your jokes, if you had any at all. I've never read a football take of yours and said, "say, now that's interesting. I'll have to think about that." I've also never seen you post anything apart from Herm/Clark hate when you are discussing football.

We get it. Herm is a bad coach, and Carl made a lot of poor decisions that prevented us from moving foward as a successful franchise. That's the opinion shared by 90% of the members on this BB. Are you trying to prove a point or what? Because most people already ****ing get it.

kobebehar 01-13-2009 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5384577)
I've observed your posting style over the years. I notice that you never have anything fresh or entertaining to say. I've never laughed at any of your jokes, if you had any at all. I've never read a football take of yours and said, "say, now that's interesting. I'll have to think about that." I've also never seen you post anything apart from Herm/Clark hate when you are discussing football.

We get it. Herm is a bad coach, and Carl made a lot of poor decisions that prevented us from moving foward as a successful franchise. That's the opinion shared by 90% of the members on this BB. Are you trying to prove a point or what? Because most people already ****ing get it.

Herm's an awesome coach, d00d. What are you talking about?

RealSNR 01-13-2009 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5384579)
Herm's an awesome coach, d00d. What are you talking about?

You're probably right. I hear he took the Jets to the playoffs more times than any other coach in that team's history. That's pretty good.

HES A WINNAR ANDA FIGHTER AND I LIKE HIM DAMN IT

kobebehar 01-13-2009 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5384581)
You're probably right. I hear he took the Jets to the playoffs more times than any other coach in that team's history. That's pretty good.

HES A WINNAR ANDA FIGHTER AND I LIKE HIM DAMN IT

That's very good, they're a storied franchise...... 'member Namath?

RealSNR 01-13-2009 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5384582)
That's very good, they're a storied franchise...... 'member Namath?

Namath. He won a Super Bowl. Led his team to victory like a field general. He put the team on his shoulders and won the game against the odds. He could have thrown for 5 INTs, but that wouldn't have mattered because his team WON. And because his team WON that means he did it, because the QB is the leader. If he threw 5 INTs and his team won, that means he won IN SPITE of throwing for 5 INTs, which makes him an even better QB than guys who win big games and put up great numbers.

kobebehar 01-13-2009 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5384585)
Namath. He won a Super Bowl. Led his team to victory like a field general. He put the team on his shoulders and won the game against the odds. He could have thrown for 5 INTs, but that wouldn't have mattered because his team WON. And because his team WON that means he did it, because the QB is the leader. If he threw 5 INTs and his team won, that means he won IN SPITE of throwing for 5 INTs, which makes him an even better QB than guys who win big games and put up great numbers.

EZZAKLY!

QBs that win by playing well are dime a dozen. Winning by virtue of your sheer ability to just ****ing win, that takes a man. a winning man. With each pick a winner throws, he just is taxing that well of raw winner deep in his gut all the more.

RealSNR 01-13-2009 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5384586)
EZZAKLY!

QBs that win by playing well are dime a dozen. Winning by virtue of your sheer ability to just ****ing win, that takes a man. a winning man. With each pick a winner throws, he just is taxing that well of raw winner deep in his gut all the more.

Yep.

You know the winningest QB over the past three seasons with the Chiefs?

Damon Huard.

That guy clearly is the best QB on the roster because he knows how to win. He needs to be starting next season, because clearly Croyle and Thigpen with their poor records are less talented players. Huard gives us the best chance to win.

Unless we trade for Matt Cassell. That guy knows how to win. He doesn't care that he's the backup behind a future HOF... he just went in and led the team to victories.

i'mgonnacumi'mgonnacumi'mgonnacumi'mgonnacumi'mgonnacum

The Bad Guy 01-13-2009 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5384456)
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/977828-p2.html

Chiefs go about their business as GM hunt goes on
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Whether it’s Scott Pioli or someone else, the next Chiefs general manager might have to wait a while before he’s in his new job.

Interim president/general manager Denny Thum, who is assisting chairman Clark Hunt in the selection process, said Hunt hopes to hire a general manager before the Super Bowl, which is Feb. 1.

Hunt has interviewed Pioli, New England’s vice president for player personnel, and others. Hunt could interview as many as 10 candidates before he’s finished.

In the meantime, the Chiefs are going about business as usual. They recently signed several players, including quarterback Ingle Martin on Monday, to fill out the bottom of their roster.

The Chiefs have started preparing for free-agency, which begins in late February, and the April draft. They will have the third pick, their highest selection since choosing Nebraska defensive end Neil Smith with the second choice in 1988.

The uncertainty, which includes a most tenuous future for Herm Edwards and his coaching staff, makes these processes difficult.

“That’s for sure,” Thum said. “As far as specific direction with free-agency and the draft, until we hire a general manager, what we’re trying to do is cover all the bases.

“But our preparation hasn’t stopped. (Vice president) Bill Kuharich and his staff are getting ready for the draft. All of our scouts have left for the East-West practices and will go straight on to the Senior Bowl practices next week. (Pro personnel director) Ray Farmer is continuing to evaluate the waiver wire. Things are still going on. We’re moving forward.”

Thum joined the Chiefs 25 years ago as an accountant. He eventually worked his way to executive vice president with responsibilities for most of the business functions, including management of the salary cap and negotiation of player contracts.

He is the leading candidate to become Chiefs president, who will handle the business affairs. The general manager will oversee the football operation.

No matter the general manager, Thum indicated the Chiefs will be more active this year in free-agency. They gutted their roster after last season, and the few free agents signed by the Chiefs were low-impact starters or backups.

“We hope to continue to draft well,” Thum said. “But then you also hope to have some (veteran) players you can bring in that can fill specific roles and add a little more leadership on the football field. When you have a team as young as ours and you start looking around for answers on the field and everybody is about the same age as you, that makes it difficult.”

Thum met recently with Kuharich, Farmer, Edwards and coordinators Chan Gailey and Gunther Cunningham to evaluate the roster. He said he was affected by the strong improvement of many of the rookies as the season progressed.

He mentioned by name offensive lineman Branden Albert and cornerbacks Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr and Maurice Leggett — but not the Chiefs’ top draft pick, defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey.

“A lot of young players made a lot of growth throughout the season,” he said. “If you look at the first part of the season to the second half of the season, offensively we did some things better. Defensively, we still had some issues, but there were certain players that stepped up and played better.”

“It was very insightful. We still know there are areas we need to fill, but the coaching staff gave a good evaluation. It gives me a good feel as we start to look toward free-agency as far as areas of need. This is something that when the new GM is hired, I’ll be able to share with him.”

Edwards and the assistant coaches have been in limbo since the season ended on Dec. 28 with a 16-6 loss to the Bengals in Cincinnati. Hunt said the Chiefs would decide whether to retain Edwards and the staff once the general manager is hired.

Edwards is not free to make any staff changes, and the assistants were, at least until recently, not free to look for other jobs. But the Chiefs granted Houston’s request to interview secondary coach David Gibbs.

It’s unclear whether the Gibbs interview represents a policy change that allows Chiefs coaches to look for other jobs or whether it’s a one-shot deal. Gibbs has ties to the Texans. He once worked in Denver with head coach Gary Kubiak. His father, Alex, is a Houston assistant coach.

Either way, Edwards and the assistant coaches are still employed by the Chiefs.

Asked whether being placed in such a situation for a prolonged period was fair to Edwards and the other coaches, Thum said, “I would hope when we hire the new general manager, we can go through the evaluation process as quickly as possible.”

It makes no sense to wait until after the SB if Pioli is your main target.

I want the GM in place so HIS scouts can go to the east west game. I don't want Kuharick and Herm's merry band of morons impacting this franchise another day.

I'm going to make the assumption that if Kokonis and DeCosta were targets, they were already interviewed. Unless they are the guys, what is the sense to wait until after February 1st?

ChiefsGirl 01-13-2009 06:40 AM

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

beach tribe 01-13-2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsGirl (Post 5384626)
Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

Maybe you didn't get the memo. This is just dumb now.

Fritz88 01-13-2009 07:03 AM

Don't know if this is a repost:

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/1...te-still-no-sc

Morning Update (Still No Scott Pioli News Edition)

Arrowhead_pride_tiny by Chris on Jan 13, 2009 6:19 AM CST in Article Updates

Chiefs News

* Even without a GM, the Kansas City Chiefs are still plugging along- "All of our scouts have left for the East-West practices and will go straight on to the Senior Bowl practices next week. (Pro personnel director) Ray Farmer is continuing to evaluate the waiver wire."
* Arrowhead Addict is talking about coaching retreads in the NFL.
* WPI puts together a long article about the Chiefs' Interim GM/President Denny Thum.
* The only mock draft databases you need to know- Walter Football, Hail Redskins and NFL Mocks. Let's drop any Brian Orakpo being drafted by the Chiefs talk too. Not that there's been much of it. It's just that the guy has no business in the top five, let alone the top ten of this year's draft.
* I found that clip about Demorrio Williams and harness racing that everyone was looking for.
* Here's a really cool 1969 Super Bowl graphic for those looking for a cool screensaver or desktop background.
* What helped the Chiefs win their first Super Bowl? Gatorade.

AFC West News

* The Denver Post catches us up with a time line of the Broncos' head coach search.
* This will piss off Chiefs' fans eventually- New Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels will wear a hoodie on the sideline, ala Bill Belichick.
* The Sports Guru continues to be a go-to-guy for the local Denver media on the Broncos' head coach hire (Skip to the 3:00 mark to see him). Awesome work Guru! I wish the KC media was as open and welcoming as Denver's.

Other NFL News

* The Dolphins won't make any moves at QB, aside from a possible (I stress possible) trade of QB John Beck. UC brought up Beck to the Chiefs back in August.
* Real Clear Sports has the Top 10 Worst Super Bowl teams. Not winners but teams that made the big game. The 2000 Giants were the first to come to my mind.
* The ESPN ombudsman takes the network to task on a couple of issues.

We're still waiting on Scott Pioli news. And it's killing me. We'll have more coming up later today. The off season will start in force once we figure out who our new GM is.

Fritz88 01-13-2009 07:07 AM

Could Hunt be playing the Pioli card to distract the media while he's aiming at something else

Jerm 01-13-2009 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 5384637)
Could Hunt be playing the Pioli card to distract the media while he's aiming at something else

Nah, I don't think Pioli would go along with that...he'd come out and decline that he was going to K.C. if it were all a smokescreen.

EyePod 01-13-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 5383076)
Presumably you mean crushed emotionally.

That game is likely the worst loss I'll ever have to deal with as a sports fan. :shake:

Yes. It was so sweet on my side though.

EyePod 01-13-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5383112)
CP didn't wheel and deal with regard to the draft? Moving up for Gonzo, down for LJ, trading a 1st for Green, dealing JA.

I still love his JA move, although it was only viable because CP is such a dick that JA didn't even want to sign with us.


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