Hate to rain on your parade with facts but i went back and watched the All 22 on offense, every pass snap including penalties.

On 35 pass sets Brown had:
No help on 24 snaps
TE help on 1 snap
TE chip on 3 snaps
RB help on 3 snaps
RB chip on 4 snaps

That's no help on 24 snaps and help on 11 snaps. He wasn't an issue at any point in the game. On one of the pressures that i'm sure he was credited with, he was pushing the DE past the QB and Burrow failed to step up. On another, he had control but Burrow didn't have room to step up.

The offense looked like shit because Burrow played like shit. OBj was fine and he was def better than Donovan Smith.

Those weapons don't matter when your QB is playing like Johnny Football.

If they are equal to Brown Jr. and Wylie (very low bar) then it's a push for us. I fully expect them to hurdle that 4 inch bar though, so KC will end up ahead. Plus if Smith is the equal of Brown Jr. then they can walk away after this year. Unfortunately you all are stuck with Brown Jr for a few more years.

I do because i just watched flamthrowers being aimed at your WRs after a bad game when they were touted highly just a couple minutes before. I'm just thinking with as much praise as i saw for your Ts, it was gonna take a little longer for them.

I don't think it's going to turn out how you had hoped it would turn out.

Taylor is very expensive at $20M per year. He damn well better perform much better than Wylie.

What? Having two tackles that are the equal to or better than two of the worst starting tackles last year? No one thinks we signed Anthony Munoz on the left side. We just know that Smith can't be worse than Brown Jr was.

Have they got enough cheddar to smother 75

Taylor should settle in just fine. He's been trending up in passpro for a while. It's just DS that i would be worried about.

No, i don't think it's going to turn into the OBj shit show that you may be expecting. And i think there's a definite possibilty that you're not going to be pleased with Smith.

He could be solid. He has the track record, i just don't see him being better than OBj and i think the potential is there for him to not be good.

You are a dog shit evaluator of football JFC he was an abomination . Homer ****...

I think I'll make you the new "reek" aka "knowmo"

Oh my. That one stung.

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Brown Jr was absolutely terrible according to any legit source

Your ass is talking again, kid.

Just finished the re watch...holy **** Brown was awful

Joey Bridesmaid gave up due to RELENTLESS pressure

And that's fine. KC just won a SB last year with Brown Jr caliber LT play. He's on a one year prove it deal. The only way I would be disappointed is if he were somehow worse than Brown Jr., but that would be hard to do.

Signs $275 million contract

Throws for 82 yards and gets benched in the first game of the year against a division rival.

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Thanks to OBJ!

Bengals just cut La'el Collins.

Why the **** are you here? You know absolutely nothing. Your team just got clowned, and you get to deal with the OBJ shit show....go away.

Does Burrow get all his cigars from the playoff prowess stash of Josh Allen

Just occured to me that I'm really looking forward to the first episode of Quarterback Season 2.

"Mike Brown is cheap"

https://www.spotrac.com/news/breakin...xtension-2013/

Breaking Down Joe Burrow's $275M Extension

Joe Burrow (hilariously) interrupted the NFL Kickoff Opener Thursday night with news of his brand new 5 year, $275,000,000 extension with the Bengals. Burrow scores a $40M pay raise this year, with a whopping $146.5M fully guaranteed at signing ($111M of new guarantee).

THE AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE
Burrow didn’t just surpass Justin Herbert’s $52.5M per year - he blew by it. His $55M per year represents 24.4% of the current NFL Salary Cap ($224.8M), the highest percentage of cap in NFL history.

Three years ago, Patrick Mahomes’ $45M per year was the top number. Mahomes now ranks 8th on that list, with 4 players north of $50M per year (and that includes Aaron Rodgers taking himself OUT of that group).

THE CAP FLOW
The Bengals utilized a SIX BONUS structure with this extension: A $40M signing bonus, a $55M 2nd year option bonus, 3 consecutive $10M option bonus, and a final $5M option bonus in the 2028 season.

For the most part, this keeps the upfront cap hits relatively tenable, with a slight need for salary conversion coming in 2025/2026, and an excessive figure in the final season.

Annual Cap Allocations
2023: $19.5M
2024: $29.7M
2025: $46.25M
2026: $48.25M
2027: $52.25M
2028: $53.5M
2029: $68.5M
2030: $9M (dead)

CONCLUDING THOUGHTS
Many, ourselves included, wondered if Joe Burrow would take the Peyton Manning approach (max out) or the Tom Brady approach with this rookie extension. Quite obviously he chose the former here.

The Bengals haven’t put together a contract like this in the history of their franchise, historically not fully guaranteeing any future salary - often not even for injury purposes. They haven’t been “cheap” in terms of overall payouts, but they’ve been frugal when it comes to the stability of their contracts.

There’s not a soul who can claim that about this Joe Burrow extension. It’s rock solid through 2027, with a bit of an out prior to the 2028 season, and a definitive one before 2029. Cincinnati will be sticking more than $100M into escrow with this deal (fully guaranteed cash not paid out in 2023), proving they’re on board for whatever it takes to keep this elite QB1 in town for as long as possible.

Mahomes really sold himself short. These other teams are finding ways to pay their QB's huge money and the cap hits aren't too bad.

3-year cash flow for Mahomes after signing his new deal: $66 million (2020-2022)
3-year cash flow for Josh Allen after signing his new deal: $95 million (2021-2023)
3-year cash flow for Hurts after signing his new deal: $106 million (2023-2025)
3-year cash flow for Herbert after signing his new deal: $134 million (2023-2025)
3-year cash flow for Burrow after signing his new deal: $146 million (2023-2025)

Tell me which QB who matters is carried more by his team.

Tua has it easy with those WR, but that D is ass.

Hurts? Fair, they're loaded. Jury is out on him individually and I'm not as sure on him individually as most who've crowned him already.

This is a compliment to the team btw, but idiot homers like you are too blinded by reality with Burrow's junk in your eye. Being real, give Mahomes the D Burrow has had, Mahomes has 5 rings.

Brown is average at best and gets abused by speed rushers. And Burrow is no Mahomes when it comes to avoiding the rush. It's guaranteed that Brown will give up way more sacks than he did in KC. Not to mention, Burrow isn't close to Mahomes at extending plays and making accurate throws on the run. When he's not getting sacked, he'll be sailing the ball into the seats.

Donovan Smith is a proven commodity. He had a down year last year due to injury, but he's healthy now. No reason to think he won't be solid. He's more athletic and definitely a better pass protector than Brown when healthy.

We used to tell ourselves the same sort of things about Brown to make ourselves feel better, but you'll eventually come to hate him as we did.

I'm not blind and i'm not expecting an all pro. If he falls on his face, i'll be first in here dumping shit on his head.

The difference between last Sunday and what Jonah did over there the last couple years is noticible. It can't be understated just how bad Burrow played and it wasn't in any way Brown's fault, in that game.

Carried by his team is a misnomer. Burrow has been the beneficiary of better overall team play. I don't think there's ever been a time where i've disputed this.

He's also been handicapped by a very bad offensive line in 2 straight playoff seasons.

Of course he has been carried. Find me another QB with 0 fourth quarter TD drives with a 5-2 record. Bet you can’t.

One of these guys is post season career of Cousins and one is Burrow. Only reason you can really discern them is the defense PPG.

Y/G
262
261

Completion %
66.5
67.3

Y/A
6.8
7.3

Rating
93.8
93.8

TD/game
1.25
1.3

PPG
20
23

Defense/PPG
28
19

Burrow is just a slightly sexier version of Joe Flacco with no rings.

rfaulk defending the Bengals in two separate threads against Chiefs and Bills fans...

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Burrow has a lot more money than Flacco. Flacco has a sexier surname and better jewelry. They both look good in tight pants, so I’m not sure who is sexier. It’s a coin toss for me.

Burrow is Alex Smith if he hadn't been ruined by the 49ers.

Burrow is prime Matt Ryan dressed as a bundle of sticks for Halloween

Flaccid had a unibrow and a look of caveman about him. The birds must have taken him to Kohls

In hindsight it looks like a massive mistake by the Bengals for not moving up for Anton Harrison. Orlando Brown Jr is pretty damn bad and Jonah Williams just sucks.

They are in major trouble.

Just now got around to looking at Burrow’s contract details. I’m old enough to member when he was going to take a Mahomes like contract.

And the fans are spinning it that it’s a good thing it’s front loaded. Which it’s not. I mean could they have pushed more down the road. Yes. But that thing is not team friendly in the slightest. And that’s the reality of these new QB contacts on shorter deals.

Please correct me if I’m wrong

Burrow is Chad Pennington in a floral suit.

It's not team friendly in the traditional sense, due to the large overall numbers but with the salary cap being what it is and what it's going to be, it's cap friendly.

He doesn't hit 50M+ until 2027 and by then salary cap is projected to be around 300M. That will drop his percentage to around 18%.

EDIT: This article says 306M in 2026.
https://www.journal-news.com/news/ho...llowing%20year.

Its gonna be interesting to see how they dance around it. Herbert’s contract was actually very team friendly in the very beginning but the chargers are going to have an absurdly bad cap situation next 2 years. So they had no choice. Bengals have some really hard decisions coming up and some mega contracts but they actually still have a good amount of guys locked in. I assume guys like tee and reader are gonna be hard to sign. They’ll take a few pointed hits but have some time before the bomb hits

wtf?

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Reader, Boyd, Awuzie and Higgins all come up next year, that are currently starters.

NOPE

nothing patrick has ever worn is gayer than these

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What's the deal with NFL QBs making a conscious effort to look like they take it in the shitter?

If you walked in the door in either of those, "m'lady" might just actually try and have sex with you.

That LV fit cost almost 4K.... so there is that.

4K to look like a rump ranger. Bizarre.

i bung my lady last night after taking off gym clothes

joe dresses like that because he's a try hard maggot

The only Burrow fit i ever groaned at was that abomination he wore to the SB. Literally, the second i saw that i thought to myself, "****, it's over now".

Being a leader in fashion is not cheap... I don't get it; however, my wife does and gets compliments all the time for her fashion sense.

Right...lady *wink, wink*

I admittedly have little fashion sense because I have no use for it, but the outfits above seem so...stupid. Burrow's both look like they were stolen from Liberace's closet, and Mahomes' looks like a giant version of a toddler's outfit from Walmart.

I guess it's a youth thing.

literal posters on this forum have met my GF you idiot

Burrow's floral suit sells for under $100... that tidbit made me chuckle.

Most of the trendy fashion is a hard pass for me as well, but I am boring regarding clothes and would rather spend that money on racing parts for my motorcycle!

Question #1: What about figurative posters?

Fact #1: Just because they've met them, doesn't mean you've had sex.
Question #2: Have they watched you have sex?

Yes, I'm in the habit of keeping girls around and NOT banging them.

Do they even have pussy in Ohio? Or is everyone gay like Joe Burrow?

Question #1: Does this include relatives?

To answer your first question: A populace assumes that procreation has been accomplished. Procreation requires both the male and female genitalia. Or at least the female genitalia and male fertilizer.

To answer your second question: Are you in the market for a male lover since you're having so much trouble with 'the one'?

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LMAO

Wardrobe provided by Goodwill

I actually like that Happy Holla Days ugly Christmas sweater

You are a ****ing moron. Almost three years going strong.

Burrow & Mahomes are both goofy bastards.

Wait. You've had a male lover for 3 years, or what? That was a pretty general response.

What is it with your fascination with homosexuals?

I think it's time you come clean and go suck a few dicks. I'm sure there are plenty of gay bars in Cinci

I'm just trying to get his love life straightened out for him.

I literally just told your ringless, dickless ass I have a GF.

We've been trying to do that for 20 years.

SHUT UP, WE'RE PRACTICALLY ENGAGED

Of course the chick chimes in during the relationship talk. :D

It's the, I just rolled out of bed & wearing a quilt, look

Mahomes is stylish in his goofiness.

Burrow is a ****ing rural Ohio goober cosplaying badly as Mahomes.

There’s nothing wrong with that outfit.

The socks, shoes and hoodie are legit.

Look at them socks.

That foo' is down.

Rfaulk, Clay stop it. You’re both pretty.