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Bugeater 06-07-2010 12:48 PM

Shit just got real.

Frazod 06-07-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6804215)
I didn't lose my phone in the toilet I lost it in the bottomless black hole that is your...
ah never mind, no need to make fat boy cry and try to issue me infraction notices.
Tell me, do you place pork rinds around your stub as a means of foreplay?

You sure have been on here a lot lately - much more than somebody that has such a purported wonderful life should be. What's up with that? Did the old lady leave you for Carlos the pool boy because she wanted to **** a real man for a change?

KChiefs1 06-07-2010 12:53 PM

http://missouri.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1091865

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POWERED UP: Calling the Bully's Bluff

Gabe DeArmond
PowerMizzou.com Publisher

Look up the word "bully" and here are the definitions you get:

--browbeat: discourage or frighten with threats or a domineering manner; intimidate

--strong-arm: be bossy towards

--a cruel and brutal fellow

If you're involved with the Big XII Conference, the word bully needs just one word to give you an accurate definition: Texas. Or Longhorn. Either one will work.

As the world of conference realignment turns, one thing is becoming crystal clear: The Texas Longhorns are big bullies. And the bully doesn't like it when someone questions his power.

Now, listen, Texas has power. Don't doubt that. The Longhorns make more money than any athletic department in America. Their football team is great. Their basketball team (last season notwithstanding) is very good. The softball and baseball teams are great. They have a virtual money printing machine down in Austin. They're the big boy on the block. I'm not questioning that.

But suddenly in the last few months, it hasn't been Texas holding every card in the Big XII deck. When talk of Big Ten expansion surfaced last December, Missouri and Nebraska suddenly found themselves sitting on a pretty nice hand. Texas doesn't like that. Not much at all. See, when you're Texas and you sit down at the table, you're supposed to know you're going to win. The deck is stacked, the dice are loaded, use any analogy you want. It's not gambling if you know you're going to win. And Texas has known for quite a few years that it was going to win. As a friend put it this morning, "Texas is like the kid who was born standing on third base and tells everyone he hit a triple."

I'm not saying it's impossible to fail at Texas. There are coaches who have done it. But it's a lot tougher to fail in Austin than it is at Missouri or Nebraska or Colorado or really just about anywhere else in college sports. Geographically, monetarily, and in just about any other manner you can find, the Longhorns have a head start on everyone else.

That is especially true in the current Big XII setup. When the old Southwest Conference broke up because they could hardly field a full league due to probation, Texas came into the Big XII. It took them a few years, but the planted the conference offices in Dallas, and they used their position inside the state that provides more than 50% of the league's football talent to take over. The Horns run the show in the Big XII. Anybody that says differently just doesn't pay much attention.

And suddenly, Missouri and Nebraska had some leverage. The rumors flew that the Big Ten was interested. Some will say the league has already offered the Tigers and Huskers behind the scenes (and I think it's very possible). Some will say the 12-to-18 month timetable holds true and no one is sure. But it doesn't much matter right now. The fact is, it appears that Missouri and Nebraska have options. Texas doesn't like that. The bully doesn't want the kid he picks on to have a chance to be friends with the strongest kid in the lunch line. Because then the bully might have to start paying for his own meals.

So what does the bully do? He starts kicking and screaming and yelling at everyone who will listen. In this case, he plants stories in the Lone Star State media insinuating that Missouri and Nebraska better do their business or vacate the pot. Thus the "ultimatum" that was supposedly thrown out at the Big XII meetings.

But I ask: What is an ultimatum without consequences? Let's say it's true Missouri and Nebraska have a week to pledge loyalty to the Big XII (and I'm not too sure it is). You then have to say, what are the consequences? According to reports, the consequences are that Texas takes its ball and five other schools to the PAC-10.

AND THE CONGREGATION SAID, "AMEN."

You ask me, that's the best possible scenario. The PAC-10 becomes a 16-team league. That means the Big Ten has to react and react big. So that league goes to 16 as well. And if that league goes to 16, Missouri and Nebraska will both be invited. Period. Don't let the press in Texas and Oklahoma convince you otherwise. If it goes to 16, it also very likely includes Notre Dame. Multiple sources have indicated to me that Notre Dame isn't likely to jump to the Big Ten if they're the only one jumping. The Irish only align themselves with a conference if they see that we're moving toward superconferences and remaining independent leaves them out in the cold. A 16-team PAC-10 and a 16-team Big Ten would certainly be an indication we're moving that way.

So, if the Big XII South becomes the PAC-10 East, then Missouri and Nebraska still land where they want to land: In a conference without a bully as powerful as Texas that pays them more money to be members. In addition, they get to say, "Hey, we didn't do this. We only left the Big XII when Texas broke it up and there was no more Big XII to join." Best case scenario in Columbia and Lincoln.

Texas is throwing down ultimatums and threatening to abandon ship (does anyone else see the irony of an ultimatum that basically says, "You better not look around because if you do, we're going to look around too?). But, really, leaving the Big XII is the last thing Texas should want. What other league offers them a front row seat to football talent that is far superior to the rest of the league? What other league will let them host the conference championship-and a chance to play for the national title-just a hop and a skip from their own campus? What other league is going to be run by a guy that has his nose so far up the Horns' hindquarters that he can't see he's pissing off the rest of the schools he is supposed to protect? What other league will allow the Longhorns not only to take the biggest slice of the conference revenue pie, but also openly explore getting their own television network. What other league? None.

No, make no mistake, the best thing for Texas is if the Big XII stays around. So the Longhorns throw around their weight. And, as I said, it's substantial weight. And they hope, as bullies do, that all the blustering and yelling and scare tactics work. They hope somebody in Columbia and Lincoln and Boulder looks around and says, "Uh-oh, we just made the big guy mad." And they hope those schools cave.

Maybe they will. But while Texas is busy leaking every possible armageddon possibility to the media, the people in Lincoln and Columbia remain oddly quiet. While everyone in the Lone Star State is trying to convince us the end of college sports as we know it is here, Tom Osborne and Harvey Perlman and Mike Alden and Brady Deaton have stood silently on the sidelines, offering up that they are "proud members of the Big XII" and other similarly non-revealing quotes. Despite everyone complaining that the Tigers and the Huskers aren't "on the plane" and one media member referencing "Missouri's undignified groveling and whining," the next quote I see from anyone associated with Missouri or Nebraska that they want out will be the first.

Maybe they know something we don't. Maybe they're content to sit back with the cards they have and let it play out. Hopefully, they are. It would be a shame to see the Tigers or the Huskers fold on a full house because Texas convinced everyone its pair of sevens could take the pot by yelling real loud.

At some point, you have to stand up to the bully. It's time for the other 11 schools in the Big XII to do just that. Let Friday at 5 p.m. pass without a single word. Let the PAC-10 offer Texas a spot. See what the bully does when the weaklings challenge him to throw the first punch.

Pablo 06-07-2010 12:53 PM

If you think I'm funny
Then you don't owe my money
Shit's about to get ugly
**** it dog, I'm hungry

kepp 06-07-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6804247)
Shit just got real.

ROFL

vailpass 06-07-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6804248)
You sure have been on here a lot lately - much more than somebody that has such a purported wonderful life should be. What's up with that? Did the old lady leave you for Carlos the pool boy because she wanted to **** a real man for a change?

:D Frazzy trying to throw woman smack. You go big boy! (but wipe the cake crumbs off your shirt first).

KChiefs1 06-07-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6804129)

here's the article...basketball has no pull in this.

Quote:

The Pac-10 is interested in as many as six Big 12 schools. They are Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and either Colorado or Baylor. Meantime, the Big Ten is considering two Big 12 schools for its expansion plans. They are Nebraska and Missouri. Which means 75 percent of the Big 12's current members are possible targets of leagues anxious to grow.

And Kansas isn't one of them.

Think about that.

Kansas -- home of a top five basketball program by most historical and current measuring sticks -- is no more of a player in the eat-or-be-eaten game of conference realignment than Iowa State or Kansas State. Or even Kennesaw State, really. And though none of this is a grand revelation -- the ACC, remember, didn't worry much about hoops when it raided the Big East back in 2003 -- it is most certainly a reminder that the future of college athletics will be decided without a single thought to how it affects college basketball.

Or one of college basketball's premier programs.

That Kansas is an afterthought in this madness despite winning a national title in 2008, spending much of last season ranked No. 1 and entering next season as owners of 147-game streak of sellouts at the 16,300-seat Allen Fieldhouse supports what I've said for years: College basketball is closer to college baseball than college football in terms of the importance placed on the things that will shape leagues.

All that matters is football and TV markets. That's it. If the Pac-10 and Big Ten -- or, down the road, the SEC -- end up with some nice basketball additions when everything settles, it will be a bonus for basketball fans of those leagues, but nothing more. Again, basketball just doesn't register, not even KU's elite basketball program, which is about as important as Cal State-Fullerton's elite baseball program to the conference leaders backstabbing each other in the name of greed.

How irrelevant is Kansas basketball in expansion?

So irrelevant that Notre Dame football will likely decide its future.

That's crazy but true.

There's now some thought that much of this insanity could be avoided if Notre Dame would agree to join the Big Ten because the Big Ten would then stop at 12 schools, at which point Nebraska wouldn't have anywhere to go, at which point Texas would commit to staying in the Big 12, at which point the Big 12 would survive. But if Notre Dame sticks to being an independent, the Big Ten will likely at least offer membership to Nebraska. And if Nebraska goes to the Big Ten, Texas and five others will almost certainly move to the Pac-10, at which point the Big 12 would cease to exist.

And then what?

Kansas to the Big East?

Maybe.

But there's no guarantee the Big East will be around in three years because if the Pac-10 and Big Ten go to 16 schools, the SEC might raid the ACC to get to 16, at which point the ACC would likely again raid the Big East, at which point the Big East could cease to exist just like the Big 12.

Would that lead to Kansas in the ACC?

Or the Mountain West?

(If it's the latter, good luck turning a big profit by scalping stolen league tournament tickets.)

Honestly, it's difficult to project where this is headed because uncertainty will reign until we know for certain what Notre Dame and Nebraska are going to do. The only guarantee is that all the history inside Allen Fieldhouse won't have a thing to do with determining KU's future conference affiliation, either way, because though Kansas is huge in the world of college basketball, what we've been reminded over the past week is that Kansas basketball, great as it is, hardly matters in the revenue-driven, football-centered larger world of college athletics.

CrazyPhuD 06-07-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6804217)
FCUK ALL U PUSSIEZ IN THIS THREAD.

LETZ ALL MEAT AT SIZZLER PARKING LOT AND ILL SPLIT U FROM YOUR SHIT-TALKER TO UR ASSHOLE.

wait I'm confused what if my shit talker is my asshole?

Tiger's Fan 06-07-2010 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6803783)
ROFLROFL


oh wait...

ROFL


Kansas National Championships

Men's Basketball
1922 Helms Basketball Champion
1923 Helms Basketball Champion
1952
1988
2008

Men's Cross Country
1953

Men's Indoor Track
1966
1969
1970

Men's Outdoor Track
1959
1960
1970






Missouri

Baseball
1954

Indoor Track and Field (Men)
1965

Yep, looks comparable to me.

Signed / Fraudzod, "athletic supporter"

Frazod 06-07-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6804274)
:D Frazzy trying to throw woman smack. You go big boy! (but wipe the cake crumbs off your shirt first).

Hey, I can't blame her. She probably doesn't want her kids to grow up to be pussies.

Frazod 06-07-2010 01:05 PM

And here's Buster! All my friends are here now! :grouphug:

baitism 06-07-2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6804296)
Yep, looks comparable to me.

Signed / Fraudzod, "athletic supporter"

Im sure MU fans are intimidated by your cross country and track titles, as well as your basketball championships that happened before my dad was born.

Frazod 06-07-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 6804313)
Im sure MU fans are intimidated by your cross country and track titles, as well as your basketball championships that happened before my dad was born.

Yes, I was just about to move to Kansas. Boy, they're Awesome. LMAO

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:07 PM

Espn OTL

"The Big 10 is only talking to Notre Dame right now and will wait for an answer from them before moving on to MU/Neb"

"Law makers in Texas are moving to force Baylor link to Texas in any move"

CrazyPhuD 06-07-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6804296)
Yep, looks comparable to me.

Signed / Fraudzod, "athletic supporter"

Hey they left out the most recent MU national championship.

1997 Cheerleading

Pants 06-07-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 6804319)
Hey they left out the most recent MU national championship.

1997 Cheerleading

LMAO

Bambi 06-07-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6804045)
I wasn't offended by the "wandering jew" line because it was obvious you were referencing the plant. The joke, which itself should have been pretty easy to figure out, was that I was pretending to not understand your meaning. This isn't exactly KU Med-level curriculum here.

I thought that was a possibility. Just a misscommunication.

Reerun_KC 06-07-2010 01:10 PM

http://www.findagrave.com/photos250/...8036574254.jpg

Well..........Bye............

Tiger's Fan 06-07-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 6804313)
Im sure MU fans are intimidated by your cross country and track titles, as well as your basketball championships that happened before my dad was born.

Those things are like gold compared to say, nothing?

BTW, was your dad born before '88?

Pablo 06-07-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 6804319)
Hey they left out the most recent MU national championship.

1997 Cheerleading

Well now we clearly can't use the "win something, anything" line.

Thanks a lot.

Pablo 06-07-2010 01:13 PM

I think mu's supposed to be good at that WWF sport.

Pants 06-07-2010 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6804343)
I think mu's supposed to be good at that WWF sport.

ROFL

Bambi 06-07-2010 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 6804284)
here's the article...basketball has no pull in this.

Actually the article online reads:

(If it's the latter, good look turning a big profit by scalping stolen league tournament tickets.)

Pretty bad typo if this guys so smart.

next...

Tiger's Fan 06-07-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 6804319)
Hey they left out the most recent MU national championship.

1997 Cheerleading

Wonder when that video goes on sale?

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:16 PM

ideally

big 10 won't make an official offer to MU/Neb because they are waiting for ND.

MU/Neb will be force to make a decision on the Big 12 before they get a concrete offer from the Big 10.

MU/Neb calls the Big 12 bluff and tells them to go get ****ed

Notre Dame decides to join the Big 10

Big 10 tells MU/Neb too bad, so sad

MU/Neb are left out in the cold to die in a fire

everyone in the NCAA points and laughs

http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/im...psons-haha.jpg

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:16 PM

Nick Wright is saying that Kansas won't be relevant if the big 12 folds and KU is left out, is that true? Saying that they can be "memphis"...thoughts?

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804353)
ideally

big 10 won't make an official offer to MU/Neb because they are waiting for ND.

MU/Neb will be force to make a decision on the Big 12 before they get a concrete offer from the Big 10.

MU/Neb calls the Big 12 bluff and tells them to go get ****ed

Notre Dame decides to join the Big 10

Big 10 tells MU/Neb too bad, so sad

MU/Neb are left out in the cold to die in a fire

everyone in the NCAA points and laughs

http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/im...psons-haha.jpg

Is it me, or do the KU fans including Fescoe's dumbass drooling that MU will get ****ed over bad in the longrun, even though they are looking out for themselves just like KU would do or any other school. I feel Missouri will be fine.

Bambi 06-07-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804354)
Nick Wright is saying that Kansas won't be relevant if the big 12 folds and KU is left out, is that true? Saying that they can be "memphis"...thoughts?

I love this not relevant talk.

I don't care who the f u c k cares about Kansas. As long as they keep winning titles what does it matter?

Look at Michigan. They've got more fans then anyone and are a huge factor in everything college.

But they suck at everything.

Reerun_KC 06-07-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804360)
Is it me, or do the KU fans including Fescoe's dumbass drooling that MU will get ****ed over bad in the longrun, even though they are looking out for themselves just like KU would do or any other school. I feel Missouri will be fine.

All the schools will be fine...

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804354)
Nick Wright is saying that Kansas won't be relevant if the big 12 folds and KU is left out, is that true? Saying that they can be "memphis"...thoughts?

what do you mean by relevant?

KU is a borderline BCS level conference school

on their own, KU might be able to get into a BCS level Conference

tied to KSU their chances are almost zero

most likely if the Big 12 dissolves KU and KSU end up in a middle tier conference.

Bambi 06-07-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6804366)
All the schools will be fine...

If Texas joins the Pac-10 I'll eat my hat!

luv 06-07-2010 01:20 PM

Anyone trolling have anything worthwhile to contribute?

Pants 06-07-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804353)
ideally

big 10 won't make an official offer to MU/Neb because they are waiting for ND.

MU/Neb will be force to make a decision on the Big 12 before they get a concrete offer from the Big 10.

MU/Neb calls the Big 12 bluff and tells them to go get ****ed

Notre Dame decides to join the Big 10

Big 10 tells MU/Neb too bad, so sad

MU/Neb are left out in the cold to die in a fire

everyone in the NCAA points and laughs

Big 12 would probably extend an invitation back to Nebraska after deliberating it a little bit.

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6804366)
All the schools will be fine...

I feel this way too, i think its a bunch of BS about everything going to hell basically...i just want this shit over with.

Pablo 06-07-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804367)

tied to KSU their chances are almost zero

The anchor sinking us to the bottom of the lake.

Pants 06-07-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804354)
Nick Wright is saying that Kansas won't be relevant if the big 12 folds and KU is left out, is that true? Saying that they can be "memphis"...thoughts?

I've been saying this the whole time. What do you mean by "thoughts"?

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 6804371)
Anyone trolling have anything worthwhile to contribute?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804318)
according to Espn OTL

"The Big 10 is only talking to Notre Dame right now and will wait for an answer from them before moving on to MU/Neb"

"Law makers in Texas are moving to force Baylor link to Texas in any move"

.

Tiger's Fan 06-07-2010 01:23 PM

A top 3 NCAA basketball program will retain their prestige ANYWHERE they land.

Memphis never won anything, in anything. You know, mizzou like.

Reerun_KC 06-07-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804373)
I feel this way too, i think its a bunch of BS about everything going to hell basically...i just want this shit over with.

I have a feeling it will be a 3-5 year **** fest that will drive everyone bat shit crazy...

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6804379)
I've been saying this the whole time. What do you mean by "thoughts"?

What im talking about is....will this really happen? I haven't really followed this thread at all, and am just listening in to the latest rumblings about mu and nebraska having a deadline. This shit just annoys me and i was just curious if KU really would be in trouble or do KU fans feel that way

Pablo 06-07-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6804384)
A top 3 NCAA basketball program will retain their prestige ANYWHERE they land.

Memphis never won anything, in anything. You know, mizzou like.

Hey now, mu obviously won the "Only big school in a populous state" championship.

luv 06-07-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804383)
.

You're not trolling, babe. I'm talking to the ones who see that frazod has posted and feel the need to MU bash. And frazod, I'm getting on to you, too. :p

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804388)
What im talking about is....will this really happen? I haven't really followed this thread at all, and am just listening in to the latest rumblings about mu and nebraska having a deadline. This shit just annoys me and i was just curious if KU really would be in trouble or do KU fans feel that way

i'm worried all to hell because i think KU/KSU are tied together and i don't see any BCS level conference will be willing to take both in a package deal.

if the Big 12 implodes then i think KU gets stuck in a mid tier conference

it will suck

Pants 06-07-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804388)
What im talking about is....will this really happen? I haven't really followed this thread at all, and am just listening in to the latest rumblings about mu and nebraska having a deadline. This shit just annoys me and i was just curious if KU really would be in trouble or do KU fans feel that way

If B12 falls apart, we end up in MWC, I think. So, in short, I guess we would be worse off. We'll still remain competitive in basketball, which is all I really care about.

Pablo 06-07-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804388)
What im talking about is....will this really happen? I haven't really followed this thread at all, and am just listening in to the latest rumblings about mu and nebraska having a deadline. This shit just annoys me and i was just curious if KU really would be in trouble or do KU fans feel that way

KU will be fine in basketball, regardless if we're in the Big 12, WAC, MWC, MVC, Independent...whatever.

We need to be in the Big 12 if we ever want a respectable football program.

luv 06-07-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6804402)
If B12 falls apart, we end up in MWC, I think. So, in short, I guess we would be worse off. We'll still remain competitive in basketball, which is all I really care about.

Yep, looks like the only way the MWC plans on expanding is if Big 12 schools need a place to go.

Reerun_KC 06-07-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804388)
What im talking about is....will this really happen? I haven't really followed this thread at all, and am just listening in to the latest rumblings about mu and nebraska having a deadline. This shit just annoys me and i was just curious if KU really would be in trouble or do KU fans feel that way

Eeh, Not really, they are still a marque basketball program... Regardless of where they land, it wont change much.

Football is another story...

ChiTown 06-07-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6804374)
The anchor sinking us to the bottom of the lake.

PhogTard alert!

You guys are delusional

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 6804395)
You're not trolling, babe. I'm talking to the ones who see that frazod has posted and feel the need to MU bash. And frazod, I'm getting on to you, too. :p

dang it, apparently i need to swing my internet dick will more reckless abandon

Frazod 06-07-2010 01:27 PM

Despite all the trash in this thread, I'll just say that more than anything I wish we could just shitcan all the Texas schools and go back to being the Big 8.

Too bad that doesn't seem to be an option.

luv 06-07-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804410)
dang it, apparently i need to swing my internet dick will more reckless abandon

One of these days, you might find the hole! :p

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:28 PM

I hear you guys, hopefully this crap is done soon, i hope every school ends up in good shape.

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6804409)
PhogTard alert!

You guys are delusional

and you are floating down the river of denial if you don't think that KSU isn't going to **** KU if the Big 12 basically ceases to exist.

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6804408)
Eeh, Not really, they are still a marque basketball program... Regardless of where they land, it wont change much.

Football is another story...

Yeah, i'd be a little irritated with that, good thing for basketball though and that tradition. Won't hurt as much.

luv 06-07-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804418)
I hear you guys, hopefully this crap is done soon, i hope every B12 North school ends up in good shape.

FYP

Pablo 06-07-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6804409)
PhogTard alert!

You guys are delusional

Sarcasm.

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 6804417)
One of these days, you might find the hole! :p

not likely :sulk:

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6804416)
Despite all the trash in this thread, I'll just say that more than anything I wish we could just shitcan all the Texas schools and go back to being the Big 8.

Too bad that doesn't seem to be an option.

LMAO the big 8, memories

Pitt Gorilla 06-07-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6804416)
Despite all the trash in this thread, I'll just say that more than anything I wish we could just shitcan all the Texas schools and go back to being the Big 8.

Too bad that doesn't seem to be an option.

I disagree. I'm really excited about the possibility of the Big 10 and will be disappointed if that doesn't happen.

luv 06-07-2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804427)
not likely :sulk:

I have faith in you.

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:31 PM

Another stupid question since i havent followed shit...lets say all hell breaks loose and there is the split, mu and nebraska move on to big 10. Does that mean everything is new starting this coming year (football and basketball seasons starting..) or the following year?

DeezNutz 06-07-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6804416)
Despite all the trash in this thread, I'll just say that more than anything I wish we could just shitcan all the Texas schools and go back to being the Big 8.

Too bad that doesn't seem to be an option.

I don't. If we had to live through the bullshit that is the Big XII to end up in the Big 10 on the other side, it's been an extremely productive 15 or so years.

No doubt athletic $$ and TV viewership are primarily driving this thing, but don't look past the academic benefits.

ChiTown 06-07-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804420)
and you are floating down the river of denial if you don't think that KSU isn't going to **** KU in the Big 12 basically ceases to exist.

ROFL Huh?

Tiger's Fan 06-07-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6804416)
Despite all the trash in this thread, I'll just say that more than anything I wish we could just shitcan all the Texas schools and go back to being the Big 8.

Too bad that doesn't seem to be an option.

I'll give you that. We (the original conference members) were sold down the red river.

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6804436)
I don't. If we had to live through the bullshit that is the Big XII to end up in the Big 10 on the other side, it's been an extremely productive 15 or so years.

No doubt athletic $$ and TV viewership are primarily driving this thing, but don't look past the academic benefits.

Definetly look forward to the big 10 if this happens

KChiefs1 06-07-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6804350)
Actually the article online reads:

(If it's the latter, good look turning a big profit by scalping stolen league tournament tickets.)

Pretty bad typo if this guys so smart.

next...

I know it drove me crazy so I had to fix it. It's true though...basketball has no part in these discussions.

kepp 06-07-2010 01:33 PM

So what if Texas and it's Big12 South cohorts all jump to the Pac10 and the Big10 invites never materialize for MU/NU? What about the Big12 grabbing TCU, and one other school (who?) and getting back to being the Big8?

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6804435)
Another stupid question since i havent followed shit...lets say all hell breaks loose and there is the split, mu and nebraska move on to big 10. Does that mean everything is new starting this coming year (football and basketball seasons starting..) or the following year?

i think MU/Neb have to give a 2-year notice to leave the conference. The Conference might just say we don't want lame duck schools hanging around.


of course, money changes everything so ...

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6804448)
i think MU/Neb have to give a 2-year notice to leave the conference. The Conference might just say we don't lame duck schools hanging around.


of course, money changes everything so ...

Gotcha...

luv 06-07-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6804447)
So what if Texas and it's Big12 South cohorts all jump to the Pac10 and the Big10 invites never materialize for MU/NU? What about the Big12 grabbing TCU, and one other school (who?) and getting back to being the Big8?

I don't see this ever going back to 8 teams. Aren't conference championship games too popular?

Tiger's Fan 06-07-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6804447)
So what if Texas and it's Big12 South cohorts all jump to the Pac10 and the Big10 invites never materialize for MU/NU? What about the Big12 grabbing TCU, and one other school (who?) and getting back to being the Big8?

An 8 team conference probably wouldn't retain BCS status.

Mojo Jojo 06-07-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6804374)
The anchor sinking us to the bottom of the lake.

What does KU offer a major conference? Sure basketball is good/great, but they offer 1/2 of the #32 TV market...the sports programs has been suspended on several occasions. Right now the Athletic Department is under federal investigation...the AD is fighting for his job. A lot of headaches for a conference to add a team that has won 3 titles in over 100 years.

kepp 06-07-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6804456)
An 8 team conference probably wouldn't retain BCS status.

NCAA rules state that it only takes 6.

ChiTown 06-07-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6804447)
So what if Texas and it's Big12 South cohorts all jump to the Pac10 and the Big10 invites never materialize for MU/NU? What about the Big12 grabbing TCU, and one other school (who?) and getting back to being the Big8?

An 8 team Conference won't compete in the new Mega Conference BC$ World

ChiTown 06-07-2010 01:38 PM

Laz
 
So, KSU is the reason KU isn't going to get invited somewhere else (PAC 10, B10 and SEC)? KU, even if KSU didn't exist, still wouldn't be a part of this conversation. Hence, delusional. This is a football and TV Market issue. KU is 0-2 in that discussion.

Sure-Oz 06-07-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6804477)
So, KSU is the reason KU isn't going to get invited somewhere else (PAC 10, B10 and SEC)? KU, even if KSU didn't exist, still wouldn't be a part of this conversation. Hence, delusional. This is a football and TV Market issue. KU is 0-2 in that discussion.

Something about the tv markets not even being close to what missouri has and well nebraska has a huge football program. Thats why colorado would get invited cause of denver.

Bambi 06-07-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6804416)
Despite all the trash in this thread, I'll just say that more than anything I wish we could just shitcan all the Texas schools and go back to being the Big 8.

Too bad that doesn't seem to be an option.

Agreed.

Pants 06-07-2010 01:47 PM

ND needs to stop being douchy and tell B10 what their plans are, so everything can be set in motion. This stupid deadline is a freaking charade.

Frazod 06-07-2010 01:51 PM

It's debatable what Texas thinks of MU or KU, but I have no doubt Notre Dame absolutely doesn't give two shits about either one of them (or any other school).

Mr. Laz 06-07-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6804477)
So, KSU is the reason KU isn't going to get invited somewhere else (PAC 10, B10 and SEC)? KU, even if KSU didn't exist, still wouldn't be a part of this conversation. Hence, delusional. This is a football and TV Market issue. KU is 0-2 in that discussion.

here we go again...

once again, KU is a marginally BCS level conference type school. Meaning that they qualify to be in a BCS level conference but barely. You add a link to another school into the mix and KU isn't getting in.

1. adding another school into package deal means another split to the profit pie in which KU is barely bringing enough to begin with

2. football ... KU is a low level football program but has a top notch basketball program, with a storied history, to offset the football weakness. You add another school to that equation and it's screwed.

KU barely has enough to get into a BCS level conference
KSU isn't a BCS conference level school (financially)

add those 2 schools together and neither get in

If the Big 12 implodes then KSU is going to a mid-tier conference one way or another. The only thing is whether they drag KU down with them.


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