Just thought about this—if we do sign Watkins, we get Cheetah and Sammy vs. Peters and Talib in Mexico next year. PPV entertainment.

Either Peters or Talib will be suspended by then so your point is null.

Week 1?

:D

A lot can happen in the preseason man.

Is LA playing the raiders this year? It would be fun to see talib rip off coopers chain and peters throw it into the stands.

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That’s one explosive ass wideout.

we don't need that though - we need health upon the starters, bru-heim!

We need bof

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I agree. Didn’t think they would, but here we are.

bof=best of friends?!!

#CHUEFS!!!

Oh man this is so exciting. I hope it’s Jeff George!

Kendrell Bell is still my favourite Chiefs FA flop.

I laugh remembering how King Carl and the coaching staff were just gushing and patting themselves on the back for his acquisition.

Good times.

Who else are we going to pay? We're going cheap QB and young for a reason.

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I'm with you, would be an electric offense!

His ability to track the ball is insane

bit worrying how much he juggles balls in his highlights, at least he hangs on to them I guess.

I do agree the Offense would be scary if they got him

The idea has grown on me. Given what's available in free agency, it's probably easier to raise the ceiling of the offense than raise the floor of the defense.

I noticed that too. A co-worker is a bills fan and he said sammys first few seasons qb ball placement led to alot of unnecessary contact that kept him banged up. And even when it wasn't placement he'd try to get a bump in on a guy instead of going out of bounds. Love it and hate it. Not scared of contact but also a little fragile. And at this level the best ability is availability.

This is where I’m at.

I’d rather pay Watkins or Robinson, guys who have the actual talent to match the money they will receive, than to overpay for a need when the production very likely won’t match their salary. Plus, they are essentially 3rd year players at age 24 going on 25.

Since we are meeting with Wilkerson, I hope we can bring him in to improve the front. If we do that, and maybe sign one other defender somewhere, we can draft the rest of our needs. All signs point to this being Veach’s plan. He said we’d be in the market for fast outside WRs, and our plan on defense is to go young and fast.

What do you think it'll take to get Watkins?

3 year deal? $10 million a season?

Pure guess: 4 years/$40-45M. If the Chiefs did a deal similar to this, I’d certainly expect a backload, although it wouldn’t be drastic I don’t believe because I don’t expect us to be super active in FA this year.

I think Shanahan will want Robinson to come in and be his Julio Jones at 6’3”. I think the Bears will go after him too. I’m not sure on Watkins. Maybe there’s a team out there ready to pay him whatever it takes?

The Chiefs and Rams were rumored to be the contenders at the combine. But the Rams didn’t use Watkins most efficiently to my eyes. He was their red zone guy it appears (8 TDs), but Goff is a more limited QB than Mahomes IMO.

His market could be dryer than I suspect though.

**** that. Hill's gonna get $15+ million and Kelce's already at $9 million.

Hunt, Jones, Fuller and Ragland will all be coming up soon, too.

That's just too much.

San Fran will be in on him, as will other teams. But teams with massive cap space can afford him at that price.

The Chiefs can't.

I wouldn't pay a penny over $7 million per season for Watkins.

He's had some issues with effort in Buffalo and has been injured all too often for my taste.

3 years, $21 million, $11 million guaranteed.

You are mentioning signing Hunt...why? And by the time those guys are up Justin Houston likely isn't here any more either.

Hill at 15 mil? **** no.

The missing point to a lot of that is several huge contracts won't even be here in 3 years, if anyone thinks Justin Houston is still on that deal or Eric Berry sees most of his are not living in reality.

It doesn't matter if Houston is with the Chiefs in 2020 because Mahomes is going to eat up $30+ million soon.

What has Sammy Watkins ever done to prove he's worth $10 million per year?

Certainly not last year or the year before. The guy's had a total of 67 receptions in the past two seasons.

You're giving a guy $10 million per for 33 catches a year?

No thanks.

The point still stands: Paying ****ing Sammy Watkins $10 million per is absolutely ****ing lunacy.

Watkins is a playmaker, if you are going to develop a young QB it's best to give them a lot of weapons.

I'm sorry this team has a ****ing guard with a 40 million dollar contract.

:shake:

You'd better prepare yourself now because he's going to break the bank.

He's SUCH a playmaker that he's averaged 33 catches the past 2 seasons.

STUD!

LMAO

Keenan Allen makes 11 and he's hurt every 5 minutes..lets see here

Emmanuel Sanders 11
Fitzgerald 11
Allen Hurns 10
Randall Cobb 10
Jordy Nelson and Pierre Garcon are just under

Doesn't really sound like that is to much looking at who else is there.

Houston will be gone after this year.....I think.

Yes it's his fault he was playing with the black hole of Tyrod Taylor

I would hope that if they sign him to a similar number, in two years we look at it as a steal. He outplays that to a super bowl. Ha!

He's also still only 24 years old and you're being misleading with his stats..

2014 BUF 16 16 65 982 15.1 84 6 1
2015 BUF 13 13 60 1,047 17.5 63 9 0
2016 BUF 8 8 28 430 15.4 62 2 0
2017 LA 15 14 39 593 15.2 67T 8 0
Total 52 51 192 3,052 15.9 84 25 1

Still think his best years are ahead of him.

That’s an easy claim if you’re just looking at the numbers.

Anyone who watches him play knows he’s much better than that.

People have GOT to stop counting on a bunch of unproven young WRs on this team that can’t do half the things Watkins can. You’re worried about money when our QB makes $4M for the next 3 years. The Chiefs have $83+M in 2019 cap space right now, and that number can jump very easily if they need it to. Money is not an issue.

They’re gonna pay big $ to a wr. Too much smoke around it

Atleast Watkins is young I guess

**** you, I live in LA and watched him many times, even in person.

I also have a friend that's super close with ownership of the Bills and their entire organization that said Watkins was a headache, which is why they traded him.

You wanna give him $10 million? Fine. Those contracts have been an epic disaster for the Chiefs and this one will be no different if it goes down that way.

I'm fine with either Robinson, Watkins or Richardson.

I'd even take Moncrief on a cheap 1-2 year deal as well.

I wonder if Veach is interested in moving Conley. You can't really play him out of the slot. Or maybe they just don't think he'll be 100% ready at the beginning of the season.

Young, underproductive and expensive.

Perfect combo.

Yeah, that 5th rounder, Ty Hill, what a bust.

Never count on young WR's.

After the 2019 season is over the following players will be FA’s:

Tyreek Hill
Chris Jones
Reggie Ragland
Kendall Fuller

Veach can’t afford to make the mistake Dorsey did and wait. He’s got to start extending these guys as early as next Spring....and they won’t be cheap.

ROFL

I can only laugh at how short fused you are. Glad to know you live in LA, again, though!

Atleast with the young part you’ve got a chance to actually pay for future production vs prior

He’ll get his chances here with pat and hill Kelce and hunt

I’d go a different direction but sadly, they haven’t asked me my opinion

Why was he 5th rounder again?

If you seriously are counting on Chesson or Robinson... :facepalm:

As of right now, 1 of those players is on track to make big money

Any contract they sign Watkins or another WR to is going to be one they can move on from after two years anyways. I don’t think they’d regret it, but if they did.

Dane—you say your buddy heard Watkins was a huge headache. If that’s the case, why are the Rams ‘aggressively ‘ trying to retain him?

Ragland is an ILB that’s had half a good season, Jones hasn’t been the most reliable and fuller is going into his 3rd year with 1 good season under his belt.

I’m all for keeping our own but it’s not time yet

Because McVay has shown that he has no problem with "players with issues"?

Ragland is also a 2-down ILB until proven otherwise. Not exactly something you sink a huge cost into.

I still think it’s gonna be Odell

:)

Mark it down

Did you see what Mahomes did for Albert Wilson? How about Demetrius Harris?

Do not give Watkins stupid money unless we can come out clean after 2019. I don’t want to sink money long term on this guy.

He hasn’t coached Peters or Talib yet, nor has he extended their contracts.

Thats the tricky part, if you wait you end up with Houston/Berry situation. You have to sign early to really manage the cap well. Risky I know.

If they’re doing it, they don’t think very highly of the current WRs I’d imagine

Ragland is overrated on here, honestly. We haven’t even saw him cover backs or TEs yet cause he never played 3rd downs and everyone thinks he’s the next DJ.

With the others maybe.

Unless Ragland turns into kuechly, I don’t think he’ll get a crazy desl

I wouldn’t mind Watkins for 2 years, but I would put higher priority on trading for a known young defensive player and extending them.

Your comment was ****ing absolute bullshit.

Last year, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Cooper Cupp and Keelan Cole had as many or more receiving yards than Watkins.

Chris Godwin had 521, Trent Taylor had 440 and they were rookies as well.

There is just no way to justify spending $10 million per on Sammy ****ing Watkins.

:facepalm:

Suggestions?

I was looking around for some recently

Short fused? You're a punkass 20 year old kid that thinks he has all the answers in every ****ing thread.

Good luck with that.

Let me know when Ragland has proven he can be a 3-down LB.

And because the Pegula's, McDermott and Beane wanted a "clean" lockerroom to start the new regime.

I'd say it worked out pretty well, considering they made the playoffs for the first time since 1999.

I'm still driving that "Trade for Mychal Kendricks" train.

Lol, well, you’re wrong... but besides that...

Way to confirm that you are in fact a raging lunatic, yet again. Hopefully you are on a watchlist. LMAO

This regime has never seriously invested in a WR through the draft. Trading up for Conley in mid rd 3 was it and or conservative QB criminally misused him.

Matt Miller mocked James Washington to us in rd 2 last week and he often says he goes by what he hears.

They clearly want a receiver. I just hope they are smart about getting him.

Ragland tore his ACL in August 2016. The Chiefs brought him along slowly in 2017 and his snaps increased each game in the second half of the season.

He'll have plenty of time to "prove" that he'll be a 3 down linebacker when he's 100%.

JFC, you're moron, but we all knew that.

Congrats.

For sure

But I wouldn’t be thinking about an extension until he does one way or the other

Yep.

You'd think that the Chiefs under Reid would have learned their lesson about heavily investing in a free agent wide receiver but time will tell.

None of these free agent WR's are "clean". Watkins has been constantly injured and his numbers were pedestrian at best the last two seasons and Allen Robinson is coming off an ACL tear.

It's going to be interesting to see what Veach decides to do but I'd rather they invest in the draft and not in FA.

I remember reading somewhere that Andy didn’t value taking WRs high but that was also written a year or two after he took Jackson and Maclin

Sheesh, level this thread for an hour and it’s a powder keg

I'd love to draft St. Brown (homer alert)....but I think he's going to go higher than we can afford to take him.

Did we?

Or is that just another one of your hundred separate personal attacks you have filed away on a notepad somewhere anytime someone on CP disagrees with you?

If Watkins is such an incredible talent, why did the Rams choose to franchise a 5’8” midget Safety with 3 career INT’s over him?

Does that not scream “red flag” to you?

I wouldn't exactly say "thinking" but best case scenario is that he'll be eligible for an extension after the 2018 season and if he balls out in 2019, he'll get likely get a sizable deal after the 2019 season.

It would be a good problem to have.

You're just talking out of your ass, which is what is so annoying.

You have zero information about Watkins, other than what you read on the internet, yet you know what's best for the Chiefs.

Right.