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Warpaint69 04-29-2024 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17503334)
If anyone suggests we should save money by letting Butker walk, that person should be kicked in the nuts.
I suffered through Carl trying to cheap out on the kicker position not resigning Lowery, I agree.

Hoover 04-29-2024 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17503332)
Zero chance I’d give Pacheco an extension.

Love the player, but he won’t last. Don’t love paying running backs anyway, but his style of play is even less conducive to longevity than other backs.

If you could flip out of him a year early for a mid round pick, I’d consider it. Or (preferably) just run him into the ground and let him walk. Then, maybe he comes back on a 1-year deal if no one pays him.
I'll say it again.

I would never, ever, give a running back a second contract.

I love Pacheco. He will be in the ring of honor. Not getting a second contract.

Hoover 04-29-2024 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17503343)
I suffered through Carl trying to cheap out on the kicker position not resigning Lowery, I agree.
I'd keep him before Bolton.

smithandrew051 04-29-2024 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17503345)
I'll say it again.

I would never, ever, give a running back a second contract.

I love Pacheco. He will be in the ring of honor. Not getting a second contract.
If there’s a back who REALLY protects themselves and is used more as a receiver at times, then sure.

A pure running back, no way.

O.city 04-29-2024 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17503345)
I'll say it again.

I would never, ever, give a running back a second contract.

I love Pacheco. He will be in the ring of honor. Not getting a second contract.
Ring of honor is strong.....He's a good RB but lets not get carried away here.

smithandrew051 04-29-2024 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17503343)
I suffered through Carl trying to cheap out on the kicker position not resigning Lowery, I agree.
When you look at the combination of power, accuracy, clutch, and titles, Butker is the best ever.

Pay him what it takes. The difference between him and the next guy won’t be substantial enough that it’s worth the savings.

PHOG 04-29-2024 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17503334)
If anyone suggests we should save money by letting Butker walk, that person should be kicked in the nuts.
By Mr. Butker himself!

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Sofa King 04-29-2024 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17503283)
Bolded are the ones I'd bring back. Obviously that depends on the deal.
I'm shocked you wouldnt put Bolton in there. He's young, cheaper position and he's good. Tranquill isn't doing his job. He's smaller, older and has injury issues.

Chenal will take on Drue's money when drue leaves IMO.

DJ's left nut 04-29-2024 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17503312)
McDuffie and Karlaftis, if things progress as they have, are gonna be highest paid at their positions type deals.....I'd think?
If that's what Karlaftis asks for, I let him test the market.

I mean highest paid at his position is Parsons/Bosa. I like George but he ain't THAT. Or anything like it.

He's a really nice secondary pass rusher but he's not someone you build a defense around.

As for McDuffie - yeah, probably. Try to get him signed before Gardner if possible.

O.city 04-29-2024 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17503371)
If that's what Karlaftis asks for, I let him test the market.

I mean highest paid at his position is Parsons/Bosa. I like George but he ain't THAT. Or anything like it.

He's a really nice secondary pass rusher but he's not someone you build a defense around.

As for McDuffie - yeah, probably. Try to get him signed before Gardner if possible.
I don't think George is that either, but with the seasons he's stacked up....if he progresses from year 2 to year 3 like 1-2......I don't see how he doesn't come asking for that.

Now you'd have a year, the 5th year option and a tag year so there's leverage there, but yeah.

smithandrew051 04-29-2024 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17503371)
If that's what Karlaftis asks for, I let him test the market.

I mean highest paid at his position is Parsons/Bosa. I like George but he ain't THAT. Or anything like it.

He's a really nice secondary pass rusher but he's not someone you build a defense around.

As for McDuffie - yeah, probably. Try to get him signed before Gardner if possible.
If Karlaftis gives you 4 years like we’ve seen so far (8-10 sacks and steady production), would you accept the Brian Burns trade comp for him?

An early second and a mid round pick the following year.

O.city 04-29-2024 10:34 AM
Hell, look with Brian Burns and Josh Allen got.

If Karlaftis stays on this track he's getting that....no?

smithandrew051 04-29-2024 10:35 AM
I really hope FAU proves to be a good pass rusher. That’ll make a tough decision with George more palatable.

The Franchise 04-29-2024 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17503370)
I'm shocked you wouldnt put Bolton in there. He's young, cheaper position and he's good. Tranquill isn't doing his job. He's smaller, older and has injury issues.

Chenal will take on Drue's money when drue leaves IMO.
I'm not shocked that I ****ed it up this morning. I meant to highlight Bolton and not Smith.


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