Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14749210)

Serious question not regarding the superbowl...

How long do you guys think you guys have this superbowl window open? Looking at your cap situation, KC is around $15 mill under? That’s without paying Mahomes. I asked in the Mahomes thread how much will he realistically make yearly, answer was about $40-$45 mill a year.

Do you guys feel that with him making so much will affect the way this team is built? Obviously pieces will have to go.

Side note: let’s see how many times I get called idiot for asking a simple question. Lol.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 14749238)

You have to remember that prices (& caps) go up and up and up and what seems like a crazy deal at 1st looks pretty good by a few years into the contract. I expect (barring injury of course) like a decade of deep playoff runs with mahomes.....im sure there will be some bad years and years where we lose guys and stuff...I am not expecting a brady type of dynasty where we are disappointed not winning 12 games every single year.....But I do expect a winning culture and a decade+ of having a real shot. Clearly QB is the single most important piece and we have that. Pay the man and worry about the money later...yes it will hurt at 1st but the sting will fade.

Originally Posted by A8bil (Post 14749251)

How's KC's drafting record outside of Mahomes? You have to find gems in the lower rounds when you get cap constrained.

Originally Posted by A8bil (Post 14749251)

How's KC's drafting record outside of Mahomes

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14749243)

49ers and Chiefs OLs are extremely comparable, IMO.

Solid book-end Ts w/ questionable interior line play. And the problem with both IOLs isn't that they are routinely bad, it's that they're fairly inconsistent. Both will do their jobs very well at times and look like they've never worn pads before at other times.

And just as injury could have improved the 49ers OL, replacing Wylie w/ Wiz has almost certainly improved the Chiefs OL as well.

I also think it's worth noting that the Chiefs DL is comparable to the 49ers DL in how it matches up vs. its opponents strengths. Jones/Clark are a comparable duo to Buckner/Bosa w/ Clark playing at full strength. Where the 49ers are a little ahead is that they have Armstead as the 3rd leg of their stool and a strong rotational player in Ford. Against a passing offense, that's a real asset.

But now lets take a look at the 3rd leg and rotational player(s) the Chiefs have and how they matchup against the running defense of the 49ers. Pennel/Nnadi and Suggs are the Chiefs answer at opposte DE and DT, no? Well aren't Pennel/Nnadi and Suggs just as good against the rush as Armstead/Ford are against the pass? Those guys are DAMN strong run defenders.

I just think the OL/DL matchups are far closer to a wash than anyone is acknowledging. Would I trade our 'tertiary' players for theirs over a 16 game season? Oh without question. But going against this 49ers offense, I'd be hard-pressed to find 3 complementary players that are better equipped for the task than Nnadi, Pennel and Suggs.

Originally Posted by A8bil (Post 14749264)

Yep. I would say that the 49ers DL gets pretty thin once you get past the main 4-- too many injuries this year at that position. Because I haven't watched that many KC games this year, how good are these guys at stringing out plays along the line? Other KC fans have said that the 49ers and Titans run a similar run scheme, but having looked at that a bit, I'm not sure it is true...the 49ers seem to force more East-West movement (than the Titans) before their backs cut. Henry seems to run more right off tackle with straight away blocking.

Originally Posted by A8bil (Post 14749251)

Paying Goff absolutely gutted the Rams. Goff is no Mahomes (I say that begrudgingly as a Cal alum), but the roster will get thinner. How's KC's drafting record outside of Mahomes? You have to find gems in the lower rounds when you get cap constrained.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14749270)

Tyreek Hill - 5th round
Travis Kelce - 3rd round
Kareem Hunt - 3rd round
Mecole Hardman - late 2nd round
Chris Jones - early 2nd round

Andy Reid also got DeSean Jackson in the 2nd round. Similar weapon to Tyreek, and I’m guessing everyone in the 1st round of that draft wishes they took him.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 14749257)

Ever heard of Brett Veach? And I know you're a homer but 'absolutely gutted' the rams is probably a bit of hyperbole. They had a down year but they will be in your face for YEARS to come. I mean youll have to pay garroppolo too right? So by your logic the niners are totally ****ed in a year or two? Right?

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14749273)

And trading up to draft Mahomes.

What seems like an obvious decision now was far from it at the time.

Originally Posted by A8bil (Post 14749251)

Paying Goff absolutely gutted the Rams. Goff is no Mahomes (I say that begrudgingly as a Cal alum), but the roster will get thinner.

Originally Posted by A8bil (Post 14749274)

They could be. They're right under the cap now (~$4MM I think), and they have a few key guys coming up for new contracts this year, including Armstead. They are somewhat lucky that they signed JG to a contract (~$26MM/yr) that in hindsight looks pretty cheap. Compared to the contract Mahomes will get, JG's contract may give them around $15 MM more flexibility on contracts.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14749280)

They're also paying Aaron Donald quite a clip.

And they've mortgaged their future by trading away premium draft picks for people no longer on their roster (Peters) and for someone who they have to pay large or he will no longer be on their roster (Jalen Ramsey).

They're ****ed.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 14749257)

Ever heard of Brett Veach? And I know you're a homer but 'absolutely gutted' the rams is probably a bit of hyperbole. They had a down year but they will be in your face for YEARS to come. I mean youll have to pay garroppolo too right? So by your logic the niners are totally ****ed in a year or two? Right?

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14749270)

Tyreek Hill - 5th round
Travis Kelce - 3rd round
Kareem Hunt - 3rd round
Mecole Hardman - late 2nd round
Chris Jones - early 2nd round

Andy Reid also got DeSean Jackson (Go Bears!) in the 2nd round. Similar weapon to Tyreek, and I’m guessing everyone in the 1st round of that draft wishes they took him.