Here's a list of non-con games that KU plays in 2011-12 that could be replaced by MU in the future:

Nov. 1 (Tuesday), Fort Hays State, Lawrence, Kan. (exhibition)

Nov. 8 (Tuesday), Pittsburg State, Lawrence, Kan. (exhibition)

Nov. 30 (Wednesday), Florida Atlantic, Lawrence, Kan.

Dec. 3 (Saturday), South Florida, Lawrence, Kan.

Dec. 6 (Tuesday), Long Beach State, Lawrence, Kan.

Dec. 19 (Monday), Davidson, Kansas City, Mo. (M&I Bank Kansas City Shootout at Sprint Center)

Dec. 22 (Thursday), at USC, Los Angeles, Calif.

Dec. 29 (Thursday), Howard, Lawrence, Kan.

Dec. 31 (Saturday), North Dakota, Lawrence, Kan.

The USC game is probably a part of the Big12/Pac12 deal.

Is MU willing to come to Lawrence for the non-con game? I figured it would have to be a home/away deal or in the Sprint Center. Of course, if it's going to make KU more money playing you guys at the Sprint Center than it would playing any of those schools in Lawrence, then I would be all for replacing one of those games for it. Other than that, it would have to be an M&I classic, but I don't know who schedules those.

KK should be good coming up here in a few.

I would think it would be in the Sprint Center for basketball and Arrowhead in football.

Let's face it. The only reason to turn down the game would be to send a "screw you" to Mizzou. You've already acknowledged that Mizzou has to take the boat-load of cash in the SEC, so why is there a need for the hostility?

Mizzou doesn't really care about the rivalry as much as Kansas does. Most Kansans live within an hour of Missouri. Only about a third of Missourians live within an hour of Kansas. You're our biggest rival, but we'll move on.

I would think that KU needs the rivalry more than MU, but I don't know that for certain. Mizzou's base is going to be fired up for Florida and Bama and Tenn and LSU and Kentucky and Auburn and Georgia and Arkansas... KU has to get fired up for K-State and Iowa State and Baylor and Texas Tech and BYU(?) and Cincy(?)...

What if shit really hits the fan and OU, OSU, Texas, and Tech wind up in the PAC and the B1G doesn't want to expand for at least a few years? Suddenly, KU finds itself in some garbage conference, and they don't even have Mizzou on the schedule. Is that risk really worth "teaching MU a lesson"?

I don't think in terms of teaching anyone a lesson. I'm a pragmatist when it comes to this.

You are right. KU gets fired up for Mizzou. In fact, when Mizzou came in town ranked in 2003, the #23 largest crowd in Memorial Stadium history showed up to see KU defeat them.

That is the largest crowd in history to see KU vs Mizzou in Lawrence. The 23rd largest overall.

What's your point when the discussion is a game at Arrowhead? The most watched football game in 2007 in the entire country was the border-war at Arrowhead. More people watched that game than any game in KU history. More people attended that game than have ever attended a game in Lawrence.

K-State doesn't have any rivals, just a big brother, so it makes sense that you wouldn't understand.

Kansas and Texas have a great rivalry in basketball.

Why would you not include it in your list there?

One question because this keeps popping up - KU has to get fired up for KSU/ISU/BU/etc & MU has to get up for Florida/Alabama/Tennessee/etc.....


But, do Florida/Alabama/Tennessee/LSU/Auburn/Georgia have to get fired up for MU?

hmpf, weird

Pffft. Either side would be pretty dumb to agree to another Arrowhead series. Unless either team is really good people won't show up.

Kansas considers Texas to be a rival in basketball. Texas couldn't care less about basketball.

How do you feel about Farmageddon?

Yeah, I figured "bitter rivals" like that would draw a better crowd.

I'm pretty sure you don't have to worry about those schools filling their stadiums when Mizzou or any other team comes to town.