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philfree 04-24-2025 10:51 PM

This is the newest chiefs planet great "debate" ......I love it!

Balto 04-24-2025 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18042442)
He's not paying attention. He's been spoon fed it a half dozen times and then just says 'nuh uh'

Nuh uh!

wannaGOback 04-24-2025 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 18042461)
I remember another young Chiefs draft pick who got a then unusual knee surgery called microfracture after playing only 1 game his rookie year.

People worried if he'd get his explosion back. He also had maturity issues.

Travis Kelce has been pretty good.

False equivalence. Good thing you weren’t on the debate team.

BigRedChief 04-24-2025 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 18042463)
He's so good our next QB will be a first ballot hall of famer, too.

It's going to be like having two Willie Roafs playing LT on every snap.

Teams will stop rushing anyone and drop everyone into coverage and we will run the ball on every snap.

That Ohio state RB had better be there tomorrow. Sounds like we can really use a RB that can take one to the house.

Balto 04-24-2025 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 18042446)
I don't think Simmons pre-injury is a better prospect than Campbell and Membou.

He would have been very good. Probably top 15. A very good LT prospect.

We don't know what Niang would have been pre-injury. A lot of teams really liked him before shit went south.

So the reports about his film being the best in the class is false?

DJ's left nut 04-24-2025 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 18042466)
He’s elite in pass pro

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Josh Simmons is the only OT in the SIS draft board stats database (since 2023) without a blown pass block in his draft season <a href="https://t.co/qR42DEPSJu">pic.twitter.com/qR42DEPSJu</a></p>&mdash; Shaun Newkirk (@Shauncore) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shauncore/status/1915616231828095104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He played half a season against a non-con slate.

Wow.

staylor26 04-24-2025 10:53 PM

Couldn't he already be juicing? Lol

Discuss Thrower 04-24-2025 10:54 PM

Only reason to like the pick is you can't really argue against Reid and Veach running personnel in the aggregate since KC has seven AFCCG appearances and three rings.


In a vacuum, however?

ForeverIowan 04-24-2025 10:55 PM

If you told me you'd pay me $1,000,000 if I picked a future HOFer from the 32 players selected tonight, and I could select five players from the group, Josh Simmons would have absolutely been one of my selections. His upside if healthy is best offensive lineman in the entire draft. If it doesnt work out, so be it.

We were never going to draft a franchise left tackle without taking a risk like this. This game of musical chairs would have gone on for the rest of Reid's tenure and Mahomes' career.

kccrow 04-24-2025 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 18042462)
You think Veach takes him if he only has a 13% chance to fully recover? They are expecting a full recovery this year st some point.

He just did. Historical data on the injury in the NFL doesn't change just because Veach or because Burkholder.

Veach admitted that Burkholder cringed when he first heard what the injury was. That should be telling. Burkholder's opinion is that the recovery "looks like a best-case scenario," but that doesn't mean that those odds suddenly disappear. It doesn't mean with absolution that he will work out to be a great player. Veach just has to damn well hope it is that best-case scenario that plays out in the end.

Would it be masterful if that scenario does play out and they do end up with a phenomenal tackle at pick 32? Sure, that'd be amazing.

There is an insane amount of risk at play here, far more than you'd consider normal. It's actually much worse than when people were clamoring for guys with Achilles ruptures a couple of years back, and the data screamed not to do it. Coincidentally, neither of those players has lived up to their scouting grades because of those injuries.

Balto 04-24-2025 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfan75 (Post 18042452)
He could have his leg amputated and play on a peg leg, and he's better than what we have.

Players that suffer a leg injury and play with a peg leg is about as rare as Simmons injury at his age/position.

Titty Meat 04-24-2025 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18042474)
He played half a season against a non-con slate.

Wow.

LMAO

But bro he dominated Akron!

BryanBusby 04-24-2025 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18042475)
Couldn't he already be juicing? Lol

I'm all for it. Load up on that deer antler spray.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2025 10:59 PM

look at the losers in this thread doubting the architects of our world famous dynasty

smithandrew051 04-24-2025 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18042475)
Couldn't he already be juicing? Lol

He better be


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