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It's destiny! :whackit: |
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So is the Veach can't find a WR through the draft narrative dead yet?
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I'd agree with that. Nail in the coffin.
I think drafting wide receivers is just hard. The entire second round is full of misfires |
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Man, not teaching tape for my fourth grade team.
Keep your eyes up Rashee, you're gonna end up in trouble. |
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Mecole Hardman wasn't the best pick that could've been made. It also wasn't a bad pick. It was defensible (if frustrating) at the time and in his 4 years on his rookie deal he contributed pretty well. He's made an effort 3 times. 1 appears to have hit really well, 1 was fine, 1 is a bust (I mean we can keep slow-playing it, but he's not good). That's a fine track record. |
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I just happened to like Skyy too. |
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Meh. Moore was more of a settle for whatever fell to him in that pocket of WRs. Kind of a shame he's flaming out as bad as he is though.
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And out of Pickens own mouth the Chiefs did a ton of homework on him. Whatever it was that scared them off is pretty unfortunate, because they were obviously interested at some point.
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Georgia receivers get a bad rap. I saw it from the talking heads even - so many of those guys threw the usual "doesn't run good routes" knock on him and that was always just silly as hell. Pre-draft I said I thought he might be the best pure route-runner in the draft. The guy could run routes. I wonder if Hardman's relatively graduated learning curve here didn't create a bit of a bias against Pickens, being another toolsy receiver from Georgia who's production didn't match his raw talent. Hard to say. |
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So if that's something he can do, I'll have to go ahead and acknowledge that he's used his power for good more than he has for evil... |
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The jury will be out on Pickens until he retires. I still think he has that temper that could flare at any moment to the point that he Antonio Browns himself right off the field
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rashee's signature sound effect makes it debut friday
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Fast forward a few years when we've actually put effort into drafting the position and suddenly we might have the best LB corps in football. It's all about prioritizing scarce resources. Give it time - we'll be fine. EDIT: Found the thread
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And really, we've done the same comparison a couple times when talking about WR here vs. what the Steelers have done. We had Hill - so we didn't draft a lot of WRs. Before that we had Derrick Johnson so we didn't draft a lot of linebackers. When we had to transition away from our established superstar, it took a little time but we got it taken care of. We will this time as well. |
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Clay's gonna scratch his rash and then run it through some filters and loop it
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After all, they had just traded the best WR since JR80 that reportedly snd admittedly demanded the ball from Pat and it caused a rift and possibly played a major role in us losing a couple huge games. I bet the lesson they learn from this is sometimes, the character concerns are well worth the risk when the alternative is a major talent dropoff to the next prospect that will also require a lot more development. Another question I have about Pickens… Man…Pickens and Rice would be a ****ing NASTY set of outside WRs to pair with Kelce working the middle. Has anyone ever directly asked Veach in an interview if he’s had second thoughts about the decision to pass on Pickens in the trade down? |
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Not the guys excited about 2 catches for 15 yards as though it's not the same ol' shit we've gotten from him since he got here. And we're hyping up blocks now, as though some reasonable expectation for him wouldn't have included him not taking the play off on run plays. Again - this is just "Frank Clark sets the edge" 2.0. Y'all have fun with it. I'm beyond caring about Moore at this point. He's a non-factor. He's a placeholder until Richie James comes back healthy. And Richie James sucked - but he'll be an upgrade on Moore. |
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It's only an excuse for him if it's exclusive to him. It ain't. |
Skyy is actually coming along. That intermediate up and out breaking route looked pretty good. He has shown he can do damage over the middle as well but it's been very inconsistent. Dude needs more time and he'll get it. Not sure he'll ever live up to his draft hype.
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No different than when I pointed to Rice getting tackled at the one twice that one game. |
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It was an over-commitment by the DB. It was the way Reid layers his play designs. I don't understand how he's still so lackadaisical in his cuts. Its just bizarre to me. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's not in NGS top 20 ball carrier speeds of the week, so lower than 19.7mph. But Rashee Rice is there at 20.54mph 👀 on his 37 yard catch and run!</p>— Brian Popp (@poppanalytics) <a href="https://twitter.com/poppanalytics/status/1717245963603984800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I was a Pickens guy and was so mad we drafted Skyy. I just figured he could run sharp routes and had great hands. We're not seeing it!! |
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I just think Skyy is a slot receiver.
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At what point do you consider just throwing Moore into the RB room and seeing what you can salvage there as a 3rd down back. He was getting quite a bit of work there during training camp IIRC.
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The sad thing is McBuster was quite a bit more productive relative to Moore.
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I'm thinking another 5-6 catches for about 40 yards and a TD from this kid tomorrow.
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Dear Rashee Rice,
You are doing well as a rookie. Please do not risk injury trucking defender at the end of an explosive play. Not worth it. |
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Every rep given to other WR's is a waste of time. Rashee is our #1 WR.
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Skyy’s CEH like inability to beat OLB’s on the jet sweeps does not inspire confidence on the idea he could be a backfield weapon.
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I was pretty close, just missing the TD.
Rashee Rice, you're our only hope. |
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But for real, though. I think I'd take Cornell Powell over Skyy Moore right now. |
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How on earth is he not getting 8-10 targets a game right now?
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He officially had the most snaps at WR and that's with both Watson coming back and Mecole getting a good share of snaps as well. He's on pace for around 800 yds, but I think he has a real chance at 1000 if he continues to get the most snaps. I can live with the drops, because that'll sort itself out and other than a drop here or there he looks damn good. Really good burst as well.
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Another big thing is that he's in the right spot, because he has 30 comp on 39 targets. A few of those are drops. Now look at Skyy with 14 catches on 27 targets. That's not good and probably means he's no where close to where he should be in his routes. It's not like he's running deep routes that are difficult throws.
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Looked like a number 1 WR today keep up the good work
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he's full juju now
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LOVE LOVE LOVE how physical he is after the catch. And that acceleration!
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