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PAChiefsGuy 08-30-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17079626)
:spock: It has everything to do with money.

Originally yeah it was all about money but as TwistedChief has pointed out at this point I don't see how sitting out all these games will benefit him money wise short or long term. Although I could be wrong of course but I think things have gotten personal and he feels betrayed. So he wants to not play for the Chiefs as long as he possibly can.

RunKC 08-30-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17079799)
Hard for me to compare a dt to a de but that’s what he wants to be paid like so …..

Chris wants to be paid the same as the guy who stacked 5 straight double-digit sack seasons, NFL rookie of the year, 3X NFLDPOTY awards, 8 straight pro bowls, 7 straight 1st team All Pro's, 5.5 playoff sacks in the last 6 playoff games (2 years) as well as literally coming away with the sack that won them the SB.

The resumes don't line ups it's not even close. Chris has no claim to get anywhere near Aaron Donald money.

ghak99 08-30-2023 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17079787)
You would think seeing what Pat has done with his brand and how that can be more lucrative than game cheques he has Luke trying to copy him , but this is going to hurt his off the field/post retirement earning potential especially if he ends up finishing his career playing on a shitty team.

He's damn sure not selling BBQ sauce in KC for the next 20 years. At the rate he's going, he probably wouldn't even be able to sell used cars.

jettio 08-30-2023 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17079803)
When you have to negotiate directly with a player it isn't hard to get hurt feelings. A GM and an agent can talk about upside and downfalls and why said player falls into a certain tier.

It's much more precarious when you have to tell a guy who thinks he's your franchise player he isn't as good as he thinks he is.

But the guaranteed contract issue was not about belief in the player, that was about front office people belief in themselves not to do something that is not worth the risk to the team and that the player does not really need.

DJ's left nut 08-30-2023 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17079825)
Trying to understand the CTE addled mind of a GM that traded 3 firsts and a third for a player they let play essentially 4 games, and then trade that player away for a 4 is a fools errand.

Lynch is probably trying to find the optimal package of 5th and 6th rounders to trade Bosa for.

I will never EVER understand the ball-washing of John Lynch.

He's an AWFUL general manager. He had a team that was hot spiced ass one year and so he drafted a generationally great player at 1.2 - the guy who was universally considered the best player in the draft.

This is the same doofus that took Solomon Thomas when he needed a QB. Who gave big money to Grapes after giving up a 2nd for him. Who obviously torched the Lance capital. McGlinchey at 9 overall was awful. Kinlaw has been a bust. Foster was out of the league within a couple years. Dante Pettis and Aaron banks in the 2nd?

How long can he coast on Kittle and Warner? Those picks were a half decade ago and he's been awful since.

Woogieman 08-30-2023 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17079771)
Yup - the 'buffer' effect of having an agent is a big deal that these guys seem to always overlook.

The buffer is worth 70% of the overall fee. No player would want to hear the back-and-forth performance breakdown...impossible not to take the critique very personally.

ghak99 08-30-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 17079841)
But the guaranteed contract issue was not about belief in the player, that was about front office people belief in themselves not to do something that is not worth the risk to the team and that the player does not really need.

Have you suffered from some kind of health issue lately?

tredadda 08-30-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17079832)
Chris wants to be paid the same as the guy who stacked 5 straight double-digit sack seasons, NFL rookie of the year, 3X NFLDPOTY awards, 8 straight pro bowls, 7 straight 1st team All Pro's, 5.5 playoff sacks in the last 6 playoff games (2 years) as well as literally coming away with the sack that won them the SB.

The resumes don't line ups it's not even close. Chris has no claim to get anywhere near Aaron Donald money.

Exactly. Jones is good, but he is currently not on a HOF track. Donald is considered by most to be one of the greatest ever at his position. Jones has earned and deserves #2 DT money, but that should be closer to Williams than Donald.

ptlyon 08-30-2023 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 17079849)
Have you suffered from some kind of health issue lately?

After reading today and last night, a better question is if his parents have any kids that lived

O.city 08-30-2023 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17079842)
I will never EVER understand the ball-washing of John Lynch.

He's an AWFUL general manager. He had a team that was hot spiced ass one year and so he drafted a generationally great player at 1.2 - the guy who was universally considered the best player in the draft.

This is the same doofus that took Solomon Thomas when he needed a QB. Who gave big money to Grapes after giving up a 2nd for him. Who obviously torched the Lance capital. McGlinchey at 9 overall was awful. Kinlaw has been a bust. Foster was out of the league within a couple years. Dante Pettis and Aaron banks in the 2nd?

How long can he coast on Kittle and Warner? Those picks were a half decade ago and he's been awful since.

They just keep winning.

Once Brock purdy turns back into Brock purdy it’ll work itself out

Mecca 08-30-2023 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17079842)
I will never EVER understand the ball-washing of John Lynch.

He's an AWFUL general manager. He had a team that was hot spiced ass one year and so he drafted a generationally great player at 1.2 - the guy who was universally considered the best player in the draft.

This is the same doofus that took Solomon Thomas when he needed a QB. Who gave big money to Grapes after giving up a 2nd for him. Who obviously torched the Lance capital. McGlinchey at 9 overall was awful. Kinlaw has been a bust. Foster was out of the league within a couple years. Dante Pettis and Aaron banks in the 2nd?

How long can he coast on Kittle and Warner? Those picks were a half decade ago and he's been awful since.

He's not a good GM, he's basically been saved by spending FA money and hitting on enough picks to balance it out.

Brock Purdy makes it where Trey Lance didn't get him fired...Samuel and Aiyuk help, pulling the McCaffrey deal and also being in a bad conference.

DRM08 08-30-2023 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17079818)
Speaking of...what the hell is going on in SF? Nick Bosa is probably the only DL in the league currently that deserves an Aaron Donald contract. It's bizarre that they haven't gotten that done, especially with that team.

Damn John. You're the GM of a team that just shit away 3 draft picks and has a rookie QB contract on the books for at least 3 more years. What's the hold up?

You could make an argument for Micah Parsons, but Nick Bosa is that guy. He's incredible. Take him off that team and they suffer immensely.

I don't get it

Bosa has had a lot of injuries. Hard to blame the team for being careful on the contract negotiation.

Mecca 08-30-2023 10:42 AM

The 49ers are in a cap crunch without a QB contract, it's one of the reasons their team is good.

They had this same issue with DeForest Buckner what he wanted and what they were willing to give him were not close which is how he ended up a Colt.

poolboy 08-30-2023 10:51 AM

Chris is leveraging our DL is going be bad Thursday...it prob will be but
I would love to see somebody step up and ball out

crispystl 08-30-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17079568)
Anyone with a long memory is probably making comparisons to Neil Smith.

Neil got ****ed by his agent, too.

Remember the interview when Neil found out KC made him a better offer than Denver did and his agent never told him? He had the look of complete disgust. I bet CJ95 will get to that point.

Wut? That's crazy. I might have to reconsider my hatred for Neil.


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