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IowaHawkeyeChief 09-01-2024 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17656863)
So you'd accept Mahomes throwing four or five picks a game? Because that's the equivalent of what Clark is doing and that's why she lost back to back finals. It's fine putting up good offensive stats in the regular season but those turnovers become crucial when the bright lights shine in the playoffs and she needs to fix it because giving up the ball to the top teams will have you down big fast.

yes, Mahomes had turnovers last year and a pick 6 on passes that should have been caught... Caitlin's teammates were horrible early in the year and have been slightly better lately realizing they need to be aware they may receive the ball....

New World Order 09-01-2024 08:38 PM

Fever haven’t been above .500 since 2019.

Caitlin Clark is something we e never seen before in women’s basketball

chiefzilla1501 09-01-2024 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17656863)
So you'd accept Mahomes throwing four or five picks a game? Because that's the equivalent of what Clark is doing and that's why she lost back to back finals. It's fine putting up good offensive stats in the regular season but those turnovers become crucial when the bright lights shine in the playoffs and she needs to fix it because giving up the ball to the top teams will have you down big fast.

You do understand the difference between a turnover in a football game versus a basketball game that has many many many possessions right?

IowaHawkeyeChief 09-01-2024 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17656869)
You do understand the difference between a turnover in a football game versus a basketball game that has many many many possessions right?

of course he doesn't...

chiefzilla1501 09-01-2024 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17656864)
and as I just said, many of those passes should have been caught and counted as an assist with an easy layup...

To some extent but I think it’s overplayed in the second half of the season. I agree with you except when it’s used as an excuse to shit on her teammates.

UChieffyBugger 09-01-2024 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17656869)
You do understand the difference between a turnover in a football game versus a basketball game that has many many many possessions right?

That's why I said four or five picks. Clark is averaging seven to eight turnovers a game. It's historically bad but people want to make excuses for it which is weird to me. Folks are happy to praise the good parts but want to ignore the glaring deficiencies.

UChieffyBugger 09-01-2024 08:54 PM

And to those saying it's all about Clark and no-one else. Right now Mitchell has a better points per game average than Clark. So Mitchell deserves way more credit than she's getting.

New World Order 09-01-2024 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17656881)
That's why I said four or five picks. Clark is averaging seven to eight turnovers a game. It's historically bad but people want to make excuses for it which is weird to me. Folks are happy to praise the good parts but want to ignore the glaring deficiencies.

I’m sure they’d rather have 2 less turnovers per game and win about 5 games this year rather than being playoff bound.

BleedingRed 09-01-2024 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17656881)
That's why I said four or five picks. Clark is averaging seven to eight turnovers a game. It's historically bad but people want to make excuses for it which is weird to me. Folks are happy to praise the good parts but want to ignore the glaring deficiencies.

ROFL

Holy shit he doesn’t understand plus metrics. EIFL



Ahahahhahah dumb **** here doesn’t understand PGs that are this good average 5+ to


Ahahahaha

Megatron96 09-01-2024 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17656881)
That's why I said four or five picks. Clark is averaging seven to eight turnovers a game. It's historically bad but people want to make excuses for it which is weird to me. Folks are happy to praise the good parts but want to ignore the glaring deficiencies.



Uh, no. Turnovers in basketball aren't nearly as influential as T/Os in football. 7-8 turnovers in girls basketball is probably worth no more than 1-2 turnovers in football at most.

UChieffyBugger 09-01-2024 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17656887)
Uh, no. Turnovers in basketball aren't nearly as influential as T/Os in football. 7-8 turnovers in girls basketball is probably worth no more than 1-2 turnovers in football at most.

Most of her turnovers are costing her team points. And right now she's getting away with it. But like I keep saying they come home to roost in the playoffs. In the two finals she lost she had a combined TEN turnovers. The facts are the facts my friend.

IowaHawkeyeChief 09-01-2024 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17656902)
Most of her turnovers are costing her team points. And right now she's getting away with it. But like I keep saying they come home to roost in the playoffs. In the two finals she lost she had a combined TEN turnovers. The facts are the facts my friend.

and 5 of those should have been layups if her teammates caught the ball.

IowaHawkeyeChief 09-01-2024 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17656874)
To some extent but I think it’s overplayed in the second half of the season. I agree with you except when it’s used as an excuse to shit on her teammates.

it is getting better the 2nd half, but still not where it needs to be. Just like those that play with Mahomes, always be ready for the ball. Oh, and Caitlin would never shit on her teammates.

IowaHawkeyeChief 09-01-2024 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17656868)
Fever haven’t been above .500 since 2019.

Caitlin Clark is something we e never seen before in women’s basketball

and they started 2-9 this year... They are on fire right now.

Megatron96 09-01-2024 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17656902)
Most of her turnovers are costing her team points. And right now she's getting away with it. But like I keep saying they come home to roost in the playoffs. In the two finals she lost she had a combined TEN turnovers. The facts are the facts my friend.



Regardless, turnovers in basketball just don't affect the outcome of a game the way turnovers in football do. I forget the actual percentage, but when an average NFL team turns the ball over 3 or more times, the percentage chance of winning drops to nearly zero. In basketball, teams regularly turn the ball over 5-10 times a night, and it doesn't have that much effect on whether the team wins or loses. Yes, it costs them points, but not necessarily Ws. In football, every turnover can have huge implications.


Case in point, didn't the Fever win anyway?


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