Appreciate it. I've been lurking for a long time...guess I'm a man of few words.

The constant complaining though by some is enough to make you post I guess.


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Who said they were thrilled?

Yes without a doubt it was fun and amazing to watch at times. But the last two years was not as fun as the opposing team took it away with cover 2 and we've really not had anyone else besides Kelce and Hill to go to underneath.

My hope is that this opens up the ability to get another couple high quality (not great) WRs before the draft, draft a new stud, and make our offense less predictable.

All while having the coin to address some major issues on the D.


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Almost 24 hrs later and still sad this happened. Can't remember the last time something player related effected me this much, probably when DT died.

But for those that need some levity like I do this was awesome from Khalen who btw is a damn good athlete. I think many people who know said he would be the PG of the Chiefs bb team they were all discussing last week.

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Did you seriously just compare trading Tyreek Hill for 5 picks to Derrick Thomas dying?

JFC. Some of you have lost any and all sense of perspective.

Absolutely stings but the Chiefs did the right thing.

Amazing that they turned a potentially bad 6th round draft pick six years ago into 5 draft picks ( including a #1) 6-7 years later. Thank you Tyreek.

he didnt compare it..he compared his feelings. .

not all of us look at football as wanna be GMs some of us like to watch our favorite players. . and dont worry or pretend to care about things we know nothing about. .

is everyone on this board dumb?

no wonder every player wants to leave. . dumb ass fan base

The team will almost certainly be worse off over the next two seasons, but elite talent can be found in these spots. A combination of skill similar to these three types of guys would lessen the sting, for sure.

I will wait to see what Veach can do with the picks. He's shown that he can draft guys who play good football. If we can nail a few of these extra picks with more Humphreys, Trey Smiths, L'j Sneeds, and Nick Boltons, we may look back in 10 years and not hate this move so much.

Oh nosie wosie! Poooooor DT Vietnam. He can't watch his favorite plawwwwer anymoooor. His fweeeelings are hurt and that's why he continues to act out on a message board like a petulant child seeking attention.

Such a loser. I'm so sorry your life has so little that's fulfilling that TRADING a player has this much impact on your day-to-day life.

I am sure this has been posted, but WOW!

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I wasn't especially excited about the draft. Now I am stoked.

Reminds me of the Jared Allen trade bc I was way younger and more emotional about that kinda stuff back then.

But then I remembered how awesome our return was and how great our return will be when we get new young cheap players to help us get to a SB.

As much as I like Tyreek this was the right decision.

Veach didn't do this trade all on his own. I'm sure Andy and maybe "another person" had a say in it. Hill was fun to watch, but not $25-30M worth of fun. Some can point to a few plays and say that's how we won a SB, but I can point to others like Dirty Dan's INT, Kelce's clutch catch, or a timely sack.

Bottom line, Hill priced himself out of KC. Not Clark, not Veach, Hill. When it comes down to getting his gold coat, it'll be for what he did here, not in Miami. I wish him well, but he doesn't make my top 20 Greatest Chiefs Ever list.

X Howard has deleted all his IG Dolphins stuff. Maybe we’re trading for him?

He should. How many on that list got ring that you think are better than Hill?

Sometime I just miss the way he ran by everyone

Why? How man Chiefs have rings that have been better than Hill?

The difference in lifestyle between being the #1 paid WR and the #5 paid WR (what KC was offering) is jack and shit. Mahomes and Kelce both understand this.

Hill chose money and bragging rights over KC.

I hope he never sees a playoff game the rest of his career.



Dumb dumb dumb.

The NFL doesn’t care about him, why should he care about the NFL?

The only reason why Chiefs helped him out with his case was because he was a cash cow for the organization. He brought in the views and ticket sales. There’s not much loyalty in the sports like there once was.

The trade was dumb, dumb, dumb. The most dynamic player in the NFL was worth being paid #1 money.

His jackoff of an agent clearly got in his ear. It's pretty obvious the Chiefs thought Tyreek was going to accept a team friendly deal like Kelce did. Something (or someone) obviously changed his mind. Rosenhaus is a pile of human garbage and I'm sure had a lot to do with it.

Hope he enjoys partying and losing. Miami isn't winning a damn thing anytime soon. Some people are in it to win, Ty is clearly just in it for the lifestyle, which is fine. He can take that shit elsewhere.

We are justifying this trade by saying we couldn’t pay him. That’s not true. We could have kept him ONE more year (he had one year left on his contract) and then traded him next year.

I agree, but it’s really easy to say that when it’s not your money.

Most of us have faced the prospects of leaving our hometown, our family, and friends for more money, a better climate, a better career path. Almost all of us have, or have been very tempted to do it. Most of us have the wisdom and hindsight of age (far) beyond his 28, and we also had several X the "earning years" to change course if we were unhappy. Hill has a short amount of time to accumulate a much wealth as possible, and he took the money, like most of us would. It hurts, but it is hard to blame him, and I don't know if I would call him "dumb".

Hill essentially gets 25 mil a year with the Dolphins.

Meanwhile KC paid Clark 25.8 last year, Honey Badger 19.8 last year, and Hitchens 10.6 last year.

This year Jones is set to make 29.4 and Clark makes another 13.7.

People want to say he priced himself out, but KC has been overpaying players who don't have near the same impact.

I can tell you without question, I would take less $ to stay in a better place with better teammates. I've been offered jobs that would have paid more and turned them down.


Hill made it clear it was all about $ and we have all seen this play out many many many times in the NFL and other sports, it rarely works for the player in the long run when it comes to helping their legacy.

He threatened to sit out.

How would that have played out? The distraction? The void at WR1 while chewing up cap space?

Its not about 1 year though, its about multiple year cap impacts. Which is why Clark just had to restructure and why Jones will have to restructure.

Why do you think Hill had a $20MM cap this season? He wasn't making $20MM.

Mahomes cap hits are going to increase significantly at some point as well.

Fesco fron his guys that are in the know said they offered like 60 mil guaranteed but the Adam's deal hit and wanted to get more and the Chiefs said we can't.

The compensation difference is massive, I would imagine. Easy to say if you’re talking going from $150k to $200k annually.

One thing nobody really seems to be mentioning and it's the most simple of all this; Hill didn't want to be here anymore. He lives in Miami and wanted to be there.

Believe it or not, some players don't love the Kansas City Chiefs as much as we do. Shocking I know, but it's true. :)

No he didn't say they were the same. He said the last time he felt this emotional about the loss of a player (no longer with the chiefs) was DT...and I agree. The realization you won't see them play for the chiefs is the same...death or trade, they're not going to be a part of our Sunday games anymore. No one is saying death and trade are the same.

My bad, for clarificaiton, those are cap hit numbers I gave. My point remains, KC hasn't spent and structured wisely. Yes, Clark had to restructure, but he still cost KC almost 26 mil last year and will cost another nearly 14 mil against the cap this year. Quite frankly, he's sucked the last two years.

With no state income tax in Florida it helps sweeten the deal but like I said, the lifestyle change between $21MM a year and $25.5MM a year is negligible.

If it isn't, no amount of $ is going to be enough to sustain you down the road.

Keeping Hill and having never signed Clark sounds great in hindsight, but that's all it is.

He’s already an All Pro and Super Bowl champ. He may see his legacy as a success already, so now it’s time to collect every last dime he can.

Maybe not the way I would do it, but I won’t resent him for it.

At least he didn’t make a huge public scene about it and kill our leverage in a trade.

Would’ve sucked to be forced to unload him for like just a second round pick or get outbid in free agency.

Who cares if he wanted to leave? I’m still dumbfounded that we had him under contract for one more year and could have kept him on the relatively cheap next year and then traded him next year for the same value of picks.

He was going to sit out. This has been mentioned several times.

Did Hill see the weather outside? You don't get that kind of awsome stuff in Miami.

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You wouldn’t have got the same deal next year as you did yesterday…

I just don’t buy that he’d sit for any substantial amount of time. He’s got too much of a questionable past that the media has already lied about that wouldn’t be good for him or his value for him to draw that much attention to himself. Who have we seen sit out with ONE YEAR left on their contract? Lev Bell was about to be franchised.

Absolutely not. I usually stay mostly unemotional about players leaving because it is a business. But for some reason this one has bothered me. Probably because we drafted, developed him into a HOF/generational player and those guys don’t come around very often and we traded him in his prime. This is like breaking up Rice/Montana in their prime IMVHO.

I will feel way worse though if it were Mahomes.

The argument about more money is moot. 21 million a year versus 30...who cares. At that point you could be set if you are smart. How many of us will make 21 million in our lifetimes?

It was about bragging rights and feeling important. These athletes are alpha males and currency or the hall of fame are really the only two things that show how alpha you are. Rings are a team thing.

All of this is fine. It's his call. But I agree with a previous poster that with mahomes, hill had the ability to be remembered as one of the best ever. Now he'll have to settle for the money and being great. His call.

I wonder if Tyreek would still put his SB ring on the line against Usain Bolt.

That would be crazy if he did... lost it, and never got another because he went to the Dolphins.

One thing we can all be proud of is the culture Reid has built here because if you read the Nate Taylor story in the Athletic they let Hill pick the team and would have taken the Jets deal. So it wasn’t easy for them and they tried to take care of Hill.

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I can appreciate that. I think it's difficult to visualize the Chiefs without Hill because he's become such an important part of the fabric of the team. The guy is legitimately the most exciting player in the entire league and he played on OUR TEAM. It's infinite the number of times I've thought, "Gosh, I'm so happy that guy is on our side."

It feels weird now. But we almost lost him to ignominious circumstances a few years ago. At least we got another 3 years from him, a Super Bowl title, and some real compensation in return.

My advice would be to just wait until the draft. We all have a tendency to massively overrate our picks, and given how many we have this year, we'll have a lot to be excited about and hopeful for.

The sadness around losing Tyreek will fade like anything else.

As long as we have Mahomes, this is The Way.

May the window be ever open.

Miami clubs are a bit more fun for a 28-year-old than KCP&L.

Wouldn't we have just packaged it in with the Hill trade?

Here you are being all reasonable and shit. Making it difficult for us emotional ones to just cry out loud LMAO

I’m already over it. Let’s grab a FA WR and draft a couple that Reid and Veach like. WBF

I remember justifying traveling for the AFCCG with the thought of seeing Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce playing together for championships being finite.

**** that game and now here we are. Woof.

Oh well, off to the draft and a newer-ish era of Chiefs football.

I’d be surprised if we have all this picks come draft day. Veach will likely swing a trade for a WR before then.

Man…taking Clyde over Higgins still hurts. We’d still have Higgins, Kelce and Hardman with maybe Juju today. That’s actually not that bad.

Just goes to show how much one pick can mean. Burt will need to remember that next month

The Chiefs will be fine without Hill. We've had to play games where he was out, or limited, and Patrick never missed a beat.

There are 11 qbs in the league right now that make more money than Tyreek Hill. He's making more money than most of the starting quarterbacks in the league.

As much as I hate to refer to Bill Belicheat and the Cheatriots, we've seen them get their fans panties in a bunch moving on from supposedly untouchable players, and using the draft compensation to continue to build a roster that contended for titles for two decades.

We moved one player, and have the rights at this moment to bring in FIVE in return as well as a pretty big chunk of cap opening up.

This is how you have to do this. You can't have 5 diamonds and 48 JAGs and hope it works out.

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Dear NFL defenses,
So you figured us out…. Play 2 deep and take away our biggest threat.. Well **** you.. We just traded who you were so afraid of and are going to evolve to something different…
We still have Patrick and now he has no choice but to throw underneath your safeties.. We have cap room and draft picks to reload and make your life hell because you just blew up your cap trying to keep up with us…
We may take a step back this year but soon you will regret forcing us to evolve to a monster…
Hugs and kisses… The Kansas City Chiefs.

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If your earning window was 10-15 years you would be an idiot not too change for 50% more comp.

This is the biggest problem to me. Veach has shown no ability whatsoever to draft offensive weapons.

The picks are nice but won't mean shit if Veach isn't able to hit on them.

It's times like these that I wish we had a different GM who we know for a fact would hit on those picks. A guy whose name rhymes with Ron Horsey.

Oh for ****'s sake.

You're ****ing miserable.

Yeah let’s bring back the loser that squandered draft picks in Cleveland. The guy who had an entire year off to scout and still decided to take Baker Mayfield over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.

John Dorsey sucks

He drafted the best pick pick in chiefs history.

With the help of Andy Reid and Brett Veach. We saw how good he was on his own in Cleveland. He had tons of picks and squandered most of them

He drafted the core of our championship team.

Veach has been riding his coattails for years now.

Now that he's dismantling the team that Dorsey built he's going to get exposed.

Dorsey gets credit for orchestrating the trade. Veach is the scout that was on Mahomes.

Is that a rhetorical questions? If not, the answer is Derek Carr...

I mean let’s be honest what has been beached best draft pick so far?

Creed/Smith are only home runs he’s hit this far

He also drafted Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward, when he could have taken Josh Allen and Derwin James. Imagine the Browns with those 2 . . . . . .

So, maybe he didn't do it all on his own here, and maybe we should stop sucking his dick because of one draft day trade he orchestrated that he probably never makes if there aren't 2 or 3 guys on the Chiefs brass (Veach being one) pounding the table for him(Mahomes).

We could of had DK instead of Hardman

The wall is Tyreek

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Again Brett has hit two home runs, Creed/Smith the rest have been solid but not home runs, or they are out of the league

Or McLaurin.

I do think the Chiefs will focus on route running this time as they don't want to miss the same way.

So sick of we need Dorsey shit. Dorsey was fired by two teams in less than 5 years. Did he get a ring? No. He's a shit GM and not every player he picked is good.

You're talking about a Day 2 pick 'miss' versus missing on TWO Top 5 picks.

Something about apples and oranges comes to mind here . . . . . .

Sneed.

Easily.

Sneed was absolutely a HR.

Bolton could be as well.

It’s hard to have a ton of HRs when you’re picking late and rarely have a 1st round pick.

Dorsey draft Hill? Kelce? Mahomes? Etc he obviously had issue but let’s not act like Dorsey didn’t hit some home runs

Beat me by seconds lol.