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DJ's left nut 04-29-2022 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16270718)
KC can add a more quick twitch bend type situational pass rusher later in the draft.

karlaftis is the guy you love watching on Sundays with his non-stop motor. His scouting report reads a lot like Tamba Hali's did - raw, non-stop player, maybe not fast or strong enough.

If Karlaftis learns to use his hands it will negate the short arm issue a bit. The non-stop motor is the key.
Yup.

He'll have to develop into one of those guys who just isn't very much fun to play against. Get heavy, violent hands that are constantly making OTs work through the whistle and by the 3rd/4th quarter they'll just get tired of it and start letting their technique slip.

He's not a guy that's going to be shot out of a cannon on the first snap for a strip/sack. He's water carving out a rock. He's just going to have to keep coming and coming and coming until the other guys will just slowly slips away.

duncan_idaho 04-29-2022 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16270701)
RAS is reeruned.

He's not twitchy and he's not winning with speed or bend around the edge. He's gonna be a puss/pull guy who powers through the OT. It's partially why he gets pressure so often but doesn't finish sacks.

He's just not terribly explosive. But again, that's okay. This is a guy that sets an outstanding foundation to build around. A solid, dependable player that allows you to take more aggressive swings at the other DE position on guys like Mafe, Jackson, Ojabo, Williams, etc...

And lets also not forget that he's a BABY. In a draft loaded w/ 23 and 24 year old rookies, this kid just turned 21 a few weeks ago. He could take 2 years to develop and still be younger than Mafe is now. He'd be the same age as Jermaine Johnson.

And from a football age standpoint, he's barely starting out. There are a lot of rough edges that can be refined that allow him to win on technique rather then bend and explosiveness going forward.
Yeah, I like the idea of pairing him with Drake Jackson a LOT. (Jackson turned 21 this month). The coolest thing about that pairing is that if you're thinking long-term, and you end up transitioning BACK to a 34 defense at some point, both of these guys fit with that, also. Jackson could easily play OLB and Karlaftis can play a 5-tech, easily.

He's not going to win with raw speed, but he can win with quickness and technique. His burst is pretty good (10 and 20-yard splits indicate that), and he does have quick hands.

staylor26 04-29-2022 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16270722)
Yup.

He'll have to develop into one of those guys who just isn't very much fun to play against. Get heavy, violent hands that are constantly making OTs work through the whistle and by the 3rd/4th quarter they'll just get tired of it and start letting their technique slip.

He's not a guy that's going to be shot out of a cannon on the first snap for a strip/sack. He's water carving out a rock. He's just going to have to keep coming and coming and coming until the other guys will just slowly slips away.
I want that Sam Williams George Karlaftis duo soooo bad

OnTheWarpath15 04-29-2022 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16270701)
RAS is reeruned.

He's not twitchy and he's not winning with speed or bend around the edge. He's gonna be a puss/pull guy who powers through the OT. It's partially why he gets pressure so often but doesn't finish sacks.

He's just not terribly explosive. But again, that's okay. This is a guy that sets an outstanding foundation to build around. A solid, dependable player that allows you to take more aggressive swings at the other DE position on guys like Mafe, Jackson, Ojabo, Williams, etc...

And lets also not forget that he's a BABY. In a draft loaded w/ 23 and 24 year old rookies, this kid just turned 21 a few weeks ago. He could take 2 years to develop and still be younger than Mafe is now. He'd be the same age as Jermaine Johnson.

And from a football age standpoint, he's barely starting out. There are a lot of rough edges that can be refined that allow him to win on technique rather then bend and explosiveness going forward.

And getting coaching from Joe Cullen?

YES PLEASE

staylor26 04-29-2022 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16270729)
And getting coaching from Joe Cullen?

YES PLEASE
The fact that Joe Cullen is now involved with these DL selections just makes me feel so much better.

If Karlaftis got drafted by the Ravens and he was there, is there any doubt that he would at least be a good player?

Fansy the Famous Bard 04-29-2022 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16269781)
he looks like he's missing a chromosome

i love it
Cant get it out my head

crispystl 04-29-2022 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16270419)
Both guys are top 15 type talents. Veach is swinging fire. I bet he’s making calls right now about moving up and down tomorrow. I bet he wants a couple picks in the 5th and 6th, too.
We're gonna get us a bad ass WR with that next pick.

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O.city 04-29-2022 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16270729)
And getting coaching from Joe Cullen?

YES PLEASE
That's good, but we've also had a good DL coach the past few years and haven't exactly been DL University.

He hasn't had the talent infusion in his defense though.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-29-2022 08:56 AM
The forking maroons in this thread will go down in infamy worse than ones in the Super Bowl thread - who I also correctly called out during that game, saying that they would live forever in infamy.

This kid is going to be one of the best defensive players in Chiefs history. Not just good, not just an all-pro...one of the best defensive players in the history of the franchise. Book it.

RunKC 04-29-2022 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16270722)
Yup.

He'll have to develop into one of those guys who just isn't very much fun to play against. Get heavy, violent hands that are constantly making OTs work through the whistle and by the 3rd/4th quarter they'll just get tired of it and start letting their technique slip.

He's not a guy that's going to be shot out of a cannon on the first snap for a strip/sack. He's water carving out a rock. He's just going to have to keep coming and coming and coming until the other guys will just slowly slips away.
This kid has 3 major things going for him that you can’t teach:

-Motor
-Elite lateral agility
-Work ethic

That lateral agility of his is gonna come in handy. It’s right there with Aidan Hutchinson. It’s elite. And his work ethic is going to help him get better. He went from 25% body fat to 15% body fat while getting to 272 lbs.

I listened to his interview and he said he knew strength wasn’t enough. He would lift and then go work on his hand work by practicing hand combat MMA moves.

His floor is really high and I’m fine with that. We desperately needed a worker like him especially with Frank Clark’s problems.

Love that he can play all over the line as well. Can easily see him lining up next to Chris Jones on some situations

staylor26 04-29-2022 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16270755)
That's good, but we've also had a good DL coach the past few years and haven't exactly been DL University.

He hasn't had the talent infusion in his defense though.
Cullen >>>>> Daly

Hammock Parties 04-29-2022 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16270758)
I listened to his interview and he said he knew strength wasn’t enough. He would lift and then go work on his hand work by practicing hand combat MMA moves.
White Tamba!

crispystl 04-29-2022 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 16270457)
I wasn’t sure about him last night but watching video this morning and learning a little about him has me rather intrigued with Karloftis. Anxious to see him in action now.
Could you upload a lower res signature photo? The one you're using is crashing my browser.

TIA

crispystl 04-29-2022 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16270459)
"He's not athletic enough"-He had a 9.28 RAS
"His tape sucks"-#3 in pressure rate in college football
"His arms are too short"- His arms are longer than Hutchinson

Some of you guys are just ****ing ridiculous.
I think we got a steal.


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