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cabletech94 07-24-2024 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17598631)
But clearly you get the internet.

“What the **** is the internet”? Jay, of Jay & Silent Bob.

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Reroka 07-24-2024 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17598631)
But clearly you get the internet.

Yes, and I see they are in 3rd place in div,

I was more wondering about the stadium and the viewpoint of people who have attended the games.

srvy 07-24-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Reroka (Post 17598660)
Yes, and I see they are in 3rd place in div,

I was more wondering about the stadium and the viewpoint of people who have attended the games.

Maybe you could fly your 700.00 drone that you could have bought for less than 200.00 over the stadium. Or is that cheap Chinese junk in the trash heap now?

How's that wannabe biker backassward trike doing ya?

BWillie 07-24-2024 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17598193)
He's so big and so long and his legs are so strong (from all the pitching training). I think his ability to hit pitches he chases and strike them well could possibly surpass Perez's.

God damn it now I am too excited. If they do decide to just have him hit (which I ultimately think the Royals will sooner than later) when is he estimated to hit the majors?

BWillie 07-24-2024 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17598240)
I really don't get why Jac Caglianone only has a 70 power grade on a few sites. The guy hit a 516 ft HR. He had 9 straight games with a HR. If he's not an 80 power guy to some publications, then idk who is.

I heard one scout say they would have him at 80 power but they are worried about his chase rate vs professional pitching. If this was the 90's nobody would give a shit about his chase rate. I get worried about chase rate more when guys can't hit baseballs. Like Pratto and Melendez have decent power, but they just don't have the elite skill to put bat on the ball. Caglianone has the potential to do that. We all hope he becomes more patient and nukes what he knows he can hit but it's worked for Salvy despite the patience.

WilliamTheIrish 07-24-2024 11:13 AM

Happy 41st Pine Tar Day, boys.

dlphg9 07-24-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17599042)
I heard one scout say they would have him at 80 power but they are worried about his chase rate vs professional pitching. If this was the 90's nobody would give a shit about his chase rate. I get worried about chase rate more when guys can't hit baseballs. Like Pratto and Melendez have decent power, but they just don't have the elite skill to put bat on the ball. Caglianone has the potential to do that. We all hope he becomes more patient and nukes what he knows he can hit but it's worked for Salvy despite the patience.

What scout was that, cuz that makes them sound dumb as shit. His chase rate shouldn't have any influence on his power rating though. Use that chase rate to lower his hit rate, but to say his power isn't at the top of the charts because he chases pitches is ridiculous.

Also, last year looks like he got a lot better at avoiding strikeouts. He only had 26 Ks vs 27 actual walks (31 of his walks were intentional.

His ****ing power numbers are literally insane over his collegiate career, which was basically a full MLB season worth of games

165 games - 75 HRs and 28 2Bs. That's just shy of a HR every other game.

I'm so excited about this kid.

duncan_idaho 07-24-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17599032)
God damn it now I am too excited. If they do decide to just have him hit (which I ultimately think the Royals will sooner than later) when is he estimated to hit the majors?

He could be a 2025 debut guy if they sent him on an aggressive assignment (at least High-A to start) and had him perform so well he got at least a cup of coffee at AA. It's really about how he acclimates and how fast he shows he is ready to move up.

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17599042)
I heard one scout say they would have him at 80 power but they are worried about his chase rate vs professional pitching. If this was the 90's nobody would give a shit about his chase rate. I get worried about chase rate more when guys can't hit baseballs. Like Pratto and Melendez have decent power, but they just don't have the elite skill to put bat on the ball. Caglianone has the potential to do that. We all hope he becomes more patient and nukes what he knows he can hit but it's worked for Salvy despite the patience.

Grades get weird... I think the most accurate scouts use a present/future rating for guys.

You could make a case for an 80 on his future power, to represent his potential (though 80 is really intended to be a generational skill, a once-every-10-years type of thing). Like, you'd give Aaron Judge an 80. Probably wouldn't hand that to maybe one more guy in his generation.

I'd probably say a fair and conservative grade on Caglianone is to give him a 55/65 power rating. Aggressive would be 60/70. Both are fair, IMO.

dlphg9 07-24-2024 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17599447)
He could be a 2025 debut guy if they sent him on an aggressive assignment (at least High-A to start) and had him perform so well he got at least a cup of coffee at AA. It's really about how he acclimates and how fast he shows he is ready to move up.



Grades get weird... I think the most accurate scouts use a present/future rating for guys.

You could make a case for an 80 on his future power, to represent his potential (though 80 is really intended to be a generational skill, a once-every-10-years type of thing). Like, you'd give Aaron Judge an 80. Probably wouldn't hand that to maybe one more guy in his generation.

I'd probably say a fair and conservative grade on Caglianone is to give him a 55/65 power rating. Aggressive would be 60/70. Both are fair, IMO.

But was Aaron Judge really thought of as that big of a power hitter? He had 23 HRs in 4 seasons in college and his senior year was the only year he had over 5. As a minor leaguer he only had 20 HRs once. Wouldn't you expect the guy with a 500+ ft HR and a few HR records to be more highly graded than that guy?

Judges back ground doesn't scream "60 HR/season power". Of course he has the size, but shit I wouldn't expect him to be a 30 HR/season guy.

Baseball prospectus had Judge as a 60 for future power. MLB.com had him at 40 for current and 70 for future.

poolboy 07-24-2024 02:47 PM

I would love to see Bobby and Salvy with Jac soon than later

cmh6476 07-24-2024 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17599447)
He could be a 2025 debut guy if they sent him on an aggressive assignment (at least High-A to start) and had him perform so well he got at least a cup of coffee at AA. It's really about how he acclimates and how fast he shows he is ready to move up.



Grades get weird... I think the most accurate scouts use a present/future rating for guys.

You could make a case for an 80 on his future power, to represent his potential (though 80 is really intended to be a generational skill, a once-every-10-years type of thing). Like, you'd give Aaron Judge an 80. Probably wouldn't hand that to maybe one more guy in his generation.

I'd probably say a fair and conservative grade on Caglianone is to give him a 55/65 power rating. Aggressive would be 60/70. Both are fair, IMO.

How many 1b we gonna have?

Mecca 07-24-2024 03:04 PM

The chase rate thing is a little overblown, he was trying to carry his team so he would chase pitches to try to do something. When you are the only guy on your team that can make a difference should you just take walks?

Mecca 07-24-2024 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17599597)
How many 1b we gonna have?

Well what do you mean when you say that? Like as far as today I see 1.

GabyKeepsMeWarm 07-24-2024 03:12 PM

I love the enthusiasm, the optimism and all that, but I’d maybe temper expectations, at least until the guy is playing and performing at a high level in the minors. For all we know, he could be the second coming of Dave Kingman. I like the signing too, but man, how about we pump the brakes a tad before we enshrine him into Cooperstown. Sorry to be a party pooper, but damn gang…

duncan_idaho 07-24-2024 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17599549)
But was Aaron Judge really thought of as that big of a power hitter? He had 23 HRs in 4 seasons in college and his senior year was the only year he had over 5. As a minor leaguer he only had 20 HRs once. Wouldn't you expect the guy with a 500+ ft HR and a few HR records to be more highly graded than that guy?

Judges back ground doesn't scream "60 HR/season power". Of course he has the size, but shit I wouldn't expect him to be a 30 HR/season guy.

Baseball prospectus had Judge as a 60 for future power. MLB.com had him at 40 for current and 70 for future.

Yeah, he wasn't expected to be this good/hit for this much power. But he DOES, and his actual game power could be graded at 80. Some scouts would still say even HE does not grade out that high.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-24-2024 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17599625)
I love the enthusiasm, the optimism and all that, but I’d maybe temper expectations, at least until the guy is playing and performing at a high level in the minors. For all we know, he could be the second coming of Dave Kingman. I like the signing too, but man, how about we pump the brakes a tad before we enshrine him into Cooperstown. Sorry to be a party pooper, but damn gang…

So it's not ok to gush about a draft pick? I mean, this would be the first draft pick since Witt that we've really been able to get excited about. I don't see anyone enshrining him in Cooperstown.

duncan_idaho 07-24-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17599625)
I love the enthusiasm, the optimism and all that, but I’d maybe temper expectations, at least until the guy is playing and performing at a high level in the minors. For all we know, he could be the second coming of Dave Kingman. I like the signing too, but man, how about we pump the brakes a tad before we enshrine him into Cooperstown. Sorry to be a party pooper, but damn gang…

To be clear, when you're talking about a prospect's power grade, you're just talking about raw power - max exit velocity, the ability to elevate the ball.

Player's actual game power may variate from their raw score - some guys get to more because of their hit tool and other skills. Some get to less.

WhawhaWhat 07-24-2024 04:19 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTSKrK8W...jpg&name=small

BWillie 07-24-2024 04:22 PM

All I know is Vinny and Caglianone need to make an Italian Restaurant when Jac gets to the bigs. It will be a....hit.

PHOG 07-24-2024 04:22 PM

Whoa, that's an old fashioned ass-whooping. :clap: And Minnesota won. :mad:

GabyKeepsMeWarm 07-24-2024 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17599669)
So it's not ok to gush about a draft pick? I mean, this would be the first draft pick since Witt that we've really been able to get excited about. I don't see anyone enshrining him in Cooperstown.

Knew I shouldn't have said anything. I say pump the brakes, and it gets translated to: YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF ****ING SUNSHINE PUMPING IDIOTS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Carry on...

dlphg9 07-24-2024 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17599625)
I love the enthusiasm, the optimism and all that, but I’d maybe temper expectations, at least until the guy is playing and performing at a high level in the minors. For all we know, he could be the second coming of Dave Kingman. I like the signing too, but man, how about we pump the brakes a tad before we enshrine him into Cooperstown. Sorry to be a party pooper, but damn gang…

Why can't we show excitement for one of our best 1st round draft pics we've had in awhile, excluding Witt Jr of course. My excitement isn't going to impact how good he is, so what's the harm in some excitement?

BWillie 07-24-2024 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17599774)
Knew I shouldn't have said anything. I say pump the brakes, and it gets translated to: YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF ****ING SUNSHINE PUMPING IDIOTS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Carry on...

Jac Caglianone WILL be an All-Star. I've never been so sure of something in my life.

dlphg9 07-24-2024 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17599774)
Knew I shouldn't have said anything. I say pump the brakes, and it gets translated to: YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF ****ING SUNSHINE PUMPING IDIOTS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Carry on...

Who's saying the last part? Seems like people are questioning why we need to pump the brakes at all and not be excited?

CaliforniaChief 07-24-2024 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17599756)
Whoa, that's an old fashioned ass-whooping. :clap: And Minnesota won. :mad:

The Phillies really blew that game today. They had early chances to blow MIN out, then lost a 3 run lead. I expected better from them. But thanks Colorado!

PHOG 07-24-2024 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 17599847)
The Phillies really blew that game today. They had early chances to blow MIN out, then lost a 3 run lead. I expected better from them. But thanks Colorado!

Yeah, the last time I checked the score they were comfortably (it seemed) ahead. :shake:

suzzer99 07-24-2024 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17599118)
Happy 41st Pine Tar Day, boys.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy Anniversary to the George Brett pine tar game. <a href="https://t.co/OtXffgspMT">pic.twitter.com/OtXffgspMT</a></p>&mdash; Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente) <a href="https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1816233844602986498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Reroka 07-24-2024 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17599028)
Maybe you could fly your 700.00 drone that you could have bought for less than 200.00 over the stadium. Or is that cheap Chinese junk in the trash heap now?

How's that wannabe biker backassward trike doing ya?

Don’t have to be a dick but thanks for not answering the question.

srvy 07-24-2024 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Reroka (Post 17600091)
Don’t have to be a dick but thanks for not answering the question.

Do your own research you halfwit.

GeorgeZimZam 07-24-2024 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17599774)
Knew I shouldn't have said anything. I say pump the brakes, and it gets translated to: YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF ****ING SUNSHINE PUMPING IDIOTS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Carry on...

Thus, they dare you to just lean into it further. But message boards be like that. Or something.

Who wants to throw down at the GBS Friday?

srvy 07-24-2024 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam (Post 17600384)
Thus, they dare you to just lean into it further. But message boards be like that. Or something.

Who wants to throw down at the GBS Friday?

https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-25-2017/YiGkZz.gif

dlphg9 07-25-2024 12:01 AM

QTard just isn't a very good manager. He has no clue when he should pull starters. He's pulled the starters when they didn't need to be pulled. He has no idea when to pull a relief pitcher and instead of just giving up a run he will leave them in and they give up multiple runs (more on that here in a sec). He is a complete idiot with the lineup. What competent manager looks at a guy who is batting under .200 and has a .284 OBP through over half the season and decides that he is the guy that should be batting lead off and the guy that should be getting the most ABs on the entire team? Most of the shit he does is indefensible.

Back to him leaving relief pitchers in way too ****ing long. He is the reason we lost this game tonight. The moment McArthur gave up the lead he should have been taken out of the game, but nope QTard can see that the pitcher is now struggling, but decides to let him just give away the game. I was originally pissed at McArthur, but not anymore. McArthur has been really ****ing good ever since we got out of May. From June 2nd to July 23rd McArthur had pitched in 16 games and had only given up 3 ER in those 16 games and had a 1.72 ERA during that time. Bubic should have been ready to come in the minute we lost the lead.

BWillie 07-25-2024 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17600406)
QTard just isn't a very good manager. He has no clue when he should pull starters. He's pulled the starters when they didn't need to be pulled. He has no idea when to pull a relief pitcher and instead of just giving up a run he will leave them in and they give up multiple runs (more on that here in a sec). He is a complete idiot with the lineup. What competent manager looks at a guy who is batting under .200 and has a .284 OBP through over half the season and decides that he is the guy that should be batting lead off and the guy that should be getting the most ABs on the entire team? Most of the shit he does is indefensible.

Back to him leaving relief pitchers in way too ****ing long. He is the reason we lost this game tonight. The moment McArthur gave up the lead he should have been taken out of the game, but nope QTard can see that the pitcher is now struggling, but decides to let him just give away the game. I was originally pissed at McArthur, but not anymore. McArthur has been really ****ing good ever since we got out of May. From June 2nd to July 23rd McArthur had pitched in 16 games and had only given up 3 ER in those 16 games and had a 1.72 ERA during that time. Bubic should have been ready to come in the minute we lost the lead.

You usually aren't funny but Qtard was funny. I actually think hes one of the better managers we've had.

RockChalk 07-25-2024 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17600406)
QTard just isn't a very good manager. He has no clue when he should pull starters. He's pulled the starters when they didn't need to be pulled. He has no idea when to pull a relief pitcher and instead of just giving up a run he will leave them in and they give up multiple runs (more on that here in a sec). He is a complete idiot with the lineup. What competent manager looks at a guy who is batting under .200 and has a .284 OBP through over half the season and decides that he is the guy that should be batting lead off and the guy that should be getting the most ABs on the entire team? Most of the shit he does is indefensible.

Back to him leaving relief pitchers in way too ****ing long. He is the reason we lost this game tonight. The moment McArthur gave up the lead he should have been taken out of the game, but nope QTard can see that the pitcher is now struggling, but decides to let him just give away the game. I was originally pissed at McArthur, but not anymore. McArthur has been really ****ing good ever since we got out of May. From June 2nd to July 23rd McArthur had pitched in 16 games and had only given up 3 ER in those 16 games and had a 1.72 ERA during that time. Bubic should have been ready to come in the minute we lost the lead.

Rinse repeat. Same shit was said about Yost. Look how that turned out.

WhawhaWhat 07-25-2024 09:09 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OF MJ Melendez will begin a rehab assignment tonight with Northwest Arkansas (AA).</p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1816488654342422867?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WhawhaWhat 07-25-2024 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17600406)
Back to him leaving relief pitchers in way too ****ing long. He is the reason we lost this game tonight. The moment McArthur gave up the lead he should have been taken out of the game, but nope QTard can see that the pitcher is now struggling, but decides to let him just give away the game. I was originally pissed at McArthur, but not anymore. McArthur has been really ****ing good ever since we got out of May. From June 2nd to July 23rd McArthur had pitched in 16 games and had only given up 3 ER in those 16 games and had a 1.72 ERA during that time. Bubic should have been ready to come in the minute we lost the lead.

Are there a lot of managers in MLB that are pulling their closers midway through an inning?

SithCeNtZ 07-25-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17600657)
Are there a lot of managers in MLB that are pulling their closers midway through an inning?

Not even just that, but the inning fell apart so fast that it's impossible to get someone up. This isn't MLB the Show on PS5. The inning goes strikeout, infield single, walk that could have been a strikeout/double play. Which one of those at bats are you immediately telling someone to get ready? Then it's a double and another infield single on six total pitches. He's still one grounder away from the inning being over and certainly nobody you got up is ready in 6 pitches spanning maybe 5 minutes of real time. Then the home run happens. It sucks that it all went down like that but there is no manager alive who's getting someone up in time to avoid the home run, if there even would have been a different outcome with a different pitcher.

KCUnited 07-25-2024 10:19 AM

It was going to be a nailbiter the second Wacha came out unless we scored more runs

Is anyone really confident our bullpen can give us 4 scoreless innings. You can shuffle the deck chairs all you want but someone in that bullpen is giving up a run(s) if you turn the game over to them in the 5th

TLO 07-25-2024 10:48 AM

Is Harvey an option to close?

BWillie 07-25-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 17600542)
Rinse repeat. Same shit was said about Yost. Look how that turned out.

Yost was good at dealing with ppl....which is a great attribute to have but lets be honest HDH took alot of guess work out of anything. He wasn't exactly a rocket scientist.

dlphg9 07-25-2024 12:46 PM

Why in the **** did we trade Cam Gallagher for Brent Rooker and then DFA him 3 months later? He absolutely raked in AAA with 9 HRs in 20 games and had a 1.199 OPS. We only gave him 29 major league at bats and decided to toss him in the trash.

The very next year he hits 30 HRs and has a .817 OPS in 137 games with Oakland and now this year he's really turned it on with 23 HRs and a .943 OPS in 89 games so far.

JFC, talk about completely ruining what could have been one of the most lopsided trades in franchise history. He's not even an average defender, but just imagine having him in our lineup. We could let BWJ lead off.

Dumping Rooker would have been one of the first moves Piccolo would have made after DM was fired. What could have been.

KC_Connection 07-25-2024 03:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">i totally believe that nothing illegal is going on at kauffman stadium <a href="https://t.co/IccAv3Py6N">pic.twitter.com/IccAv3Py6N</a></p>&mdash; nick (@cdlenthusiast) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdlenthusiast/status/1816451616624578717?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

???

sedated 07-25-2024 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17600787)
Is Harvey an option to close?

I'm no expert but think he's tried it and didn't do very well.

Why Not? 07-25-2024 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17600432)
I actually think hes one of the better managers we've had.

That’s not exactly a high bar. I gotta give him some of the credit since even if they peter out the last two months, the 2024 team will be much improved over the 2023 team. But he’s taken a team that was known, in it’s golden years, for base running and bullpen into a team that sucks at base running and bullpen.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-25-2024 04:57 PM

The team sucked at those two things before Q took over. He didn't Take them from being good at those to being bad.

Sassy Squatch 07-25-2024 05:51 PM

Yeah.... May be something to that. Witt isn't the only one with extreme disparity between home and away

Al Bundy 07-25-2024 11:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 We’ve acquired All-Star OF <a href="https://twitter.com/RandyArozarena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RandyArozarena</a> 🚨<br><br>The right-handed slugger joins the squad from the Rays in exchange for minor leaguers RHP Brody Hopkins, OF Aidan Smith and a player to be named later.<br><br>🔗 <a href="https://t.co/pzW1ixadf9">https://t.co/pzW1ixadf9</a> <a href="https://t.co/AIPP1LVGet">pic.twitter.com/AIPP1LVGet</a></p>&mdash; Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mariners/status/1816705318765965664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

GabyKeepsMeWarm 07-25-2024 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 17601809)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 We’ve acquired All-Star OF <a href="https://twitter.com/RandyArozarena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RandyArozarena</a> 🚨<br><br>The right-handed slugger joins the squad from the Rays in exchange for minor leaguers RHP Brody Hopkins, OF Aidan Smith and a player to be named later.<br><br>🔗 <a href="https://t.co/pzW1ixadf9">https://t.co/pzW1ixadf9</a> <a href="https://t.co/AIPP1LVGet">pic.twitter.com/AIPP1LVGet</a></p>&mdash; Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mariners/status/1816705318765965664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I like this move for Seattle, and I’m jealous. This would’ve been a nice move for KC. Change of scenery could be great for Arozarena.

dlphg9 07-25-2024 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 17601809)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 We’ve acquired All-Star OF <a href="https://twitter.com/RandyArozarena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RandyArozarena</a> 🚨<br><br>The right-handed slugger joins the squad from the Rays in exchange for minor leaguers RHP Brody Hopkins, OF Aidan Smith and a player to be named later.<br><br>🔗 <a href="https://t.co/pzW1ixadf9">https://t.co/pzW1ixadf9</a> <a href="https://t.co/AIPP1LVGet">pic.twitter.com/AIPP1LVGet</a></p>&mdash; Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mariners/status/1816705318765965664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Only had to give up there #12 and #22 prospect with a PTBNL. I'd have done that in a heart beat.

GabyKeepsMeWarm 07-25-2024 11:49 PM

Last night’s loss was brutal, but not surprising after going to the bullpen well four times while clinging to a one run lead. Hitting into three DP’s killed any offense we could’ve potentially got.

I was impressed with AZ, aside from the bad optics HBP on Bobby in game one. That AZ team is exactly what I thought they were, but I didn’t realize how athletic they were to boot. Great offense, great defense. Shit pitching. Should’ve won two, but we didn’t.

Time to move on and take care of business this weekend against the Chubs.

WhawhaWhat 07-26-2024 08:03 AM

Saw that the Mariners traded for Randy Arozarena last night for 2 guys they drafted last year. He's having a down year but still is probably the best hitter on their team now.

I would have loved for the Royals to make that move.

myselff77 07-26-2024 08:19 AM

Every time I see the Royals bulllpen implode, I wonder what Zack Greinke is up to and how he would have looked taking a relief role and pitching a single inning a few times a week?

I know he's old and his arm has more mileage than anyone else, but I still wonder...

SithCeNtZ 07-26-2024 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17601490)
Yeah.... May be something to that. Witt isn't the only one with extreme disparity between home and away

I've seen people posting about this on twitter and other places, so I decided to take a look since it's a slow Friday at work and I'd like to give you reading material as you also avoid work and look to the weekend. As it turns out there are a mix of reasons the splits look the way that they do, and you kind of have to go player by player to understand how baseball randomness works the way that it does.

Hunter Renfroe(232 avg 771 OPS at home, 216 avg .622 OPS) - As everyone remembers, Renfroe was terrible at the start, and on May 22 was hitting 160 with a 519 OPS. Yikes. However, this was heading into a road trip, and Renfroe started to come to life, raising his average 30 points on the trip, and also playing well coming back to the K. But then he got injured and missed an entire road trip, then came back and still swung the bat well, finishing with a 1.100 OPS for the month. However, because he missed basically all of the road games that month, it looks like Kaufman was the reason, but that's just random chance he got hurt when he did. He's hitting better in July on the road than at home.

Freddy Fermin(341 avg 816 OPS at home, 253 avg 692 away) - Fermin started slowly in limited duty, hitting .234 at the end of April, but what is notable about this is that for some reason Q primarily played him on the road and not at home. He played 10 games on the road, and really only 3 at home, so his road stats looked pretty bad to start. But he caught fire in May, posting his best month ever. In that time when he raised his average over 60 points, he hit .375 on the road, but most of his games happened to be at home, thus skewing his splits a fair amount. He obviously was just fine on the road and has actually hit 3 of his 4 home runs on the road, but a very slow start + when he got hot mostly was at home = weird splits.

Melendez (225/715 OPS at home, 165/586 OPS on the road) - Basically the opposite of Fermin. It's hard to remember, but Melendez started amazing, hitting .325 through the first 12 games, 10 of which were at home. Then he became one of the worst players in baseball, going 0/29 the rest of the month on the road and 3/21 at home. I guess 3/21 is better than 0/29, but none of that really screams "something fishy is going down at the K". All told he started 4/59 on the road, and while he was better before getting hurt, it's going to take a long time to bring that back up.

Bobby Witt - He's an interesting guy because he plays every day and he's really good, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have random chance involved. Take his walk rate, which KC posted in that tweet: 9.3% at home, 3.7% on the road. Seems suspicious?? Not really. In a homestand in early may against the Rangers and Brewers, for some unknown reason, Witt walked 7 times in 6 games. This a complete fluke, and to put it in perspective, that's more walks in 6 games than the entire month of April, tied for the entire month of June, and unless something crazy happens this weekend, the entire month of July. It's basically the definition of a baseball outlier. He has had two rough road trips. The first west coast trip right after this homestand he went 3/27 on the trip, and then the road trip we thought might end our season in June @Dodgers to start with 2 of their Aces and ending in that disastrous series in Texas where we went like 30 innings without a run. He went 6/37 on that trip. Of course, what did he do on the following road trips after these? The first one he hit .315 with 2 home runs in 7 games, and the one before the all star break he hit a pedestrian .387 and 2 home runs in 8 games. So, we either need our cheating to be more consistent on the road for Bobby to play better, or there just happened to be two random slumps by Witt on two road trips.

Finally, what makes me laugh about all of this is how we compare to last year. This year we have a .127 OPS difference home vs road. Last year, the year we were arguably the worst team in baseball? .102 OPS difference. Funny how nobody thought we were cheating then even though they are roughly the same splits?

TLDR - Random shit happens in baseball and the Royals are pretty random this year.

DanT 07-26-2024 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 17602444)
I've seen people posting about this on twitter and other places, so I decided to take a look since it's a slow Friday at work and I'd like to give you reading material as you also avoid work and look to the weekend. As it turns out there are a mix of reasons the splits look the way that they do, and you kind of have to go player by player to understand how baseball randomness works the way that it does.

Hunter Renfroe(232 avg 771 OPS at home, 216 avg .622 OPS) - As everyone remembers, Renfroe was terrible at the start, and on May 22 was hitting 160 with a 519 OPS. Yikes. However, this was heading into a road trip, and Renfroe started to come to life, raising his average 30 points on the trip, and also playing well coming back to the K. But then he got injured and missed an entire road trip, then came back and still swung the bat well, finishing with a 1.100 OPS for the month. However, because he missed basically all of the road games that month, it looks like Kaufman was the reason, but that's just random chance he got hurt when he did. He's hitting better in July on the road than at home.

Freddy Fermin(341 avg 816 OPS at home, 253 avg 692 away) - Fermin started slowly in limited duty, hitting .234 at the end of April, but what is notable about this is that for some reason Q primarily played him on the road and not at home. He played 10 games on the road, and really only 3 at home, so his road stats looked pretty bad to start. But he caught fire in May, posting his best month ever. In that time when he raised his average over 60 points, he hit .375 on the road, but most of his games happened to be at home, thus skewing his splits a fair amount. He obviously was just fine on the road and has actually hit 3 of his 4 home runs on the road, but a very slow start + when he got hot mostly was at home = weird splits.

Melendez (225/715 OPS at home, 165/586 OPS on the road) - Basically the opposite of Fermin. It's hard to remember, but Melendez started amazing, hitting .325 through the first 12 games, 10 of which were at home. Then he became one of the worst players in baseball, going 0/29 the rest of the month on the road and 3/21 at home. I guess 3/21 is better than 0/29, but none of that really screams "something fishy is going down at the K". All told he started 4/59 on the road, and while he was better before getting hurt, it's going to take a long time to bring that back up.

Bobby Witt - He's an interesting guy because he plays every day and he's really good, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have random chance involved. Take his walk rate, which KC posted in that tweet: 9.3% at home, 3.7% on the road. Seems suspicious?? Not really. In a homestand in early may against the Rangers and Brewers, for some unknown reason, Witt walked 7 times in 6 games. This a complete fluke, and to put it in perspective, that's more walks in 6 games than the entire month of April, tied for the entire month of June, and unless something crazy happens this weekend, the entire month of July. It's basically the definition of a baseball outlier. He has had two rough road trips. The first west coast trip right after this homestand he went 3/27 on the trip, and then the road trip we thought might end our season in June @Dodgers to start with 2 of their Aces and ending in that disastrous series in Texas where we went like 30 innings without a run. He went 6/37 on that trip. Of course, what did he do on the following road trips after these? The first one he hit .315 with 2 home runs in 7 games, and the one before the all star break he hit a pedestrian .387 and 2 home runs in 8 games. So, we either need our cheating to be more consistent on the road for Bobby to play better, or there just happened to be two random slumps by Witt on two road trips.

Finally, what makes me laugh about all of this is how we compare to last year. This year we have a .127 OPS difference home vs road. Last year, the year we were arguably the worst team in baseball? .102 OPS difference. Funny how nobody thought we were cheating then even though they are roughly the same splits?

TLDR - Random shit happens in baseball and the Royals are pretty random this year.

Great post!

BWillie 07-26-2024 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 17602444)
I've seen people posting about this on twitter and other places, so I decided to take a look since it's a slow Friday at work and I'd like to give you reading material as you also avoid work and look to the weekend. As it turns out there are a mix of reasons the splits look the way that they do, and you kind of have to go player by player to understand how baseball randomness works the way that it does.

Hunter Renfroe(232 avg 771 OPS at home, 216 avg .622 OPS) - As everyone remembers, Renfroe was terrible at the start, and on May 22 was hitting 160 with a 519 OPS. Yikes. However, this was heading into a road trip, and Renfroe started to come to life, raising his average 30 points on the trip, and also playing well coming back to the K. But then he got injured and missed an entire road trip, then came back and still swung the bat well, finishing with a 1.100 OPS for the month. However, because he missed basically all of the road games that month, it looks like Kaufman was the reason, but that's just random chance he got hurt when he did. He's hitting better in July on the road than at home.

Freddy Fermin(341 avg 816 OPS at home, 253 avg 692 away) - Fermin started slowly in limited duty, hitting .234 at the end of April, but what is notable about this is that for some reason Q primarily played him on the road and not at home. He played 10 games on the road, and really only 3 at home, so his road stats looked pretty bad to start. But he caught fire in May, posting his best month ever. In that time when he raised his average over 60 points, he hit .375 on the road, but most of his games happened to be at home, thus skewing his splits a fair amount. He obviously was just fine on the road and has actually hit 3 of his 4 home runs on the road, but a very slow start + when he got hot mostly was at home = weird splits.

Melendez (225/715 OPS at home, 165/586 OPS on the road) - Basically the opposite of Fermin. It's hard to remember, but Melendez started amazing, hitting .325 through the first 12 games, 10 of which were at home. Then he became one of the worst players in baseball, going 0/29 the rest of the month on the road and 3/21 at home. I guess 3/21 is better than 0/29, but none of that really screams "something fishy is going down at the K". All told he started 4/59 on the road, and while he was better before getting hurt, it's going to take a long time to bring that back up.

Bobby Witt - He's an interesting guy because he plays every day and he's really good, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have random chance involved. Take his walk rate, which KC posted in that tweet: 9.3% at home, 3.7% on the road. Seems suspicious?? Not really. In a homestand in early may against the Rangers and Brewers, for some unknown reason, Witt walked 7 times in 6 games. This a complete fluke, and to put it in perspective, that's more walks in 6 games than the entire month of April, tied for the entire month of June, and unless something crazy happens this weekend, the entire month of July. It's basically the definition of a baseball outlier. He has had two rough road trips. The first west coast trip right after this homestand he went 3/27 on the trip, and then the road trip we thought might end our season in June @Dodgers to start with 2 of their Aces and ending in that disastrous series in Texas where we went like 30 innings without a run. He went 6/37 on that trip. Of course, what did he do on the following road trips after these? The first one he hit .315 with 2 home runs in 7 games, and the one before the all star break he hit a pedestrian .387 and 2 home runs in 8 games. So, we either need our cheating to be more consistent on the road for Bobby to play better, or there just happened to be two random slumps by Witt on two road trips.

Finally, what makes me laugh about all of this is how we compare to last year. This year we have a .127 OPS difference home vs road. Last year, the year we were arguably the worst team in baseball? .102 OPS difference. Funny how nobody thought we were cheating then even though they are roughly the same splits?

TLDR - Random shit happens in baseball and the Royals are pretty random this year.

Smart post

Ceej 07-26-2024 04:29 PM

Guys,

I'm on the Jazz Chisholm train.

Gimme, gimme, gimme.

dlphg9 07-26-2024 07:00 PM

Why in the name of Patrick Mahomes is QTardo so dead set on having the walking pile of shit Adam Frazier lead off and even DH some nights. He has been damn near an automatic out to start every single game. Someone should ask out idiot manager if he is really that stupid.

Why Not? 07-26-2024 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17603213)
Why in the name of Patrick Mahomes is QTardo so dead set on having the walking pile of shit Adam Frazier lead off and even DH some nights. He has been damn near an automatic out to start every single game. Someone should ask out idiot manager if he is really that stupid.

It would rule if BWJ ever got to hit with dudes on base.

dlphg9 07-26-2024 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17603219)
It would rule if BWJ ever got to hit with dudes on base.

He's basically the leadoff hitter and we are just giving the opponent a free out to start the game.

cabletech94 07-26-2024 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17603213)
Why in the name of Patrick Mahomes is QTardo so dead set on having the walking pile of shit Adam Frazier lead off and even DH some nights. He has been damn near an automatic out to start every single game. Someone should ask out idiot manager if he is really that stupid.

Adam Frazier says hi!!

R’s up 2! Now up 3, thanks to Pasquatch!!

doomy3 07-26-2024 08:47 PM

Yimi Garcia would have been a nice add for the Rs. Heading to Seattle.

Sure-Oz 07-27-2024 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 17603062)
Guys,



I'm on the Jazz Chisholm train.



Gimme, gimme, gimme.

Traded to the Yankees

https://x.com/MLB/status/18172885578...mNXjF-2Iw&s=19

BWillie 07-27-2024 02:05 PM

Why do we always have so many AAAA catchers?

Why Not? 07-27-2024 02:12 PM

Yeah, I don't think we're gonna see many moves (and probably not any that get us excited). We just don't have the capital to acquire any of these dudes that any other teams are interested in.

ChiefsCountry 07-27-2024 02:34 PM

The talk on Twitter is Yankees wanted Jazz as an infielder and he wanted to play infield again. He would have been an outfielder in KC.

Still think Tommy Pham is what the Royals really need

BWillie 07-27-2024 03:27 PM

Congratulations to Nick Pratto on his 100th strikeout in 300 at bats in Omaha!

PHOG 07-27-2024 04:27 PM

Looks like Garcia will be leading off this evening.

Bowser 07-27-2024 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17604106)
Congratulations to Nick Pratto on his 100th strikeout in 300 at bats in Omaha!

His strikeout percentage would be a HoF batting average!

lewdog 07-27-2024 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17604199)
Looks like Garcia will be leading off this evening.

Better than Frazier.

doomy3 07-27-2024 04:50 PM

Carlos Estevez traded to Phillies for their 23rd and 28th ranked prospects. Relievers flying off the board…

KCUnited 07-27-2024 04:53 PM

Royals deal for Chaz Jizzum

Sure-Oz 07-27-2024 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 17604223)
Carlos Estevez traded to Phillies for their 23rd and 28th ranked prospects. Relievers flying off the board…

Apparently they are the 5th and 7th best prospects now

Sure-Oz 07-27-2024 05:00 PM

https://x.com/anne__rogers/status/18...-EdvmB46A&s=19

PHOG 07-27-2024 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17604213)
Better than Frazier.

Much.

cmh6476 07-27-2024 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17604227)
Royals deal for Chaz Jizzum

I hear they are still in on Jack Schitt...

Bowser 07-28-2024 01:11 PM

Fermin gets a home run off of fan interference......from a Cubs fan. That's amazing!

KCUnited 07-28-2024 01:13 PM

Cubs Christopher Morel traded mid-game

Kind of wild to see the dugout reaction

Bowser 07-28-2024 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17605057)
Cubs Christopher Morel traded mid-game

Kind of wild to see the dugout reaction

Yeah, that was tough to watch a little bit. You can tell he was very emotional over it and the dugout was in a funk.

chiefsfan987 07-28-2024 01:20 PM

gonna give the run right back aren't they


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