LMAO 2nd overall quarterback rating is "performing at a backup level".

Any team that pays top dollar for a QB and has no title over paid.

ROFL

Who?

Your Chiefsplanet idiot, ladies and gentlemen.

Yes, leaving was good. Very, VERY good.
LMAO

****in' perfect.

I'm just kicking back, waiting for the inevitable "head removal"-highlight clip.
Might actually put that one in the family album.

"Out go the lights, in goes the knife
pull out his life, consider that bastard dead".

Ahhh...MUCH better.

As SNR pointed out, there were several dominoes that had to fall in to place in order to make that trade happen. Yes, the Chiefs did FINALLY get some luck to go with their planning.

"Planning". "Chiefs". Yep, there's two words that didn't go together until Dorsey arrived. Glad Veach is around to keep it moving forward.

No. Wrong. Incorrect. Factually inaccurate.

Smith's QB rating from 2013-2016 was 92.2.

That would have ranked 17th in 2015.

His YPA was 7.0.

That would have ranked 25th in 2015.

Backup level play.

Blow me.

Clearly talking about your assertion that Huard player at a "backup level" in 2006, you ****ing idiot.

Let's all keep in mind that Bortles counts 2m more against the cap than Smith did.

QBs who had more yards per start and more TDs per start than Alex Smith from 2013-2016.

Ryan Tannehill
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Carson Palmer
Sam Bradford
Josh McCown
Blake Bortles
Kirk Cousins
Jay Cutler

LMAO

Overpaid.

Smith is gone stop the same bullshit arguments.

Hey, at least you shifted the goalposts from "backup QB" to just "overpaid".

No. I still maintain he performed at a backup QB level from 2013-2016.

Below average in yards per game, TDs per game, YPA and QB rating.

I’ve never seen someone live in someone’s head rent free like Alex Smith does to Clay. It’s crazy.

Also, Alex was a top 10 paid QB 1 time in 2015 but it wasn’t a big deal since he was making penning the year before. He was an average QB and paid as such.

LMAO at your bullshit. GTFO

Facts, not fiction, you turd.

And that's why his ass is GONE.

The QB Whisperer speaks

The QB Whisperer has innate knowledge that can't be taught or learned.

Five total playoff games in five years. One win.

Who gives about appearances when there was zero progression?

They followed up the second worst blown league ever by missing the playoffs entirely.

Then, they followed up the supposed monkey-off-the-point turning point with a postseason win sealed up with the opening kickoff with three straight playoff losses -the last two of which were at Arrowhead.

Blame defense, blame drops, blame injuries... whatever. The common thread through all of this wonderful playoff success was Kansas City's fortunes were determined by who had the better QB on paper.

Surprise surprise, they lost each and every time they didn't have the superior QB compared to their opponent.

Smith was a conservative QB, who needed a strong running game and defense to win ball games. He did his part for the most part by keeping his teams in positions to win by not losing the TO battle. He took care of the ball, which was huge let's not pretend that had a lot to do w/ the good record he had while he was here.

BUT...

If the defense wasn't creating TO's or weren't keeping teams out of the endzone and if he ever had to get into a track meet w/ an opponent he usually came up on the losing end (when his team allowed 24+ ppg). He's not the QB that can get you past the good teams in this league, and we all saw that. We all saw the offense go into stall fetal position mode too many times w/ Smith. At least w/ Mahomes, we'll know that hell throw past the chains and extend plays. With Mahomes, the range of field to cover just got a lot bigger for opposing defenses.

Chiefs from 1989-1992/1995

Chiefs from 2013-2017

It was the DeBerg/Krieg/Bono bullshit all over again, only this time we paid big money to the QB and traded two second round picks for him.

Total ****ing waste of time and energy for all parties involved.

They could have accomplished that with a lot of dudes, less expensive dudes. The team Andy Reid inherited was very talented, just needed competent coaching and organization and a non-fuqstiq QB who was being forced on the coach.

Instead of locking up Smith after 2013, they could have instead locked up Justin Houston and saved a good dose of money from extending him after his awesome 2014.

If there's anything our easily satisfied, low expectation fanbase has proven, it's that people will flock out for a team that scrapes into the playoffs and has no shot at playoff success.

Just because those guys were garbage doesn't mean I'm going to be satisfied with a guy who steadily lived between "average" NFL starter and "bottom third" NFL starter.

Yay, he protected the football and didn't get hurt. Whoop de ****ing do.

I think you could have found a lot of guys who would have given KC 80-90 percent of what Alex Smith did for most of his tenure.

Shit, one of them was on the roster (Daniel). Smith didn't do anything you wouldn't expect a good backup QB to pull off.

Carson Palmer would have been a better option.

My point with the "luck" factor is ... even finding a willing partner who would make the trade is a stroke of luck. Good evaluation, but the cookie had to crumble just right for KC to make that trade.

It could have worked out better in not completely wasting five years of time.

The Chiefs are in good shape now, but could be in even better shape had one of those second-round picks been turned into a good young player. Maybe it's a LB. Maybe it's a pass rusher. I don't care.

But give me some pairing of Palmer/Daniel/Moore/etc with those two picks instead of Alex Smith, as well as the saved salary from 2014+, and I'm certain I come out no worse and possibly better.

New Directive:

Practitioners of 'Smith Apologetics' are to be absolutely ****ing crucified for being too goddamned stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Maybe you idiotic ****s are okay with losing yet ANOTHER half decade of time,
Maybe you feel that being better than bad is good,
Maybe you just wish to be a contrarian.
None of these are justifiable.
And using that ****head's tenure as a Chief to justify the Mahomes/draft timeline should get you kicked squarely in the vagina, so absolutely stupid a "point of view" it is.

If you meet the above criteria, kindly cease breathing the Earth's valuable oxygen.
And, **** yourself,
and **** yourself,
and **** yourself again!

Idiot.

One of the poetic and beautiful post I have read. I am getting a bit teary eyed, but that could just be becuase of the stench the Alexsuxuals left behind after shitting all over the place

Being a master of Smith-destroying prose is a taxing affair to say the least, but I will continue to do my part until we "Silkwood shower" these pathetic ****ers right.

Down.

The radioactive-material.

Drain.

Why are Welcher and his fluffers still obsessed with the Redskins’ QB?

I'm not the one who keeps bumping this shit-sucking thread.

For the same reason complete idiots are showing misplaced gratitude to the worthless piece of shit?


:)

Is this post about fluffers and welcher? Fits better than OJ's glove.

I mean. Wow.

People are still going to bitch about that compensation. Yeah, I want to win a Super Bowl too, but get real here. The Chiefs were a god damn laughing stock that made the playoffs 4 times in basically 17 years prior. Having my Sunday's not be a laughable joke for 17 weeks for the last 5 years has been well worth those 2 second round picks that apparently you think are gold.

Good point

I said a long time ago they're more addicted to the CP battle than they care about the franchise.

It's like they binged Real World/Road Rules and absorbed the manufactured catfights like Tom Cruise did L.Ron Hubbard.

They could have transitioned to non-laughing stock status with a lot of guys + Andy Reid and a competent coaching staff. That's my point.

The reason they were a laughing stock was not the talent on the roster. It was the Coaching staff being a complete joke and Fat Scott forcing his hand-picked, complete garbage QB on the coach.

Not everyone gets a chubby simply from not being bad and being a playoff participant (which they still could have easily done with Carson Palmer. Or even a player of "good backup QB" quality like Moore or Daniel. Or Foles.

Get a chubby? Because I want to be entertained for a regular season instead of going 4-12 every year? Again, if you’re going to tell me the Chiefs would have had the same success with Chase Daniel or Matt Moore, I’m going to laugh at how ridiculous you are.

I’ll also laugh at Carson Palmer running an Andy Reid offense. A coach that puts a premium on a qb mobility having Palmer seems like an awful fit.

We get it, you didn’t like Alex, but complaining about compensation 5 years later when the team has flipped him for additional compensation is some nutpicking nonsense.

But you continue to think those 2nd rounders 4 and 5 years ago would have been better.

Alex Smith was always the 12th-20th highest paid starter in the league while in KC. He got paid what he was worth. That is an objective comparison. Comparing his salary to a 3rd string quarterback a decade ago is not a fairy comparison at all. Seriously, Tom Brady signed a 6 year $60 million contract in 2005 that made him the highest paid player in the league. So you can't even objectively compare Smith's salary to starters in 2006, much less to 3rd stringers. As usual, your post is full of fail.

It’s ridiculous! I ****ing hated Alex Smith but danced when I saw Kendall fuller and a third. It was great for a 33 year old Alex Smith. It’s not like we got a 4th round pick or cut him.

No he didn't.

He never deserved to make a starting quarterback's salary.

That's what I'm getting at.

He deserved to be paid a backup's salary for two seasons and then dumped unceremoniously when we had the opportunity to draft Derek Carr.

Smith had a year left on his contract when he was extended, at $7.5m.

THAT is what he is worth.

Yeah, I mean - this was the one time a trade/free agent/draft/something actually worked out in our favor, and not a "because Chiefs" like having the #1 overall pick was. We had the player in the most demand in an offseason where the market for that position was even higher than usual. For an average player we got a mid-level pick and a good, maybe great player. And given that we have an upgrade already on the roster, it's a coup.

Yeah, it'd be great if we were stuck with Derek Carr instead of Mahomes. Awesome take.

We're 1 month away from Alex leaving forever and Clay, Grover Dill and the rest of the gang are still raging. :rolleyes:

The rabid and unreasonable factions on both sides need to step back... its ****ing reeruned, and needs to die

You only say this because you're a Chiefs fan.

If Mahomes has 103 TD passes in his first four seasons there are going to be a lot of happy campers around here.

This franchise would absolutely not be "stuck" with Derek Carr. Andy Reid would have him throwing lasers.

Oh yeah??!?! How 'bout you take something disgusting, and preferably bulbous, and shove it into an orifice usually reserved in polite society for private gratification?

Maybe then, people of low standards in locations of ill-repute will offer you payment for the privilege of viewing your debased display.

Yes we would. He’s Kirk Cousins, who is Tony Romo, who is 2017 Alex Smith aka good stats but can’t handle pressure and win anything that matters.

Derek Carr has the 9th worst yards per pass attempt in NFL history and he had the most loaded offense in the conference the last 2 years.

He’s currently the most overrated player in the NFL with his price tag.

Clay (The Welsh) getting detained by customs are he tries to get his GF back into the country after a trip to Honduras. Sorry, The cheaper neighboring country to the north of Honduras


He (Clay) needs to go have a domestic violence session with new his sex doll then he may (may) look at Smith in a rational manner. Right now Clay is like the scorned ex wife who took the Frontier Communications stock in the divorce.

Smith was not all things to all people, could have done better, but I think the guy earned his paychecks.

I will be watching out of the corner of my eye to see what he does on Sundays. I think we maybe surprised how much of this comes back to the Chiefs...losing Ware and Barry certainly had both sides of the line lacking, but few QB's (loud cough) have gone very far with the #32 defense in the league.

If Mahomes becomes tony Romo I’ll be ****ing ecstatic. Romo was a damn good qb

So 2-5 in the playoffs is disgusting and abysmal, and 2-4 in the playoffs is damn good. . .

It truly is a game of inches.

That is YOUR opinion of what he is worth. People who actually have a clue about NFL player value and get paid to give those players contracts think he is and was worth more. Your dumb ass is the only one who thinks he was overpaid. I'll go with the experts opinions. Not the guy who is always wrong.

ROFL

Like Andy Reid? Who gave Mike Vick a $100 million contract?

Or the Redskins? Who's only accomplishment over the past decade is hilariously overpaying players?

Pull the other one.

Specifically, he wasn't worth it because we could have had him for 7.5 million in 2014 (instead of $19 million), and then after he failed to throw a TD to a WR, negotiated a FAR cheaper deal.

But we didn't. Because Chiefs.

I’d look for a new QB if Pat became Romo. We are trading away Romo for hopefully something better in Pat.

Romo was asked to do a lot more than smith in carrying Jerry disaster of a cowboys team but in terms of playoff wins, there weren’t a lot.

But I also don’t think 7 games and 6 games is much of a sample size nor do I feel from watching both QBs they were similar.

Both QBs are pretty underrated around here

Wait, what?

Maybe we watched a different tony Romo

You really need to temper your expectations.

Tony Romo was 13-3 with 38 total TDs his first full season starting.

ROFL

And Alex threw 26 TD’s and only 5 INT’s this year. I don’t care what his stats are. Romo had top 10 defenses a handful of times and won nothing just like Alex.

The Chiefs can’t afford to pay top dollar for a QB that doesn’t get it done after years of trying and a good defense.

You basically aren't going to be happy unless he's a hall of famer, is the vibe I'm picking up on here.

This isnt what I posted, you dont need to 'fix' anything of mine

We should be expecting a HOF caliber QB in time. We traded 2 first round picks for him, yes? We want to win a SB, right?

We’ve watched a choke artist QB as emphasized specifically the last 2 years. I see that same choke artistry from 2-5 playoff Romo and no playoff win Derek Carr.

The bar is supposed to be set high. We all know this and should expect nothing less.

Matt Cassel was definitely overpaid. He made close to what Smith made, but 5 years sooner, when salaries were a lot lower. He has never received close to that money since, and we had to cut him. Whereas, Smith netted us a very good compensation in trade and was given a lot bigger contract than he was making here. Add to that the fact that he had a winning season every year here and capped it off with league leading stats last year, and I will argue that he was worth every penny.

If you’re expecting a hall of fame guy, man, you’re likely to be disappointed.

Playoff wins and losses aren’t really a stat I’d look at when discussing qb play, too many factors there.

But carry on

That's just great, man.

Maybe you can put ASS11 in your own personal ring of fame.

Years from now you'll remember these golden days.

There I made it right, sorry about that, I didn't give myself proper credit...

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It's too bad Hootie isn't here because just the mention of Romo would have resulted in burst.

Lol. There you go changing what I said. I never said anything about him being so great. I know that the move to draft Mahomes was the best thing for the Chiefs and I'm excited about it. But to say that Smith wasn't worth his middle of the pack salary is a joke. He got paid middle of the pack starter pay for middle of the pack quarterback play. He wasn't a backup. He didn't deserve backup pay, regardless of whether you think his play was worth it or not. He is a 13 year starter in the NFL. 13 year starters don't grow on trees.

Alex Smith was the perfect Chiefs quarterback. He did a reasonable job and lost in the playoffs. That's as Chiefly as you can get.

Patty Ice

:eek:

I'd take Romo for nothing more than his ability to attract hatter cheerleaders to the squad..

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For those who think it’s only the QB, Pat doesn’t need to be a HOF to end the pants shitting January routine.

Revisionist history.

Romo had a top 10 defense in terms of scoring once in nine seasons (20th or worse in five of the nine seasons).

Romo had a top 10 rushing attack twice in nine seasons.

To compare the help that Romo had with the help that Alex had is disingenuous. Romo is one of the more underrated QBs of all time.

I would be perfectly fine with Super Bowl MVP.

Washington got one hell of a fluffer, for sure!

Don't bother. You'll never convince these tards that anyone with a functioning arm and brain couldn't have hopped on the back of this team, and made Lil' Chiefy's Sundays "not suck".

I'm just glad the barnacle has been pried from the hull, and this ship will now be captained by a QB worthy of the position.

And no, no thanks or other groveling compensation will be given to Alex "Thank God Gone" Smith.

Then quit trying to say Alex did anything worth a **** for this team that Kyle ****ing Orton couldn't do.

It's that goddamned simple.

Problem solved!

I am one who believes the Chiefs deserve "Hatter" cheerleaders, fastest way to get a new HC that I know of.ROFLROFLROFLROFL

I can only offer this as an apology gift and an explanation for the error and Romo's mojo..

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Alex was worthless. He's a run of the mill nobody that always lost in the playoffs and way.to many 4th quarters
Nothing amazing about him.

Yes Red Dawg, this take is correct and should be chiseled in to a brick somewhere over in the 'Founders'-area at Arrowhead Stadium.

^TrIGgERed^

^^^^ReTaRRRD!

Spare me your bullshit.

You hitched your tongue squarely on Geno Smith's prolapsed asshole for multiple years and touted him as the answer on this board. So you don't get to call people a tard because they are appreciative of the player winning games over 5 years. You have had some of the worst ****ing takes in the history of this board.

You all make it sound so easy. "Any QB with a functional arm and brain could win". Bullshit.

Or you could just leave again and take your shitbag takes with you.

I'm sorry that Alex Smith triggers you so much. When this team made the playoffs 4 times out of 17 years, 4 playoff seasons in 5 years has some value.

Those 5 years led squarely to the QB that everyone universally loves on this board - and you want to sit here and bitch about Alex Smith.

You're a real ****bag.

Not a pug or jimmy, or Karl noses in the bunch.

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now they need a costume change...

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We're still a laughing stock.

1 playoff win in the last 20-something years. How many one and dones? No Super Bowl berths in almost 50 years.

Ain't a damn thing changed.