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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14562073)
And he should start there. Come off the field in nickel like most other LB's.

We should have been playing him all along...
Exactly!! I don’t know why Spags waited till now to play him. Dudes been phenomenal in the run game. Straight up demolished Jones last game

xztop123 10-29-2019 02:46 PM
Why can’t we find a freak muscular linebacker. Like pat willis. Or ray lewis. Some guy that just looks the part. Even dj wasn’t that.

Rausch 10-29-2019 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 14562074)
Sorensen gets obliterated by blocks. And the white linebacker we have has no athleticism. He’s decent in coverage but he may have the least muscular arms on the field at any given time.
Sorenson plays because we have no depth at CB or LB.

And we just don't have any LB's other than Ragland that can tackle. Forget cover, we're horrid at tackling...

The Franchise 10-29-2019 02:47 PM
How come we can’t find a hall of fame player guys!? Why is it so hard!?

DJ's left nut 10-29-2019 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14562009)
You don't think that, as a whole, Chiefs fans feel like we DESERVE to win a Super Bowl after not getting there for decades?
Not at all. At least not any moreso than any other fans.

Patriots fans feel entitled because they always win. Vikings and Lions fans feel it because they NEVER win. And when it's an across the board phenomena, then it isn't a sense of 'entitlement' but rather....just the norm.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14562082)
Sorenson plays because we have no depth at CB or LB.

And we just don't have any LB's other than Ragland that can tackle. Forget cover, we're horrid at tackling...
This is why Lee hasn’t seen the field. Until he learns to tackle his ass will be on the bench

Dante84 10-29-2019 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 14562074)
Sorensen gets obliterated by blocks. And the white linebacker we have has no athleticism. He’s decent in coverage but he may have the least muscular arms on the field at any given time.
https://i.redd.it/nf7y2c3kd3oz.gif

DJ's left nut 10-29-2019 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14561969)
What am I?
A goooood boy.

Suuuuch a good boy.


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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14562088)
DROPPING THE HAMMER!!

Rausch 10-29-2019 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14562088)
Forget Knee-man, that's ELBOW-man...:)

O.city 10-29-2019 02:49 PM
If Chris Harris doesn't play for Denver I wonder if the Chiefs make that trade.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 02:50 PM
Teams still making moves!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> are signing free agent K Nick Folk, source said. Most recently, he held the AAF record for longest field goal at 55 yards. He’s also played for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bucs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bucs</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a>.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1189282461525655553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rausch 10-29-2019 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14562095)
If Chris Harris doesn't play for Denver I wonder if the Chiefs make that trade.
I'd still try.

I'm sure they'll tell us to go fist ourselves but I'd make the call...

O.city 10-29-2019 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14562091)
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DJ's left nut 10-29-2019 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14562024)
So yeah....it’s as bad as I thought it was.

****ing hell man.
Zach Cunningham is one that's burned for awhile.

2 spots ahead of K-Pass and a guy that would've been a pretty perfect DJ replacement. He's not a star, but he'd help us a LOT right now.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14562102)
Zach Cunningham is one that's burned for awhile.

2 spots ahead of K-Pass and a guy that would've been a pretty perfect DJ replacement. He's not a star, but he'd help us a LOT right now.
Or how about this. Luke Keuchly went 1 spot ahead of Poe and multiple sources said we were interested in Keuchly

BryanBusby 10-29-2019 02:53 PM
I remember being pissed when he went before the Chiefs picked. So damn close...****ing Dorsey.

OKchiefs 10-29-2019 02:54 PM
Why draft a linebacker when you can instead draft a worthless fat **** like Breeland Speaks with your first pick.

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-29-2019 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562096)
Teams still making moves!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> are signing free agent K Nick Folk, source said. Most recently, he held the AAF record for longest field goal at 55 yards. He’s also played for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bucs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bucs</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a>.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1189282461525655553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This post epitomizes your lack of any valuable football knowledge.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 02:55 PM
Maybe we don’t need any players...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC is 2nd in offensive efficiency after 1.5 Mahomes-less games and multiple games without Hill/Fisher/Watkins. (per <a href="https://twitter.com/fboutsiders?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@fboutsiders</a>)<br><br>17th in defensive efficiency after multiple games without Jones and missing other starters for stretches.<br><br>Thought I&#39;d put that out in the universe.</p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1189281306733170690?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 10-29-2019 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14562102)
Zach Cunningham is one that's burned for awhile.

2 spots ahead of K-Pass and a guy that would've been a pretty perfect DJ replacement. He's not a star, but he'd help us a LOT right now.
Yeah....Cunningham was one of the players that I wanted that year. Still ****ing sucks.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 02:59 PM
WE MADE A MOVE!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs signed former Rice punter Jack Fox to the practice squad after his Ravens workout</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1189284073828737024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JakeF 10-29-2019 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562121)
WE MADE A MOVE!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs signed former Rice punter Jack Fox to the practice squad after his Ravens workout</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1189284073828737024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Interesting, i wonder if that means the Chiefs are looking for a cheaper contract at Punter next year. Colquitt could be gone.

RunKC 10-29-2019 03:01 PM
Was there a good move made this year?

Dolphins raped the Steelers for Fitzpatrick in probably the worst trade of the year
Patriots got raped in compensation for a 30 year old Sami
Jags raped the Rams for Ramsey in a big overpayment
Rams got rid of a guy who is now on his 3rd team in 5 years on a rookie contract LMAO
Dolphins got a 33 year old broken corner who can’t play until the last 2 games if that
Giants got an underperforming DL for chump change that they will have to pay
Browns graded a JAG LB to Philly

Only good moves I felt were made were the Emmanuel Sanders and Kenyan Drake deals. Obviously we couldn’t trade with Denver so...

xztop123 10-29-2019 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14562082)
Sorenson plays because we have no depth at CB or LB.

And we just don't have any LB's other than Ragland that can tackle. Forget cover, we're horrid at tackling...
I think the athleticism is bad at linebacker. Lee is fast but I’m talking about whole body athleticism and strength. But I’m not even sure that’s the problem. I think the d line may be the issue.

Look at videos of ray lewis shooting a gap. He slams that shit closed like a freight train. If our 250 pound linebackers don’t do that then you might as well load up with undersized ones.

Hitchens lacks athleticism all around. Just a regular big body dude.

Linebacker is the one position where you can show me a pic of a guy shirtless and I can tell you who I want on my team.

JakeF 10-29-2019 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14562125)
Was there a good move made this year?

Dolphins raped the Steelers for Fitzpatrick in probably the worst trade of the year
Patriots got raped in compensation for a 30 year old Sami
Jags raped the Rams for Ramsey in a big overpayment
Rams got rid of a guy who is now on his 3rd team in 5 years on a rookie contract LMAO
Dolphins got a 33 year old broken corner who can’t play until the last 2 games if that
Giants got an underperforming DL for chump change that they will have to pay
Browns graded a JAG LB to Philly

Only good moves I felt were made were the Emmanuel Sanders and Kenyan Drake deals. Obviously we couldn’t trade with Denver so...
Didn't Fitzpatrick just make 2 interceptions?

I believe the Steelers consider the trade for Fitzpatrick to be a long term trade situation.

DJ's left nut 10-29-2019 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14562110)
Why draft a linebacker when you can instead draft a worthless fat **** like Breeland Speaks with your first pick.
Which is how you get to the "maybe just try a few times?" stage of the program.

I'm not gonna kill them for not spotting every single decent potential 4-3 backer; I get that it can be difficult.

But if you won't even spin the wheel here and there, you can't even get a guy like, say, Fred Warner in here. And Warner's a solid player who you'll stumble onto every few seasons if you just make a damn effort.

Just seems strange that we don't.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 10-29-2019 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14562014)
Well you run into the same problem we run into when asking why Dorsey didn't draft more difference makers on defense - priority.

I mean...we haven't really tried.

Lets look at all the capital spent on off-ball LBs since DJ (I assume you're not including Hali, Houston or Ford in this and mean strictly off-ball guys not edge players):

2006: None
2007: None
2008: None
2009: None

So right away we have a 4 year stretch where we put literally NOTHING at the position. Not even a 7th round pick.

2010: Maybe you squint and say Cameron Sheffield at pick 142; a converted DE.
2011: Gabe Miller - pick 140
2012: None
2013: Nico Johnson - pick 99
2014: None
2015: Ramik Wilson -Pick 118 and DJ Alexander at 172
2016: None
2017: Ukeme Eligwe - pick 183
2018: DoD - Pick 100


In 14 years --- FOURTEEN YEARS -- we've drafted seven guys who might be classified as off-ball linebackers and even that includes DJ Alexander and Cam Sheffield who were always seen as some kind of hybrid/edge sort of players. But give ya all 7 just to be sporting; one every other year.

And in that lot we have a 3rd rounder (dead back of the round) two 4th rounders and four 5th rounders. I mean shit, since 2005 we've spent a 3rd and a 7th on a kicker and a punter. Even the trades are 5th rounders in 2 seasons for Ragland and stuff like that; nominal assets.

Now to some degree it's explained by the time we spent in a 3-4 over that period AND the presence of DJ. You've never felt the need to prioritize the position. But it's still worth pointing out that we've struggled there because we haven't tried - rightly or wrongly, we simply haven't made an effort at that position. We've drafted better than half that lot in the 5th round and spent a 5th rounder on Ragland. Value the position at roughly the 5th round and you probably shouldn't be surprised by a pittance of a return.

It's past time to change that thinking.
You could make an argument every single one of those picks was special teams too, not even for actually bringing in a LB. Most times if you’re drafting hybrids or LBs in those rounds that’s what you’re looking for. Hell, even when we drafted DOD Veach said they made the pick bc he was their “highest rated special teams player in the draft.”

BryanBusby 10-29-2019 03:06 PM
The only trade that really just didn't make sense at all was the Giants trade. Why didn't they just keep Snacks? Pretty stupid.

DJ's left nut 10-29-2019 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard (Post 14562136)
You could make an argument every single one of those picks was special teams too, not even for actually bringing in a LB. Most times if you’re drafting hybrids or LBs in those rounds that’s what you’re looking for. Hell, even when we drafted DOD Veach said they made the pick bc he was their “highest rated special teams player in the draft.”
No argument from me at all there.

Nico Johnson was probably the only guy in that group that we didn't draft knowing full well that he was a special teamer or not gonna make the team at all. Ramik Wilson might have been taken with an eye on eventually being a starter.

But no question - just about everyone in that group was taken as a special teamer and the squad almost certainly never considered them potential starters.

But like I said - the only way to make the exercise sporting was to give the team the benefit of the doubt. And even still, it's a rough lot.

Kiimo 10-29-2019 03:21 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have signed P Jack Fox to their practice squad, releasing WR Cody Thompson to free a spot on the squad.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1189287708658679809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


NOW i'm angry.

xztop123 10-29-2019 03:23 PM
What a joke. Just looking at those names.

Do we have shitty athletic trainers? Some of those bama guys were big studs in college and they look like snails on kc.

Aside from dj was Donnie Edwards the last stud we have at lb? Lmfao

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14562152)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have signed P Jack Fox to their practice squad, releasing WR Cody Thompson to free a spot on the squad.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1189287708658679809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


NOW i'm angry.
We seriously released Thompson.... for a kicker!!! Screw your Veach

Naptown Chief 10-29-2019 03:27 PM
I had a doctors appointment. I'm guessing no pieces of shit were traded for?

Kiimo 10-29-2019 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Naptown Chief (Post 14562162)
I had a doctors appointment. I'm guessing no pieces of shit were traded for?
There was one trade in the entire NFL.





But hey we signed a backup PUNTER so we could release the star WR of training camp.

JakeF 10-29-2019 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562121)
WE MADE A MOVE!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs signed former Rice punter Jack Fox to the practice squad after his Ravens workout</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1189284073828737024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Cut Dieter and then hire him as a quality control coach and save the roster spot. His sole purpose is befriending Mahomes anyway. Who in the **** wastes a roster spot for the buddy of another player?

In58men 10-29-2019 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562158)
We seriously released Thompson.... for a kicker!!! Screw your Veach
You also got mad when we released Dieter.

Wtf has he done again?

Naptown Chief 10-29-2019 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14562164)
There was one trade in the entire NFL.





But hey we signed a backup PUNTER so we could release the star WR of training camp.
WOOOO **** YES!

arrowheadnation 10-29-2019 03:31 PM
The signing of the punter is interesting....wonder if colquitt could be a cap casualty next year.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 14562170)
The signing of the punter is interesting....wonder if colquitt could be a cap casualty next year.
Yea let’s cut Colquitt to save about 1 mil

carcosa 10-29-2019 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562171)
Yea let’s cut Colquitt to save about 1 mil
Yeah?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 03:56 PM
We would save 2 mil if we cut Colquitt

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 04:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> engaged in talks with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> on S Jamal Adams and NYJ was only willing to part with Adams for a 1st rounder and two 2nd rounders, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/SlaterNFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SlaterNFL</a>. That is a LOT and shows Adams’ value.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1189301235935010817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiTown 10-29-2019 04:05 PM
I guess I'm not really that surprised we stood pat.

I suppose Chiefs management has determined that we'll heal up quick enough to go 5-3 or better in the 2nd half, win the West and get rolling by Playoff time. Here's hoping........

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 04:07 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> tried... per source they offered a 1st and a third-day pick. <a href="https://t.co/cS6w1dLu08">https://t.co/cS6w1dLu08</a></p>&mdash; Jane Slater (@SlaterNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/SlaterNFL/status/1189301858516570113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

New World Order 10-29-2019 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562209)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> tried... per source they offered a 1st and a third-day pick. <a href="https://t.co/cS6w1dLu08">https://t.co/cS6w1dLu08</a></p>&mdash; Jane Slater (@SlaterNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/SlaterNFL/status/1189301858516570113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Why would they think the Jets would even entertain that offer?

Easy 6 10-29-2019 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 14562205)
I guess I'm not really that surprised we stood pat.

I suppose Chiefs management has determined that we'll heal up quick enough to go 5-3 or better in the 2nd half, win the West and get rolling by Playoff time. Here's hoping........
It doesn’t seem to have helped that teams were seemingly asking for the sun, moon and stars for anyone of note

As you say, let’s just get healthy and take the west, then...

In Mahomes We Trust

Chief Roundup 10-29-2019 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 14561479)
All these people against Bell are the same ones saying we need to run the ball more to protect Mahomes. :facepalm:
Some of us realize it is not about the RB as much as the coach, Andy Reid, when it comes to actually running the damn ball. Andy refuses because he wants to pass. It is not because we don't have a good RB.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 04:19 PM
Raiders signing LBs meanwhile Veach doesn’t do a damn thing

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders have re-signed Brandon Marshall, source said. Raiders are also signing Will Compton for LB depth. And...they are signing OL/Center Erik Magnuson off of Buffalo&#39;s practice squad.</p>&mdash; Scott Bair (@BairNBCS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BairNBCS/status/1189283086221090816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2019 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562224)
Raiders signing LBs meanwhile Veach doesn’t do a damn thing

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders have re-signed Brandon Marshall, source said. Raiders are also signing Will Compton for LB depth. And...they are signing OL/Center Erik Magnuson off of Buffalo&#39;s practice squad.</p>&mdash; Scott Bair (@BairNBCS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BairNBCS/status/1189283086221090816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
You’re such a ****ing idiot it hurts.

Tribal Warfare 10-29-2019 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14562166)
Cut Dieter and then hire him as a quality control coach and save the roster spot. His sole purpose is befriending Mahomes anyway. Who in the **** wastes a roster spot for the buddy of another player?
Dieter is the equivalent of the Turtle character in PMII's entourage.

Mecca 10-29-2019 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14562213)
Why would they think the Jets would even entertain that offer?
Because teams are dumb and over value players? The Jets aren't good and he'll leave also no safety other than prime Ed Reed is worth more than a 1.

Tribal Warfare 10-29-2019 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14562227)
You’re such a ****ing idiot it hurts.
It's penbrook bro

CaliforniaChief 10-29-2019 04:30 PM
Why couldn't we trade Penbrook to Warpaint Illustrated for a poster never to be named later?

TwistedChief 10-29-2019 04:37 PM
Sometimes Penbrook makes me miss Ubeja.

BryanBusby 10-29-2019 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14562249)
Sometimes Penbrook makes me miss Ubeja.
Nah. Wouldn't go that far.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14562227)
You’re such a ****ing idiot it hurts.
You think it’s funny now but just watch the same old shit happen in the playoffs. Brady is gonna torch our ass because we don’t have LBs that can cover

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2019 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562251)
You think it’s funny now but just watch the same old shit happen in the playoffs. Brady is gonna torch our ass because we don’t have LBs that can cover
Please name the LB that they should have acquired who can address the issue themselves along with the compensation you would have gave.

And it can’t be Luke ****ing Kuechly or Bobby Wagner because that would never happen.

Lee and DOD are cover LBers. If/how they wanna use those guys is TBD, but that’s your options. We have no idea how the coaching staff will approach that moving forward, they may even use a safety against teams that really lean on RBs in the passing game.

FloridaMan88 10-29-2019 04:42 PM
No more trade rumors until at least February.

Thank Jesus.

crispystl 10-29-2019 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14562249)
Sometimes Penbrook makes me miss Ubeja.
Are Penbrook and Ubeja related? UBEJA!

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14562252)
Please name the LB that they should have acquired who can address the issue themselves along with the compensation you would have gave.

And it can’t be Luke ****ing Kuechly or Bobby Wagner because that would never happen.

Lee and DOD are cover LBers. If/how they wanna use those guys is TBD, but that’s your options. We have no idea how the coaching staff will approach that moving forward, they may even use a safety against teams that really lean on RBs in the passing game.
I liked your idea of Schobert. Would’ve done a third and a fifth

Coogs 10-29-2019 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14562082)
Sorenson plays because we have no depth at CB or LB.

And we just don't have any LB's other than Ragland that can tackle. Forget cover, we're horrid at tackling...
I thought Wilson was tackling pretty well Sunday night.

TEX 10-29-2019 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14562252)
Please name the LB that they should have acquired who can address the issue themselves along with the compensation you would have gave.

And it can’t be Luke ****ing Kuechly or Bobby Wagner because that would never happen.

Lee and DOD are cover LBers. If/how they wanna use those guys is TBD, but that’s your options. We have no idea how the coaching staff will approach that moving forward, they may even use a safety against teams that really lean on RBs in the passing game.
Are you talking about now, or all of this past off season, when they settled on arguably one of the worst LB corps in the league? Not much they can do now, BUT when they were building the defense, they could have. :shrug:

xztop123 10-29-2019 04:54 PM
I was high on veach until frank clark.

One of his claims to fame was his push for eagles drafting McCoy whos now cost us drastically.

Mahomes is also a qb who’s stats have been inflated by all the shovel passes and Tyreek hills speed.

Whoever pushed for hill (it may have actually been toub) is the genius behind this offense.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2019 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14562268)
Are you talking about now, or all of this past off season, when they settled on arguably one of the worst LB corps in the league? Not much they can do now, BUT when they were building the defense, they could have. :shrug:
We’re talking about the exact reason they drafted DOD and traded for Lee.

That’s 2 attempts to address the issue—neither of which we’ve seen pay off enough this year... yet. Fingers crossed.

The Franchise 10-29-2019 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562264)
I liked your idea of Schobert. Would’ve done a third and a fifth
After I brought up trading for Schobert....you made a comment that he sucked.

TwistedChief 10-29-2019 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 14562270)
Mahomes is also a qb who’s stats have been inflated by all the shovel passes and Tyreek hills speed.
Putting aside your abortion-like use of "who's" and "whose," this might be the worst post of the entire thread. Your punishment is to be marooned on Cassel Island with Mahomo.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14562288)
After I brought up trading for Schobert....you made a comment that he sucked.
Show me where I said that. I said PFF said he sucks. I never said he does

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2019 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562296)
Show me where I said that. I said PFF said he sucks. I never said he does
It was a tweet you shared from some rando on Twitter. I distinctly recall.

TwistedChief 10-29-2019 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14562282)
We’re talking about the exact reason they drafted DOD and traded for Lee.

That’s 2 attempts to address the issue—neither of which we’ve seen pay off enough this year... yet. Fingers crossed.
They signed Wilson and traded for Lee. They brought in House as their LBers coach. How do people think we did nothing to try and improve the position?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-29-2019 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14562300)
They signed Wilson and traded for Lee. They brought in House as their LBers coach. How do people think we did nothing to try and improve the position?
Lee was for a sixth round pick and Wilson was a special teams player in Dallas. We are looking for significant change just not marginal change

The Franchise 10-29-2019 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14562298)
It was a tweet you shared from some rando on Twitter. I distinctly recall.
Yep.

TwistedChief 10-29-2019 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562303)
Lee was for a sixth round pick and Wilson was a special teams player in Dallas. We are looking for significant change just not marginal change
They had signed Hitchens to a big deal the year prior. The knock on him and reason for his regression was hesitancy brought on by scheme. They prioritized upgrading the safety position - an absolute necessity - and re-tooled said scheme with Spags. This board was jerking off at the idea that House and Daly were *assistant* coaches. We signed Wilson and took a flyer on Lee in hopes of upgrading the position.

Please someone go back in time and tell me what we should've done. Let me guess: sign CJ Mosley? ROFL

pugsnotdrugs19 10-29-2019 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562303)
Lee was for a sixth round pick and Wilson was a special teams player in Dallas. We are looking for significant change just not marginal change
Wilson was a base package starter in Dallas but beyond that.

This just speaks to a bigger picture issue overall and that is that teams can’t simply address every issue on a roster each season. There’s too many spots to fill.

No team is without holes.

tredadda 10-29-2019 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14562300)
They signed Wilson and traded for Lee. They brought in House as their LBers coach. How do people think we did nothing to try and improve the position?
Because we don’t have prime LT, Ray Lewis, and DT as our starting linebackers and we didn’t trade for them for like 6th round picks.

Coogs 10-29-2019 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562303)
Lee was for a sixth round pick and Wilson was a special teams player in Dallas. We are looking for significant change just not marginal change
Wilson was a fricking beast at times Sunday. If he keeps coming on we got a steal there.

Coogs 10-29-2019 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562303)
Lee was for a sixth round pick and Wilson was a special teams player in Dallas. We are looking for significant change just not marginal change
Wilson was a fricking beast at times Sunday. If he keeps coming on we got a steal there.

Toad 10-29-2019 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 14562474)
Wilson was a fricking beast at times Sunday. If he keeps coming on we got a steal there.
I agree on both those last posts;)

Chris Meck 10-30-2019 07:26 AM
Veach makes move:
CP- Oh my god, I can't believe he gave up so much for that player! What the ****! Fire Veach!

Veach doesn't make move:
CP-Oh my god, what is he doing? Fire Veach!

DJ's left nut 10-30-2019 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14562203)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> engaged in talks with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> on S Jamal Adams and NYJ was only willing to part with Adams for a 1st rounder and two 2nd rounders, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/SlaterNFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SlaterNFL</a>. That is a LOT and shows Adams’ value.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1189301235935010817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
What's that show, exactly?

That his value is LESS than a 1st and 2 seconds? Because nobody bit at their asking price.

If I refuse to take a job at less than $500K/yr and remain unemployed, all that does is establish that my value ISN'T $500K/yr. So all we've established is what Adams value isn't, not what it is.

Pretty stupid tweet.


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