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Lzen 02-14-2022 09:46 AM

Self said Clemence only has practiced twice in the past six weeks since his injury. Said these young guys (Clemence & Adams) are great players but they can't run any plays when they're on the floor because they don't know the offense.

Buehler445 02-14-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16144717)
Point taken. I was referring to Dave's inside presence. But yeah, he's not good at all on guarding three point shooting bigs.

Which is weird. He can move. He can actually shoot (even though he never does from the outside...also weird). Plus he's a 3rd year player who should know how to play.

He just CAN. NOT. DO. IT. Groves shot was long and slow as hell, he should have been able to at least get up and make it uncomfortable for him. But he just stood there and watched them go in....

Boggles the mind.

smithandrew051 02-14-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16145035)
Which is weird. He can move. He can actually shoot (even though he never does from the outside...also weird). Plus he's a 3rd year player who should know how to play.

He just CAN. NOT. DO. IT. Groves shot was long and slow as hell, he should have been able to at least get up and make it uncomfortable for him. But he just stood there and watched them go in....

Boggles the mind.

Didn’t Groves also “blow by” Dave on a drive once too?

I put that in quotes, because the drive took about the entire shot clock but still technically counts.

Buehler445 02-14-2022 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16145051)
Didn’t Groves also “blow by” Dave on a drive once too?

I put that in quotes, because the drive took about the entire shot clock but still technically counts.

It's possible I missed it.

But similar to the closeouts. He is physically capable. I just don't get it.

smithandrew051 02-14-2022 01:13 PM

Jalen Wilson wins Big 12 Player of the Week. Well deserved.

Lzen 02-14-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16145147)
Jalen Wilson wins Big 12 Player of the Week. Well deserved.

Jalen Wilson's turnaround from his start to the year has been incredible. :thumb:

Mr. Plow 02-14-2022 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16145159)
Jalen Wilson's turnaround from his start to the year has been incredible. :thumb:

Absolutely. Beginning of the year he looked like he forgot how to play basketball. He's been brilliant the last month or so.

Buehler445 02-14-2022 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16145173)
Absolutely. Beginning of the year he looked like he forgot how to play basketball. He's been brilliant the last month or so.

So my question is how does that happen? Seems to have happened to MacCormack too. Happened to KCC's favorite Perry Ellis too.

How does someone go on summer break and forget how to play basketball in November.

Ceej 02-14-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16145486)
So my question is how does that happen? Seems to have happened to MacCormack too. Happened to KCC's favorite Perry Ellis too.

How does someone go on summer break and forget how to play basketball in November.

I'd assume that his DUI might have had something to do with it.

Missing time, then overplaying trying to show HCBS that you belong, and you were just itching to get back and contribute.

Just my take.

smithandrew051 02-14-2022 08:12 PM

Not sure about these unis

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Bearcat 02-14-2022 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16146057)
Not sure about these unis

They're so bad.

Pablo 02-14-2022 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16146061)
They're so bad.

They’re so ugly. They look like something kstate would wear

smithandrew051 02-14-2022 08:22 PM

Clemence in

smithandrew051 02-14-2022 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16146078)
They’re so ugly. They look like something kstate would wear

Their old two-tones were awful

smithandrew051 02-14-2022 08:26 PM

Hideous game so far. Burn these unis after the game.

Pablo 02-14-2022 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16146090)
Hideous game so far. Burn these unis after the game.

Burn them at half just to be safe.

smithandrew051 02-14-2022 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16146092)
Burn them at half just to be safe.

Like the old Keith Langford changing shoes at halftime.

Buehler445 02-14-2022 08:36 PM

I think I slept through a few possessions and the score didn’t change. This is awful.

smithandrew051 02-14-2022 08:43 PM

And then 3 straight 3’s lol

Buehler445 02-14-2022 08:56 PM

OSUs dude falls for McCormacks setup move every ****ing time.

DJJasonp 02-14-2022 09:18 PM

Fran is back at it again tonight


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smithandrew051 02-14-2022 09:22 PM

Harris has been good tonight

KC_Connection 02-14-2022 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16146187)
Fran is back at it again tonight


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At this point it is basically self-aware trolling. He knows he has a reputation to maintain.

KC_Connection 02-14-2022 10:17 PM

Better game tonight than the last one. At least they tried for about half the game (you can ignore the first and last 10 minutes).

smithandrew051 02-14-2022 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16146314)
Better game tonight than the last one. At least they tried for about half the game (you can ignore the first and last 10 minutes).

Yeah tonight was fine. Not bad, not great. Fine.

Felt like we missed a ton of bunnies (Wilson especially). Make those like we should, and this is more like a 30 point win.

I think Baylor loses at Tech on Wednesday. If that happens, we’ll have our 2 game lead back.

Just gotta get to 14-4.

Buehler445 02-14-2022 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16146314)
Better game tonight than the last one. At least they tried for about half the game (you can ignore the first and last 10 minutes).

McCormack had himself a game, but I think it's because OSU was complete ****ing ass. That being said, he did some things really right out there. That little baseline spin baby hook was really smooth, efficient and good and will work against good competition.

It would be good for him to build off it for a run.

RockChalk 02-15-2022 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16146401)
McCormack had himself a game, but I think it's because OSU was complete ****ing ass. That being said, he did some things really right out there. That little baseline spin baby hook was really smooth, efficient and good and will work against good competition.

It would be good for him to build off it for a run.

The problem is that he's had some flashy games here and there, and then bounced backwards to the mostly garbage play he's had all season.

I keep thinking he's going to build off of a good game, but it's mostly just been the same crap.

DJJasonp 02-15-2022 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16146311)
At this point it is basically self-aware trolling. He knows he has a reputation to maintain.

True. But he's recently found some newfound bravery, as he has been much more blatant than in the past.

Sucks not being able to watch a game without that nonsense going on.

Last night, his play-by-play guy was trying to help him off the hook, but it was awkward as hell.

sedated 02-15-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16146187)
Fran is back at it again tonight

Not sure I get the issue people have with Fran (its constant on the Phog). He seems pretty complimentary towards KU. I don't think I've ever heard a real explanation as to why KU fans dislike him so much.

BWillie 02-15-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 16147685)
Not sure I get the issue people have with Fran (its constant on the Phog). He seems pretty complimentary towards KU. I don't think I've ever heard a real explanation as to why KU fans dislike him so much.

He at one time called KU fans "Smug" on a broadcast and he always mentions that they call fouls differently at Allen Fieldhouse than any other home arena - which actually can statistically be disproven. There have been a few statistical analysis that confirm home court of any team they call less fouls on home team and more on the away team, but there is no data that shows KU is at the top of such disparity or even close.

Hasn't lived it down since.

KC_Connection 02-15-2022 05:47 PM

I don't dislike Fran. He's pretty good at his job and certainly has the best knowledge of B12 players (including KU's players) of any analyst ESPN has.

I do think he's been knowingly trolling KU fans somewhat this year, though, probably partially because he gets a lot of shit on Twitter from them. And that does take away from the game call a bit.

DJJasonp 02-15-2022 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16147753)
I don't dislike Fran. He's pretty good at his job and certainly has the best knowledge of B12 players (including KU's players) of any analyst ESPN has.

I do think he's been knowingly trolling KU fans somewhat this year, though, probably partially because he gets a lot of shit on Twitter from them. And that does take away from the game call a bit.

This.

The guy knows basketball, and knows the Big 12. Just shut up about the home court bias and KU hate he holds, and keep telling us how Och setting up in the corner is a good sign the alley oop is coming.

smithandrew051 02-15-2022 06:57 PM

I do enjoy Fran’s comparisons to old KU players. I’ve always appreciated that. He definitely has a strong knowledge of the program.

Buehler445 02-15-2022 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16147783)
This.

The guy knows basketball, and knows the Big 12. Just shut up about the home court bias and KU hate he holds, and keep telling us how Och setting up in the corner is a good sign the alley oop is coming.

Yeah. Dudes been on a streak of “look out - there it is”. I laugh.

lawrenceRaider 02-17-2022 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16146324)
Yeah tonight was fine. Not bad, not great. Fine.

Felt like we missed a ton of bunnies (Wilson especially). Make those like we should, and this is more like a 30 point win.

I think Baylor loses at Tech on Wednesday. If that happens, we’ll have our 2 game lead back.

Just gotta get to 14-4.

Tech took care of business last night. Now we just need to take care of ours.

smithandrew051 02-17-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16150000)
Tech took care of business last night. Now we just need to take care of ours.

Yup.

If we win @WVU, then we can just win our home games and guarantee at least a share of the title. That would mean that Baylor or Tech would have to win out to claim a share, which I don’t think will happen.

BWillie 02-18-2022 01:27 PM

Latest bracketology:
#1 Gonzaga
#1 Auburn
#1 Arizona
#1 Kansas
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#2 Texas Tech
#3 Baylor
#4 Texas
#5 Houston
#10 Iowa State
#10 TCU
#11 Oklahoma

LAST FOUR OUT:
BYU
NEXT FOUR OUT
Kansas State

4-9 Iowa State and Oklahoma rofl

RockChalk 02-18-2022 03:34 PM

Huggins did a presser today. He's organized a fish fry benefit tonight and Self is attending. Both coaches going to be dealing with a big time hangover tomorrow evening.

Ceej 02-19-2022 07:10 AM

I feel like the team is going to shit the bed tonight.

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 16153340)
I feel like the team is going to shit the bed tonight.

It would take a pretty epic choke. WVU has lost 9 of their last 10.

Lzen 02-19-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 16153340)
I feel like the team is going to shit the bed tonight.

Don't be a Debbie Downer.
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Pablo 02-19-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 16153340)
I feel like the team is going to shit the bed tonight.

I'm not super concerned with that, I just know it's gonna be ugly, gross WV basketball though.

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 11:55 AM

If we win and Texas wins today, we’ll likely be playing for a guaranteed share of the Conference Title on the 26th at Baylor. We would still have 3 games to play as well.

KC_Connection 02-19-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16153354)
It would take a pretty epic choke. WVU has lost 9 of their last 10.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if WVU won. The refs let them play completely differently there and it would be far from the first time a bad WVU beat a good KU team in that building (see most recently a 15-21 WVU team winning in 2019).

Despite Fran being fond lately of saying that it is an AFH thing, home advantage is just huge in college basketball (and in particular the B12). KU has the same chance of winning tonight's game against WVU as they do against beating UT at home later in the season per KP.

Pablo 02-19-2022 07:03 PM

Stoked to watch the last 3 mins of this Puke/Fla State game!!!

Reerun_KC 02-19-2022 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16154145)
Stoked to watch the last 3 mins of this Puke/Fla State game!!!

Well we’re already on a patented scoring drought to start this game. Turning it over almost ever possession.

Looking in mid season form.

Pablo 02-19-2022 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16154160)
Well we’re already on a patented scoring drought to start this game. Turning it over almost ever possession.

Looking in mid season form.

Expect it all game. Physical slop fest KU wins 60-53

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 07:46 PM

Beautiful transition bucket from Braun

Pablo 02-19-2022 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16154176)
Beautiful transition bucket from Braun

He's got some great moves and vision.

CasselGotPeedOn 02-19-2022 07:59 PM

It's ridiculous how long of a leash Harris has

Pablo 02-19-2022 07:59 PM

Welp, that was a dazzling display of offense by both squads.

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 08:01 PM

We’re killing them on the glass and shooting a higher percentage. Turnovers are the only thing keeping this game close.

Zebedee DuBois 02-19-2022 08:04 PM

"If you know, you know!"

KC_Connection 02-19-2022 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 16154188)
It's ridiculous how long of a leash Harris has

Who would you propose they play instead? Remy hasn't played in weeks with whatever his issue is and Yesefu has been terrible this year in the minutes he's gotten.

Pablo 02-19-2022 08:16 PM

Dave pisses me off so much

Buehler445 02-19-2022 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16154209)
Dave pisses me off so much

If he didn’t board, I might drive to Morgantown and murder him.

KC_Connection 02-19-2022 08:34 PM

Ochai is aware that guy is the only player on their team who can shoot, right?

Reerun_KC 02-19-2022 08:34 PM

This team….

All you can do is LMAO

Ceej 02-19-2022 08:35 PM

Hardly any Adams, and zero Clemence.

Woof.

KC_Connection 02-19-2022 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 16154233)
Hardly any Adams, and zero Clemence.

Woof.

I'm more concerned by the 12 turnovers from the rest of the team. McCormack is one of the few who has actually shown up for this one.

Ceej 02-19-2022 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16154239)
I'm more concerned by the 12 turnovers from the rest of the team. McCormack is one of the few who has actually shown up for this one.

Sure, that's fair. DMC hasn't been bad tonight. Mitch has. The fact they run pick-n-roll sets with him his maddening.

I just don't understand how Clemence hasn't seen the floor yet, at all.

Ceej 02-19-2022 08:42 PM

And HCBS keeps running sets for Mitch. JFC.

KC_Connection 02-19-2022 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 16154244)
Sure, that's fair. DMC hasn't been bad tonight. Mitch has. The fact they run pick-n-roll sets with him his maddening.

I just don't understand how Clemence hasn't seen the floor yet, at all.

I would be playing Clemence over Lightfoot for sure, agreed.

Lzen 02-19-2022 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16154197)
Who would you propose they play instead? Remy hasn't played in weeks with whatever his issue is and Yesefu has been terrible this year in the minutes he's gotten.

Yesefu has been pretty good tonight

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 08:48 PM

Doesn’t Yesufu have like a 46” vertical? You could see it on that rebound.

KC_Connection 02-19-2022 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16154258)
Yesefu has been pretty good tonight

True.

Chiefs Pantalones 02-19-2022 08:49 PM

It’s so funny that Bill Self wanted to get more athletic and yet none of the transfers start lol. Yikes. Pitiful.

Reerun_KC 02-19-2022 08:51 PM

WVU invited us to a swat party.

They sending out shit all over the field house.

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 08:54 PM

If Wilson gets some late points, we might have 3 guys finish with double doubles.

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 08:55 PM

Oh that’s bullshit. Should’ve been a layup for Ochai.

KC_Connection 02-19-2022 08:57 PM

LMAO at that call, foul was called 3 seconds after the play when KU got the turnover

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 09:00 PM

This is going to be a long 5 minutes. I bet we see like 20 free throws the rest of the way.

Chiefs Pantalones 02-19-2022 09:00 PM

This team is gonna need a lot of things to go their way if they’re gonna win it all. A LOT. I can’t believe they’re a one seed currently lol. I just don’t see it with this team. Hope they prove me wrong.

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16154275)
This is going to be a long 5 minutes. I bet we see like 20 free throws the rest of the way.

Probably going to be more like 30 free throws

KC_Connection 02-19-2022 09:04 PM

Can we stop playing Lightfoot? He's getting absolutely destroyed on the boards.

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16154281)
Can we stop playing Lightfoot? He's getting absolutely destroyed on the boards.

Got your wish. 5 guard/wing lineup.

Reerun_KC 02-19-2022 09:11 PM

Make your FTs. Go home with a win.

KC_Connection 02-19-2022 09:20 PM

Somehow WVU only had 3 more fouls than KU that game. Amazing stuff.

smithandrew051 02-19-2022 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16154265)
If Wilson gets some late points, we might have 3 guys finish with double doubles.

Braun finished 1 point shy of this


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