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DRM08 12-10-2019 08:02 PM

Given Spygate 2.0 and Spags' proven success against Belicheat, it's looking like a pretty good hire. Of course a few weeks ago there was a lot of despair about the defense after the Titans game. Guess time will tell over the long haul. Hopefully they can get some better linebackers in the draft.

Rams Fan 12-10-2019 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14649260)
Is this a serious question?

It’s pretty obvious he was a good hire 13 games into the season. There’s no need to even talk about the past. Have you watched the Chiefs at all?

Sample size.

And POs haven’t happened yet.

staylor26 12-10-2019 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14649273)
Sample size.

And POs haven’t happened yet.

Bullshit. The improvement is very clear 13 games in. Whether it’s coaching, scheme, adjustments, communication etc. it’s been a significant improvement across the board.

SAGA45 12-10-2019 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14649262)
Of course a few weeks ago there was a lot of despair about the defense after the Titans game.

They deactivated Pennel for that game. Huge mistake. Spags appears to have learned from it

New World Order 12-10-2019 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14649273)
Sample size.

And POs haven’t happened yet.

Dude. Spags has been a huge improvement from last year.

It's silly to say otherwise.

RealSNR 12-10-2019 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 14649273)
Sample size.

And POs haven’t happened yet.

We get it. Spags was a terrible head coach, and you had to suffer through the brunt of it. Sorry to hear that.

He's not a head coach here. He's a defensive coordinator. And through his DC record outside of NY looks pretty pitiful, he's a clear ****ing upgrade over Sutton. I think coaches evolve and a lot of it depends on support, both from the rest of the coaching staff as well as the players.

Spagnuolo CAN field a great defense. He's had trouble more often than not, but he's demonstrated before that he can do it, and it really wasn't all that long ago when he did it.

In the meantime, what we have to judge him is that YES the defense in KC is unequivocally improved from last year, and the scheme/system appears to be a better fit moving forward in terms of finding the talent to play within the scheme and make it work. The LBs are FAR less of a liability this year, and the defensive line is drastically improved. I think it would have been a lot harder to keep Sutton and magically procure a starting NT, new ILBs, new safeties, and new CBs who didn't suck in his shitty 3-4 that Tony Romo could call out and predict doom upon in the goddamn AFC Championship.

PAChiefsGuy 12-10-2019 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14649275)
Bullshit. The improvement is very clear 13 games in. Whether it’s coaching, scheme, adjustments, communication etc. it’s been a significant improvement across the board.

It has definitely improved but we'll see how they do in the playoffs. If they do good rest of the season but then in the playoffs get lit up it won't mean much.

So while I am as excited as anyone here I'm cautious because we all know the history of this franchise in the postseason. Lets see how the rest of the season plays out. So far so good but I've seen this story before. Hopefully the ending is different this time.

Chiefshrink 12-10-2019 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 14649146)
I dont even think this D has peaked yet.

You are spot on my friend !!!:thumb: This defense only gets better because these players are now starting to get Spags schemes down and what he wants specifically each game. You can really see that they are truly a solidified unit out there playing as a team and for each other.

RunKC 12-14-2019 09:52 PM

What a difference a year makes

Saw these tweets randomly on twitter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is zero accountability on that side of the football. Zero. Justin Hamilton calling out Houston and it&#39;s December and no can get aligned. No accountability from Andy to Bob to the position coaches to the players. Embarrassing. <a href="https://t.co/v1w8TKrfWp">https://t.co/v1w8TKrfWp</a></p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1073592277828861953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs 2019 defensive DVOA ratings compared to last year<br><br>2018:<br> Total rank -26th<br> Pass defense -12th<br> Run defense -32nd<br> Schedule strength -14th<br> Points allowed -24th<br><br>2019:<br> Total rank -13th<br> Pass defense -6th<br> Run defense -30th<br> Schedule strength -1st<br> Points allowed -14th</p>&mdash; Kansas City Media (@KansasCityMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/KansasCityMedia/status/1204906884651798529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In regards to the 30th ranked run defense, they’ve gotten much better there as the season has progressed. 8 weeks ago they were awful. Since the Denver game they are 12th in the league in run defense.

Hammock Parties 12-14-2019 10:33 PM

102 yards per game since the Denver game

83 not counting TEN

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-14-2019 11:30 PM

Tell me more about sweet Bob, Billay...

BossChief 12-14-2019 11:31 PM

How about the games with Pennel and without him?

They need to give the guy a 2-3 year extension.

Imon Yourside 12-15-2019 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14655442)
How about the games with Pennel and without him?

They need to give the guy a 2-3 year extension.

Plus he's always been a huge Chiefs fan!

Titty Meat 12-15-2019 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14655441)
Tell me more about sweet Bob, Billay...

How bout we see how we do in the playoffs?

KC Hawks 12-15-2019 03:11 PM

I'm a Spaggot.


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