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siberian khatru 11-20-2007 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
What's really maddening about this is that Herm seems to think everyone expects the #1 offense.

WE DON'T. WE ARE NOT STUPID. WE REALIZE THAT IS GONE AND NOT COMING BACK.

The vast majority of fans would probably be satisfied with the offense as it produced last year.

I agree with this, too.

Most of the criticisms aren't of the "do the exact opposite" variety, i.e., "let's throw the ball 50 times a game."

Most critics, IMO, understand and accept Herm's strategy (at least in the Indy game). They just want to see some tactical changes. Go deep occasionally to loosen up the D. Call plays that force the D to defend the whole field. Throw on first down. Throw past the down markers. We have a QB now that, I think, can do that stuff better than the old one.

It's about how and when you pass, not how much. But when every pass is a virtual extension of the running game, you're not gonna accomplish much.

BigRock 11-20-2007 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
What's really maddening about this is that Herm seems to think everyone expects the #1 offense.

WE DON'T. WE ARE NOT STUPID. WE REALIZE THAT IS GONE AND NOT COMING BACK.

Do you read this forum? There's plenty of stupid people who don't realize that.

Buzz 11-20-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru
I agree with this, too.

Most of the criticisms aren't of the "do the exact opposite" variety, i.e., "let's throw the ball 50 times a game."

Most critics, IMO, understand and accept Herm's strategy (at least in the Indy game). They just want to see some tactical changes. Go deep occasionally to loosen up the D. Call plays that force the D to defend the whole field. Throw on first down. Throw past the down markers. We have a QB now that, I think, can do that stuff better than the old one.

It's about how and when you pass, not how much. But when every pass is a virtual extension of the running game, you're not gonna accomplish much.


and score some damn points!

siberian khatru 11-20-2007 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefanatic
and score some damn points!

Now you're just being unrealistic. That's Arena League stuff. This is the NFL, son.

Buzz 11-20-2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru
Now you're just being unrealistic. That's Arena League stuff. This is the NFL, son.


This team is such a joke. Did anyone else notice Terry Bradshaw giggle when the Chief’s were mentioned at halftime? Pathetic just pathetic.

FAX 11-20-2007 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru
I agree with this, too.

Most of the criticisms aren't of the "do the exact opposite" variety, i.e., "let's throw the ball 50 times a game."

Most critics, IMO, understand and accept Herm's strategy (at least in the Indy game). They just want to see some tactical changes. Go deep occasionally to loosen up the D. Call plays that force the D to defend the whole field. Throw on first down. Throw past the down markers. We have a QB now that, I think, can do that stuff better than the old one.

It's about how and when you pass, not how much. But when every pass is a virtual extension of the running game, you're not gonna accomplish much.

Well stated, Mr. siberian khatru. That's exactly how I feel.

Interestingly, none of those items necessarily lead to additional danger to Brodie from the baddies. In fact, they would reduce the danger.

FAX

HemiEd 11-20-2007 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter
If you judge him on what his says in his press conferences and his parrot like ability to repeat himself both in his words and actions I predict we'll see no more success under Herm than we did with Gunther.

Good point, they are the same people, but just look different.

TEX 11-20-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull
I find it amazing how a QB change reveals what the real problem on offense is?

I just remember last week, or a couple of weeks ago how many were bashing Huard. Croyle showed us he is better then Huard, and has upside, but just look how that shows and reveals who the real problem is?

Amazing.

I backed Huard, but he was part of the problem towards the end. However, you're correct in that Herm Edwards philosophy is the biggest offensive liability on this team. Has been from day one.

melbar 11-20-2007 07:23 PM

OK. So at the end of last year the high octane offense puts too much pressure on the D. Now the low octane Offense is putting too much pressure on the D. Which is it?

CoMoChief 11-20-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar
OK. So at the end of last year the high octane offense puts too much pressure on the D. Now the low octane Offense is putting too much pressure on the D. Which is it?

There was no high octane offense last season. I dont know what games you were watchin.

Rain Man 11-20-2007 07:33 PM

Herman Edwards thinks that Bill Belichick is really screwing up by scoring all those points.

Hammock Parties 11-20-2007 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Herman Edwards thinks that Bill Belichick is really screwing up by scoring all those points.

Rain Man, have your permanently altered you brain chemistry or something?

Rain Man 11-20-2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Rain Man, have your permanently altered you brain chemistry or something?

Have you ever heard about that phenomenon where people's hair turns white if they live through a highly traumatic event? Well, last Sunday turned my attitude white.

Hammock Parties 11-20-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Have you ever heard about that phenomenon where people's hair turns white if they live through a highly traumatic event? Well, last Sunday turned my attitude white.

What color was your attitude before?

Bearcat 11-20-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
What's really maddening about this is that Herm seems to think everyone expects the #1 offense.

WE DON'T. WE ARE NOT STUPID. WE REALIZE THAT IS GONE AND NOT COMING BACK.

The vast majority of fans would probably be satisfied with the offense as it produced last year.

The media needs to call him out on it, but lure him in...

Herm, your strategy worked well for 3 quarters, and really kept the team in the game. It was 10-10 after 3 quarters, and I know no one in this room thought that would happen [chuckle]. However, after Croyle had just driven the team down for a touchdown and forced the Colts to punt, you deferred on offense and gave the ball back to soon-HoF quarterback and commercial star Peyton Manning. You forced the Colts to punt again, yet deferred again. Exactly how many times would you have done that until you realized the Colts aren't going to do anything stupid either, and actually try to score points on offense?


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