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Kiimo 08-11-2024 11:03 AM

I'm very excited about Worthy.


I also wanted the Chiefs to get Brian Thomas Jr and that looks justified so far. But Worthy could be better for our offense

Hammock Parties 08-17-2024 08:52 PM

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Pasta Little Brioni 08-17-2024 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17624303)
Worthy is better. Trust me

Yup

Iowanian 08-17-2024 09:13 PM

Worthy looks like he’s going to cause problems for defenses…..if they’re taking care of that back End speed of this group, it’s going to leave Kelce wide open intermediate.

Could be a really fun season.

xztop123 08-17-2024 09:22 PM

Worthy appears to have a much better catch radius than Tyreek did when here

BigRedChief 08-17-2024 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 17635532)
Worthy looks like he’s going to cause problems for defenses…..if they’re taking care of that back End speed of this group, it’s going to leave Kelce wide open intermediate.

Could be a really fun season.

Yep. they play deep to not let Brown/Worthy get behind them, plenty of opportunities underneath for Kelce and Rice. Its going to be a fun season.

JohnnyHammersticks 08-17-2024 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17635536)
Worthy appears to have a much better catch radius than Tyreek did when here

Catches with his hands instead of trapping it, too. Not a knock against Tyreek, with some notable exceptions he turned out to be much more reliable catching the football than I ever expected him to be after watching his first couple seasons. But Worthy is more of a hands catcher and tracks the ball just as well. Tyreek had a different gear from anyone I've ever seen though, and he's obviously much stronger than Worthy.

I'm excited for the kid, I think he'll have a great career.

Bump 08-17-2024 09:55 PM

Can't wait for the regular season to start.

Worthy was a slightly risky pick, but I think we got another good one!

I'm glad they traded up a few picks to get him

this years WR class looked really good, glad we got ourselves one!

Kiimo 08-17-2024 10:46 PM

The moment he ran that 40 people started saying uh oh what if the Chiefs get him



It feels like a dream

Hammock Parties 08-17-2024 11:57 PM

Can you believe how stupid Buffalo is? LMAO

Buehler445 08-18-2024 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 17635532)
Worthy looks like he’s going to cause problems for defenses…..if they’re taking care of that back End speed of this group, it’s going to leave Kelce wide open intermediate.

Could be a really fun season.

Sure yeah. Kelce. And everyone else.

That throw to Watson when dudes went with Worthy was as wide open and easy of catch he’s had as a Chief.

Rice will feast.

RBs will have piles of space if they can beat the angle in a LB.

God help if a defense has to account for Worthy and Brown.

Mahomes is going to ****ing wreck worlds if we can keep dudes upright.

Titty Meat 08-18-2024 01:19 AM

Another home run pick by Veach. Defenses are in real trouble against us (it's not like they weren't already facing Mahomes) but a combo of Worthy/Brown is damn near uncoverable and that's before factoring in Pacheco, Kelce, and Rice. A win for defenses is what we've seen this pre season where the 1st unit drives 40+ yards and kicks a field goal

Chieftain 08-18-2024 01:36 AM

It's impressive how easily he has adjusted in the schemes of Andy's offense. Took Rice a few weeks to really get things going and feel comfortable with the routes, in his first season. This kid has been ready from the start. Only very highly intelligent football players are able to transition this smoothly from college to the pros. He has both talent and brains. The golden formula in hitting the jackpot with your WR draft picks.

His ball tracking and the way he just smoothly and effortlessly separates himself down field are elite. I am talking Tyreek level elite.
When you see your high draft prospect have an impact this early, that's exactly what you wanna see. That spells a homerun pick to me.

Tribal Warfare 08-18-2024 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17635617)
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His ball tracking and the way he just smoothly and effortlessly separates himself down field are elite. I am talking Tyreek level elite.
When you see your high draft prospect have an impact this early, that's exactly what you wanna see. That spells a homerun pick to me.


Worthy, needs to keep his footing so he can RATC and not tumble to the ground

Pasta Little Brioni 08-18-2024 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17635594)
Can you believe how stupid Buffalo is? LMAO

Yes...Yes I can.

mr. tegu 08-18-2024 06:45 AM

*****The Xavier Worthy Thread*****
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17635594)
Can you believe how stupid Buffalo is? LMAO


Just checked Coleman stats. 2 receptions for 20 yards on 6 targets. They drafted a slow possession receiver that can’t separate to play with a somewhat inaccurate QB instead of a game breaker with elite speed to play with their huge armed QB. I’m sure it’ll be great for them though.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-18-2024 07:00 AM

Meanwhile Coleman looks absolutely awful in Bills camp/games

VAChief 08-18-2024 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17635594)
Can you believe how stupid Buffalo is? LMAO

It's one thing to pass on him, it's another to actually trade back with the team who haunts your dreams so they can grab him (filling one of their biggest needs).

smithandrew051 08-18-2024 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17635684)
Meanwhile Coleman looks absolutely awful in Bills camp/games

He got open and dropped a pass because he turtled up when he was about to get hit.

Bad throw, but Bills fans are coping online about how it was smart to not take the hit.

smithandrew051 08-18-2024 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17635613)
Another home run pick by Veach. Defenses are in real trouble against us (it's not like they weren't already facing Mahomes) but a combo of Worthy/Brown is damn near uncoverable and that's before factoring in Pacheco, Kelce, and Rice. A win for defenses is what we've seen this pre season where the 1st unit drives 40+ yards and kicks a field goal

With how Taylor came on in the postseason, Kingsley may well give Mahomes the best OL he’s had.

We’ve either had so-so tackles or interior each season with Mahomes (except maybe his first season as a starter).

Scary thought that Mahomes (fully in his prime) may well have the best total set of weapons AND OL of his career with a defense that should at least be pretty good.

Bob Dole 08-18-2024 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17635536)
Worthy appears to have a much better catch radius than Tyreek did when here

I like how everyone forgets Tyreek didn't come to KC as a WR.

PatMahomesIsGod 08-18-2024 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17635679)
Just checked Coleman stats. 2 receptions for 20 yards on 6 targets. They drafted a slow possession receiver that can’t separate to play with a somewhat inaccurate QB instead of a game breaker with elite speed to play with their huge armed QB. I’m sure it’ll be great for them though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17635684)
Meanwhile Coleman looks absolutely awful in Bills camp/games

Maybe BWille will even stop trolling that the Bills made a good decision

Pasta Little Brioni 08-18-2024 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17635780)
Maybe BWille will even stop trolling that the Bills made a good decision

Poker boy should stick to trashing ku hoops

Bowser 08-18-2024 09:25 AM

Trent McDuffie over Kaiir Elam

Xavier Worthy over Keon Coleman


https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.cd931768...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

Pasta Little Brioni 08-18-2024 09:33 AM

Bean is Paton level bad

RunKC 08-18-2024 09:38 AM

Sure looks like Andy found his new Desean Jackson

Kiimo 08-18-2024 09:47 AM

I think Keon Coleman will be okay at catching contested catches


Which is good because it appears a lot of his catches will be contested



Meanwhile Xavier Worthy and Mahomes will get downgraded by PFF for their 60 yard touchdowns being "too wide open"

RunKC 08-18-2024 10:26 AM

Worthy pulled three defenders with him after burning them deep on time. That’s why Watson was so damn open in the middle of the field LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gravity.<br><br>Kansas City Chiefs rookie WR Xavier Worthy commands the attention of three defenders, leaving the middle area of the field wide open. <a href="https://t.co/ujhdf0pr64">pic.twitter.com/ujhdf0pr64</a></p>&mdash; Jacob Gibbs (@jagibbs_23) <a href="https://twitter.com/jagibbs_23/status/1825197237703516363?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bowser 08-18-2024 10:28 AM

Kelce and Rashee are going to feast this year

Kiimo 08-18-2024 10:40 AM

Kelce and Rice for sure

but also what happens when you have Worthy AND Brown going deep you can't put three guys on both of them

Buehler445 08-18-2024 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17635856)
Worthy pulled three defenders with him after burning them deep on time. That’s why Watson was so damn open in the middle of the field LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gravity.<br><br>Kansas City Chiefs rookie WR Xavier Worthy commands the attention of three defenders, leaving the middle area of the field wide open. <a href="https://t.co/ujhdf0pr64">pic.twitter.com/ujhdf0pr64</a></p>&mdash; Jacob Gibbs (@jagibbs_23) <a href="https://twitter.com/jagibbs_23/status/1825197237703516363?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

My eyes bugged out when I saw those dudes clear out. I commented in DC's thread that that was as wide open as Watson has been as a Chief.

TEX 08-18-2024 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17635594)
Can you believe how stupid Buffalo is? LMAO

Yep. Bean rivals Paton.

dlphg9 08-18-2024 11:31 AM

I think we're gonna be the first team with 3 1000 yd receivers, 1000 yd rusher, and 5000 yd passer.

smithandrew051 08-18-2024 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17635925)
I think we're gonna be the first team with 3 1000 yd receivers, 1000 yd rusher, and 5000 yd passer.

We were so close to having a 1,000 RB, TE, and WR for the first time since Alex Smith’s last year and yet somehow all 3 fell just short.

Bowser 08-18-2024 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17635870)
Kelce and Rice for sure

but also what happens when you have Worthy AND Brown going deep you can't put three guys on both of them

I, for one, can't wait to find out.

Delano 08-18-2024 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17635873)
My eyes bugged out when I saw those dudes clear out. I commented in DC's thread that that was as wide open as Watson has been as a Chief.

Somehow he wasn’t even the most open guy that play. Might want to cover the best TE in the game.

Hammock Parties 08-18-2024 01:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWorthy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@XavierWorthy</a> is going to open this offense up. You better put a &quot;cloud&quot; over the tol of everywhere he goes. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/IwcdVKkD7w">pic.twitter.com/IwcdVKkD7w</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1825207590588150245?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 08-18-2024 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17635873)
My eyes bugged out when I saw those dudes clear out. I commented in DC's thread that that was as wide open as Watson has been as a Chief.

Watson is going to EAT this year. There's going to be so much open space for guys like him to work. This is how you had scrubs like D-Rob getting 40+ catches with Tyreek.

MahomesMagic 08-18-2024 01:38 PM

Teams are not going to want to get beat deep by Hollywood and Worthy so I expect safeties to be deep every play and the middle/intermediate areas of the field will be conceded to KC.


It's going to be a Kelce/Rice/Pacheco heavy offense.

Hayneplane 08-18-2024 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17635873)
My eyes bugged out when I saw those dudes clear out. I commented in DC's thread that that was as wide open as Watson has been as a Chief.

Kelce was also wide open 10 yards further up the field and would probably be thrown to if it was a regular season game rather than feeding Watson to get him a pass.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-18-2024 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17635942)
I, for one, can't wait to find out.

But but but Mo Pix to a returning Dan Patrick is supposedly got them pumped out in Pile High

Kiimo 08-19-2024 02:04 PM

Seth Keysor had very good things to say about Worthy today


Spoiler!

BossChief 08-19-2024 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17635808)
Trent McDuffie over Kaiir Elam

Xavier Worthy over Keon Coleman


https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.cd931768...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

Seriously.

Straight up stealing Mahomes, Worthy and McDuffie from them will never get old.

I wonder who the next prospect we will add to that list is.

ThrobProng 08-19-2024 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17637583)
Seriously.

Straight up stealing Mahomes, Worthy and McDuffie from them will never get old.

I wonder who the next prospect we will add to that list is.

Araiza

BossChief 08-19-2024 02:11 PM

Damn. I completely forgot about Araiza and he has “HOF” type talent for his position.

Who else am I missing?

The best part is THEY KNOW IT.

They would trade Diggs anywhere but KC…ROFL

Kiimo 08-19-2024 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17637588)
Araiza


oh my god that's right hahahaha



sammy watkins?

ThrobProng 08-19-2024 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17637594)
oh my god that's right hahahaha



sammy watkins?

That's a close one, but I'm not sure we win that first SB without him.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2024 02:18 PM

Quote:

Another thing that makes me optimistic about Worthy’s intelligence and ability to digest Reid’s playbook early is that their usage of him didn’t appear limited at all. They had Worthy line up off the tackle, in the slot, on the boundary, on and off the line, as part of trips, in stacked alignments, and both with and without motion. He played basically everywhere you could think of and ran a wide variety of routes. That set him apart even from Rashee Rice as a rookie, as Rice’s role was generally limited to a certain set of the route tree. Worthy ran more variety of intermediate and deep routes in one preseason game than Rice did through 8 weeks last year.
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staylor26 08-19-2024 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17637608)

Who wrote that?

mr. tegu 08-19-2024 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17637741)
Who wrote that?


Keysor, from post #1562.

RealSNR 08-19-2024 04:01 PM

And keep in mind, the guy missed basically all of the mini-camp and install practices prior to training camp.

Bl00dyBizkitz 08-19-2024 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17637792)
And keep in mind, the guy missed basically all of the mini-camp and install practices prior to training camp.

I thought it was promising that while injured, he shadowed Nagy and constantly asked questions. Just willingness to learn and do what he can to be better, even if he physically can't be out there.

poolboy 08-19-2024 05:02 PM

why do we need Keysor to tell us what we already know?
Dumbass, like Florio?

Buehler445 08-19-2024 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17637858)
why do we need Keysor to tell us what we already know?
Dumbass, like Florio?

Because he doesn’t **** his sister like Florio?

Kiimo 08-19-2024 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17637858)
why do we need Keysor to tell us what we already know?
Dumbass, like Florio?

I spoilered it, just so you don't have to read it.


And if you do read it, but knew everything in it already, please let me know how to sign up for your blog you surely write.

BWillie 08-19-2024 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17635684)
Meanwhile Coleman looks absolutely awful in Bills camp/games

We've played zero real games. There is no reason to assume one is much better than the other at this point except that Worthy fits our offensive scheme way better.

Pitt Gorilla 08-19-2024 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17638376)
We've played zero real games. There is no reason to assume one is much better than the other at this point except that Worthy fits our offensive scheme way better.

Well, that, and Coleman is slow.

BWillie 08-19-2024 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17638383)
Well, that, and Coleman is slow.

They said that about Puka Nacua as well....and he ran the fastest speed in the gauntlet drill of 20.06 mph. Keon Coleman reached 20.36 mph.

RealSNR 08-19-2024 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17638404)
They said that about Puka Nacua as well....and he ran the fastest speed in the gauntlet drill of 20.06 mph. Keon Coleman reached 20.36 mph.

Oh shut the **** up.

Keon Coleman looks like Justyn Ross, except he never comes down with those tough catches.

If you asked me who I'd rather have straight up, I think I actually would take Ross.

BWillie 08-19-2024 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17638429)
Oh shut the **** up.

Keon Coleman looks like Justyn Ross, except he never comes down with those tough catches.

If you asked me who I'd rather have straight up, I think I actually would take Ross.

I would too solely because of our offense. But we are all placing waaay too much stock in fake games if we are deciding with certainty whos better right now.

You are absolutely crazy if you would take Ross over Coleman right now, though. Ross sucks. He couldn't even produce anything being on one of the worst WR corps in all of the league. His ceiling is a WR4 maybe.

Kiimo 08-19-2024 09:51 PM

BWillie who are you trying to win over? He looks like a possession receiver who can't create separation.

Also the Bills are insanely injured already



https://i.imgur.com/uQmQv3k.png

BWillie 08-19-2024 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17638444)
BWillie who are you trying to win over? He looks like a possession receiver who can't create separation.

Also the Bills are insanely injured already



https://i.imgur.com/uQmQv3k.png

People thought Kadarius Toney was the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ at this time last year after fake games. They thought our WR corp would be one of the best in the league. Some guys perform in primetime. We will see. I just don't see how people totally just write guys off because of training camp.

Kiimo 08-19-2024 10:05 PM

Toney didn't do 1/5 what Worthy has done in camp though

BWillie 08-19-2024 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17638478)
Toney didn't do 1/5 what Worthy has done in camp though

I think Worthy is good and is showing good signs for sure.

JohnnyHammersticks 08-19-2024 10:58 PM

Bills: "Let's pick up some ex-Chiefs to bring a winning mentality"

Also Bills: "Aaaand they're both injured"

DaFace 08-19-2024 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17638455)
People thought Kadarius Toney was the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ at this time last year after fake games. They thought our WR corp would be one of the best in the league. Some guys perform in primetime. We will see. I just don't see how people totally just write guys off because of training camp.

Toney didn't play last preseason. He was hurt.

MahomesMagic 08-20-2024 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17638404)
They said that about Puka Nacua as well....and he ran the fastest speed in the gauntlet drill of 20.06 mph. Keon Coleman reached 20.36 mph.

Nakua ran perfect, crisp routes.

Coleman looks clumsy as hell right now.


Coleman has some potential but he's a project.

MVChiefFan 08-20-2024 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17638540)
Toney didn't play last preseason. He was hurt.

ROFL It just doesn’t even matter with him. I swear he wakes up every morning, rubs his hands together, and says “what’s the most inane bullshit I can say on Chiefsplanet, today?”

WhawhaWhat 08-20-2024 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17638455)
People thought Kadarius Toney was the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ at this time last year after fake games. They thought our WR corp would be one of the best in the league. Some guys perform in primetime. We will see. I just don't see how people totally just write guys off because of training camp.

Andy Reid couldn't stop talking about Toney being a #1 WR last year. Who know if he actually believed that but it's definitely why the fans believed that.

Warpaint69 08-20-2024 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17638583)
Andy Reid couldn't stop talking about Toney being a #1 WR last year. Who know if he actually believed that but it's definitely why the fans believed that.

I think Toney is a perfect example of someone with a ton of athletic ability that simply doesn't love the game. Think he likes the paycheck, but isn't invested to put in the work on his craft.

Kiimo 08-20-2024 07:30 AM

He also jukes himself out of his own bones whereas Worthy isn't injury prone at all

BWillie 08-20-2024 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17638604)
I think Toney is a perfect example of someone with a ton of athletic ability that simply doesn't love the game. Think he likes the paycheck, but isn't invested to put in the work on his craft.

He's not even as athletic as Justin Watson. He's sucked his entire pro career. There is no reason to ever think he will be good.

Dunerdr 08-20-2024 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17638657)
He's not even as athletic as Justin Watson. He's sucked his entire pro career. There is no reason to ever think he will be good.

Toney is not as athletic as Justin Watson? Come on I know your a troll but that one had to be hard to type.

staylor26 08-20-2024 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17638657)
He's not even as athletic as Justin Watson. He's sucked his entire pro career. There is no reason to ever think he will be good.

I don't think you know what the word "athletic" means.

BWillie 08-20-2024 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17638695)
I don't think you know what the word "athletic" means.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17638692)
Toney is not as athletic as Justin Watson? Come on I know your a troll but that one had to be hard to type.

Yes as far as football is concerned.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0MHGHfX...g&name=900x900

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ThrobProng 08-20-2024 08:42 AM

All the athleticism in the world means precisely dick if the ball isn't caught.

DJ's left nut 08-20-2024 08:43 AM

Sweet!!

We have FINALLY put a nail in the coffin of RAS.

Now that BWillie is citing it, I presume we can all put to rest the idea that it has any evidentiary value whatsoever?

RAS is the single dumbest metric to ever exist.

"Oh sure, Toney has a better 40, 20, broad, shuttle and cone....but he's less athletic because he's shorter!!!

RAS: Always has been, always will be, COMPLETELY reeruned. And Bwillie's adoption of same should pretty much bury any arguments to the contrary.

RunKC 08-20-2024 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17638604)
I think Toney is a perfect example of someone with a ton of athletic ability that simply doesn't love the game. Think he likes the paycheck, but isn't invested to put in the work on his craft.

He’s lazy and doesn’t have proper technique. His ego is too big.

Feels like there’s levels to these guys.

Worthy seems like a guy with gifted speed and tracking ability and worked hard to become a solid route runner. Same thing as DeSean Jackson.

Then you have guys in the middle like Hardman who works hard and has gifted speed, but isn’t a complete player who can track the ball well or sell routes.

Then there’s guys like Toney and Claypool who had excellent combine numbers but are lazy as hell and no work ethic to get in the mid level Hardman area and will be out of the league bc of it.

BWillie 08-20-2024 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17638704)
All the athleticism in the world means precisely dick if the ball isn't caught.

If Tony never dropped a ball again he would still suck. But remember that time he adjusted his gloves before catching the football?!

Worthy appears to be able to track footballs. Which is a huge skill. He seems to like the game. Luckily he appears nothing like Toney who just tricks everyone into thinking he's this amazing football player because he does these really stupid unnecessary juke moves.

DJ's left nut 08-20-2024 08:57 AM

Yeah - its rare to see someone so insanely gifted that he can not actually enjoy playing football and still be good at it at the highest level.

Someone like Ricky Williams comes immediately to mind. Honestly, I don't think Calvin Johnson really liked playing football.

But most of the time you get Kadarius Toney or Josh Rosen. If a dude enjoys being good at football more than he enjoys playing football, he's gonna eventually find a level where the guys are as talented as he is but will actually put the work in as well. And not because they have to (in which case you get the bare minimum) but because they genuinely enjoy it.

Toney's going to have to get humbled and it's starting to seem more and more likely that he simply lacks the self-awareness for that sort of thing to happen.


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