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Raiderhater 08-30-2023 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17079600)
This.

Some of you are soft as hell. Dude is clearly a dick and is doing this to hurt the Chiefs. Ain't got shit to do w money anymore.

:spock: It has everything to do with money.

Bearcat 08-30-2023 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17079626)
:spock: It has everything to do with money.

He's clearly following this year's script, just imagine his surprise when he found out he wouldn't be starting the season. :popcorn:

O.city 08-30-2023 06:51 AM

Dudes gonna blow 12 million to prove a point.

Congrats I guess

lcarus 08-30-2023 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17079634)
Dudes gonna blow 12 million to prove a point.

Congrats I guess

Yep. At least that much. I have a weird feeling he's gonna turn down a truly great offer and end up taking a lesser deal in a year from another team just to spite KC. The mental gymnastics these guys have to go through. Sometimes these guys just WANT to feel slighted. Maybe it's what they need to keep their motivation high after accomplishing so much already. **** if I know.

O.city 08-30-2023 07:57 AM

Oh I fully expect him to end up with a rival and go full Tyreek cause the chiefs kicked him to the curb

penguinz 08-30-2023 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17079638)
Yep. At least that much. I have a weird feeling he's gonna turn down a truly great offer and end up taking a lesser deal in a year from another team just to spite KC. The mental gymnastics these guys have to go through. Sometimes these guys just WANT to feel slighted. Maybe it's what they need to keep their motivation high after accomplishing so much already. **** if I know.

Only betas need motivation.

PHOG 08-30-2023 08:01 AM

I would say it's the other way around. CJ's effectively kicking the Chiefs to the curb if that indeed happens. (ending up with a rival)

KCrockaholic 08-30-2023 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17079568)
Anyone with a long memory is probably making comparisons to Neil Smith.

Neil got ****ed by his agent, too.

Remember the interview when Neil found out KC made him a better offer than Denver did and his agent never told him? He had the look of complete disgust. I bet CJ95 will get to that point.

CJ thinks Le’Veon Bell did the right thing in his holdout. I don’t think he’s even aware of who to trust and he’s just going “all-in” on what his agent has told him to do. Regardless Chris needs to see the situation and realize that the road he’s choosing is not right. This is his call at this point and I have no sympathy for that. It’s much different than what Neil Smith had happen.

Bwana 08-30-2023 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17079664)
Oh I fully expect him to end up with a rival and go full Tyreek cause the chiefs kicked him to the curb


At this point, zero shits given. He's basically turned into turncoat Neil Smith 2.0 at this point. Up until the latest turn of events, he was one of my favorites players.



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threebag 08-30-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17079638)
Yep. At least that much. I have a weird feeling he's gonna turn down a truly great offer and end up taking a lesser deal in a year from another team just to spite KC. The mental gymnastics these guys have to go through. Sometimes these guys just WANT to feel slighted. Maybe it's what they need to keep their motivation high after accomplishing so much already. **** if I know.

Probably the Bengals, at this point **** CJ

RunKC 08-30-2023 08:13 AM

Tag and trade if he has another good year. Even if it could take you out of the first wave of FA as a worst case scenario, the draft picks would make up for it

ChiTown 08-30-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17079600)
This.

Some of you are soft as hell. Dude is clearly a dick and is doing this to hurt the Chiefs. Ain't got shit to do w money anymore.

Bro, come on. This is ALL, let me repeat, ALL about the Benjamins. This is a last contract money grab, and he's gonna get his no matter the consequences. So yeah, if it hurts the Chiefs, that's just business in his mind. It ****ing sucks, but he's not doing this for anything more than money.

Let me add, I think he's a moron at this point. Everyday that this thing goes on beyond yesterday, he's looking like a bigger fool, IMO.

DJ's left nut 08-30-2023 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17079681)
Bro, come on. This is ALL, let me repeat, ALL about the Benjamins. This is a last contract money grab, and he's gonna get his no matter the consequences. So yeah, if it hurts the Chiefs, that's just business in his mind. It ****ing sucks, but he's not doing this for anything more than money.

Let me add, I think he's a moron at this point. Everyday that this thing goes on beyond yesterday, he's looking like a bigger fool, IMO.

I think it's more pride than money at this stage.

Because if he's really going to sit out, he's not gonna earn this money back. He'll end up upside down on the balance sheet when its all said and done.

He's just weirdly pissed off for some reason. I don't get it.

tredadda 08-30-2023 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 17079384)
I dunno I just don’t think this is a great reflection on Veach /FO when you consider we’ve been through at least 3 very nasty contract disputes with Hill/OBJ/Jones - and lost them all.

Add to that we don’t seem to be able to bring in any quality free agents where it’s required (wR)


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What? KC was on the verge of signing Hill until the WR market exploded and what was going to be ~$24-$25 million a year to $30 million. That's way too steep for this team.

The Brown Jr. contract was an example of KC offering him a good contract and him rejecting it because he wanted to reset the LT market. KC let him walk and he found out very quickly that what he thought he was worth vs what the league thought was significantly different.

With Jones, KC has made him a good offer from all reports. He rejected that because he's looking at $30 million a year as a 29 year old DT. That's too much and this team can't afford to take on $30 million a year contracts for any non QB position.

KC hasn't lost any of these disputes. They just refuse to hamstring the team by paying players what they think they are worth. I would bet right now that there is no contender out there that will pay Jones $30 million a year right now.

This reminds me of the Deshaun Watson/Lamar Jackson situation. One team and GM makes a poor decision on a contract and suddenly players expect that to become the norm. Other GMs disagree and continue to make those horrid contracts the outliers, not the standard. Once a player realizes it and budges on their demands then there is progress. Lamar realized he wasn't getting what he wanted and ended up with a very good contract. Jones will end up the same way once he's willing to budge.

KSCHIEF 08-30-2023 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17079678)
Tag and trade if he has another good year. Even if it could take you out of the first wave of FA as a worst case scenario, the draft picks would make up for it

Next year our cap situation is pretty nice (I think). Somewhere in the $50 mil range assuming a MVS cut and a CJ95 $20 mil franchise tag. We would easily be able to sign someone in the 1st wave of FA while holding CJ to his tag while we look for a trade


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