Josh McDaniels is scapegoating Derek Carr with Raiders
by*Matt Verderame2 days ago*Follow @MattVerderame

The Las Vegas Raiders are clearly gearing up to trade Derek Carr, but head coach Josh McDaniels should really be the one leaving town.

The Las Vegas Raiders can bench Derek Carr. They can trade Derek Carr this offseason.

But they aren’t solving the problem.

Instead, the problem is the man in Carr’s earpiece on Sundays. The man who a decade ago ran Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall out of Denver, leaving the Broncos in disgrace less than two seasons into his tenure.

The problem is Josh McDaniels, head coach of a 6-9 Raiders team now benching Carr presumably to make sure he’s healthy going into the offseason, therefore avoiding a trigger on future guaranteed money.

While Carr has struggled in his latest offensive system, he’s not the main culprit for a disappointing season in Las Vegas.

That would be McDaniels, who has seen his team blow a 20-0 lead to the Arizona Cardinals, lose a pair of 17-0 advantages against the Jacksonville Jaguars and Kansas City Chiefs, fall after leading 16-3 lead in the final five minutes to the Baker Mayfield-led Los Angeles Rams, and lost at home to Jeff Saturday in his head-coaching debut.

In a related note, Saturday hasn’t won since. McDaniels is the only coach he’s beaten since being pulled out of an ESPN studio and onto the Colts sideline in the middle of the season.

The spin coming out of Las Vegas will be about Carr moving forward. You’ll hear well-placed leaks about why he’s the biggest issue, how he wasn’t absorbing the offense. You’ll hear about why the Raiders must move on from a soon-to-be 32-year-old quarterback, wanting to give McDaniels a long-term running mate.

But that’s all manufactured reality.

The truth is Carr just led the Raiders to a 10-7 record and a playoff berth in unfathomably tough conditions. Conditions which included head coach Jon Gruden resigning in disgrace, and top receiver Henry Ruggs III being released after he killed a woman in a drunk-driving automobile accident.

Less than a year ago, Carr was the gallant football hero who was the leader of a rudderless franchise. Now, he’s the scapegoat for a coach who hasn’t won anything when Tom Brady isn’t by his side.

Looking at his situation, it’s incredible Carr has enjoyed the level of success he’s achieved over the years.

In nine seasons with the Raiders, Carr has played for six head coaches. The rosters around him have varied from competent to contemptible. He’s dealt with rumors of a relocation and then, finally, a move before the 2020 season.

Through it all, Carr has been an unwavering pillar for a franchise hellbent on self-destruction. He made three Pro Bowls, carried the Raiders to a pair of playoff berths, and consistently took the tough questions when others should have.

Now, in a year where the defense has once more been horrific and the coaching has followed suit, it appears the Raiders’ final act with Derek Carr will be to blame and then trade him.

And soon enough, Las Vegas will. The Raiders are going to get offers — one NFL general manager felt a first-round pick attached to a mid-rounder would be an appropriate return — and deal Carr away. Carr should be thrilled, potentially landing on a team housing stability he’s never known.

As for the Raiders?

They’ll have McDaniels, a hole to fill at quarterback and nobody left to take the blame any longer

Agreed.

I walked through it and somehow 7 out of ****ing 8 teams in the South Divisions should be on the horn this afternoon. God the South of both divisions suck.

If the Jags lose today it will guarantee there are TWO teams in the playoffs sub .500.

Best thing about this is that it will accelerate McBugel getting the axe. Not that I trust Mark Davis to make the right decision on the next coach.

He played on a crap team with no defense. Huh, that sounds familiar.

Not gonna lie, it’s wonderful seeing the donkeys and raiders one upping each other to see how far they can drag down the franchise.

This year?

Well, let's see . . .

NE, CLE, IND, NYG, ATL, CAR, NOR, TEN off the top of my head.

Mark's entire plan was Gruden for life.

Franchise is doomed until Mark sells or passes away to the great PF Chang's in the sky.

It's been ridiculously bad, and yet some Raider fans have blamed the losing on Carr. No matter how many games Carr went and got the lead with a couple minutes left to play, only for the D to surrender the lead, it was always Carr's fault for some mental midgets.

RF and BR are having orgies right now.

Shit's getting real now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Derek Carr has unfollowed the <a href="https://twitter.com/Raiders?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Raiders</a> on Instagram &amp; Twitter. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RaiderNation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RaiderNation</a></p>&mdash; Raiders Report Mitchell Renz (@MitchellRenz365) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchellRenz365/status/1608987013352652800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2022</a></blockquote>
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lmaooooo

raiders and broncos in for a long decade

Lol, with the exception of about 3 years with Gannon, it’s been 4 long decades and counting for the Raiders.

So Chiefs win 30-29 against Raiders at Arrowhead in which neither team had any turnovers and the geniuses are already judging Josh McDaniel as a failure because of what happened in Denver a dozen years ago?

And Brandon Marshall did have a mental illness at the time and did better after getting help, but he contributed to that bad situation.

I think Raiders might not find a better QB than Carr, but McDaniels has a chance to be a success.

Did you miss what has transpired for the Raiders since that Chiefs game?

Losing to Jeff Saturday?

Giving up a 98 yard game winning drive to Baker Mayfield who had been with the Rams for 30 seconds?

Raiders also had a what, 20-7 lead going into the 3rd quarter? Something like that. And sure blowing a lead to the electric Chiefs offense is understandable, because it's the Chiefs, but it's another in a quite long list of solid leads the Raiders blew this year. Cardinals, Jaguars, Chiefs, Colts, Rams, Patriots almost(probably should've lost that game too), all blown leads for losses. That's on the coaching.

Tell me, jettio, as I most assuredly must be one of those you incessantly say knows not shit about tackle football as it is played at the NFL level, what is it about Josh McDaniels' body of work as a head coach that makes you believe he has a snowballs chance in hell of being successful?

Is it the 20 point blown lead to Arizona?

Is it the 17 point blown lead to Jacksonville?

Is it the 17 point blown lead to KC with extra cherry on the shit sundae of refusing to kick a PAT for the tie?

Is it losing to Jeff Saturday taking over a dumpster fire Colts team after leaving the ESPN offices 6 days prior?

Is it the 13 point blown lead to Los Angeles, including the meaty turd falling down his leg and landing softly in a bowl of M&Ms of letting BAKER MAYFIELD, who got 24 hours of prep, lead a 98 yard drive with no timeouts in under 2 minutes for a game winning td, something the league has not seen for 4 decades?

Is it his spiral down the shitter from his previous stint with Denver?

Is it being completely unable to match the production of what Rich Bisaccia (a ****ing SPECIAL TEAMS coach, ffs) did with this team last year, without a Davante Adams?

Please, enlighten me, hell, enlighteen us all who know not shit about tackle football as it is played at the NFL level what you see that makes you believe that this piece of shit McDaniels is any different from every other turd dropped from the asshair of Bill Belichick who go on to do Jack and shit without Tom Brady on the sidelines, and tape rolling on the opponent walk through.

As a head coach? What evidence are you basing this on?

Not quite. If Tampa wins out, they win the division at 9-8. But the Souths do both suck.

No road playoff wins since 1980.

It has been dismal.

What in the world would make you think that? Sure youd like to do better than Carr but what has Josh McDaniel ever done aside from riding Bill and Toms coattails to make you think he will be a successful HC.

God, Jettio's takes are as bad as Mark Davis' hair cut.

I'm not sure how anyone could actually defend ole Joshy boy after he led one of the worst Broncos teams in history before he was fired and then he pulled that shit with the Colts and now is going to run the Raiders even further into the dirt.

And that means what?

Raiders are practically eliminated from this year’s playoffs, but the evidence you cite has nothing to do with how much success the Raiders have with McDaniels in future seasons.

Chiefs lost to the same Colts team and Chiefs are likely a top 2 seed in AFC.

Eagles needed a late TD to beat Colts and Eagles are likely #1 seed.

Since Denver he has three Super Bowl rings as the offensive coordinator of the Patriots.

He has made millions of dollars in salary since the Denver job.

I said McDaniels has a chance to be successful with Raiders. All the assholes clapping back say that the only possibility is failure.

My post said the story is yet to be written and could go either way.

All the assholes said God has already decided McDaniels failure as Raiders head coach.

How about all the assholes bet $500 prop bet every year that Raiders have losing season and do not make playoffs?

you really think Josh McDaniels was the reason for the success of the Patriots, and not Belichick or Brady?

We could sit here for the next lifetime and debate the merits of Belichick and Brady being the GOATs, but I never thought anyone would suggest McDaniels was a reason for their accomplishments in NE lol

Remember every other coordinator that coached Brady under Belichick's watch and moved on to other teams and found a lot of success?

Oh right you don't, because that never happened. Every single Patriots coach that has tried to head coach elsewhere has failed miserably.

I said he has three Super Bowl rings since Denver.

The stuff you say I said is not anywhere in any post I made.

the ****ing towel boy in those years has three rings too, who gives a shit

You wrote out a bunch of nonsense arguing against something nobody said.

you sure love playing games, even though I know you got my point and refuse to argue it, don't you

All of the evidence during his tenure in Denver and now with the Raiders indicates that Josh McDaniels is a terrible HC.

Provide evidence… based on his track record as a HC… that McDaniels will have future success with the Raiders.

This should be interesting.

With practically the exact same roster on offense, the Patriots replaced UBERZOMG OFFENSE MASTERMIND Joshy boy with a goddamn defensive coordinator.

The results are basically the same.

McDaniels is a talentless hack

Oh OK I get it. This is one of those "so you're saying there's a chaaaance" moments.

Miss me with that shit. I mean sure, it's possible that a miracle could occur and McDaniels could coach a football team to a result that is not a tragi comic disaster.

However, most people with more than one half of a moving brain cell will check the history of his production, and conclude that it's more likely than not this dude flames out and goes crawling back to New England.

It's like someone saying it's possible that through sheer volume alone, you could potentially post something semi intelligent.

Then we look over your post history, and again realize that shit ain't ****in happening either.

McD may surely suck but he should get coach of the year for finally getting rid of the $30 + million a year mediocre pussy boy.

Oh, and Happy New Year!!

I really don’t think Carr compares favorably with Rich Gannon. They have similar statistics but Gannon gave you rushing yards, won playoff games, had “it” a bit more. Their passing statistics are remarkably similar though.

Basically, system QBs who become journeymen that you settle for, not build franchises around.

He got rid of Cutler before his first season in Denver.
As I understand it. Kyle the O Orton was part of that trade

It was Kyle Orton, but two first round picks and change as well.

Good ol bottle of JD & hanging cig Orton. He wanted no part of Pioli after McNugget. Respect

Wipe your ass all by yourself.

Why would I argue when both sides are from you?

I'd take Derek Carr over Alex Smith. Hell if we'd have drafted Carr, then there's a decent chance we could have won the SB in 2015 or 2016. Our D those 2 years was really good.

You’re comparing RC to Shasta there

Dude blew a first round pick on Tim ****ing Tebow. That alone should disqualify him from forever being in charge of anything at the NFL level.

bet that retort sounded better in your head

He destroyed that Denver franchise and he'll destroy the Raiders. Carr might be on that Russ level of "differn't type a dude" but he is one of the few positives in LV. I guess what I'm saying is that they have problems but Carr isn't really their big one. He's been one of their few positives.

That is true......however if one looks at all his other draft picks several became part of their 13 win seasons and Super Bowl. Funny how a single draft pick defines someone. On a side note, Tebow has won more playoff games than Derek Carr.

I have no dog in this hunt whether Josh is good or bad but haven't poor coaches been redeemed in 2nd or 3rd chances before? Didnt Belichick get fired a few times? Again, JD may well be crap but is it fair to judge in one season while Carrdashians think 9 years isn't quite enough?

Finally, J Mc isnt the GM. I think Ziegler wears the big boy pants at Vegas......Time will tell

That was Elway.

Do what now? The only person on the SB team for those shit stick Donks that McDaniel drafted was Demaryius Thomas. He was actually the only player worth a damn that McDaniel's was responsible for drafting.

Which one of these shit sticks helped win a SB for Denver other than Thomas?

Knowshon Moreno - Trash
Robert Ayers - Trash
Alphon Smith - Trash
Darcel McBath - Trash
Richard Quinn - Trash
David Bruton - Trash
Seth Olsen - Trash
Kenny McKinley - Trash
Tom Brandstater - Trash
Blake Schlueter - Trash

Demaryius Thomas - Good
Tim Tebow - Trash
Zane Beadles - One decent year
J.D. Walton - Trash
Eric Decker - Trash
Perrish Cox - Trash
Eric Olsen - Trash
Syd'Quan Thompson - Trash
Jammie Kirlew - Trash

He also traded away his young QBOTF, Jay Cutler, after Cutler just had a 4500+ yd 25 TD season. All so he could bring over Kyle Orton and start him.

The dudes a ****ing tard like all of the other Belichick coaching idiots.

I agree. I really think Carr is a guy you can win with if you give him something, especially a defense.

He's not always perfect, but he can also be really good at times. I really hope he doesn't end up in Indy, honestly. That's a team that would be pretty damned decent with a QB worth a shit at all. Ryan isn't complete garbage but he doesn't move the needle much at this point in his career.

I would argue much the same that I hope he doesn't end up in New England. Bill can win with Carr, no doubt in my mind.

Much rather he ends up in Carolina, New Orleans, Washington, or Seattle.

Carr is more hot and cold than Billay’s sexual preference. He’s not consistent enough to be a top 10 QB and QB play is what wins games.

Please reply to my prior inquiry.

Well, I recant my previous proclamation. I was frustrated with how the franchise handled the situation.

But many Raiders fans were hoping Carr would get hurt or the team would lose out in 2021 and this year.

Fan police are always distasteful.

A lot of Chiefs fans were praying for complete failure during the Herm and Pioli abortions.

The difference is we finally came into the light. You poor bastards just keep getting strung along and shit on for all the misery you endure.

We cheered when Cassel went down because that was the ONLY way to get him off the field.

We didn't hate Cassel, we hated the dumb mother ****ers that kept putting him out there.

David Carr just went off on the Raiders. Hilarious

Because we don’t need more Faders fans robbing elderly people to pay their debts off?

You think that’s bad?? You should check out what some dumbass posted about a game we won!!

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=346781

isn't that more of a Chiefs fan thing

Chiefs Superfans gotta feed their illegitimate kids somehow.

Link??

Those are banks. I said the elderly! :toast:ROFL

David thought Derek was the perennial MVP who tf cares what he says

David Carr just successfully eroded most support for Derek.

Who is worse? Jackson or the Carr brothers?

Sophie's Choice

David is a helicopter brother. Definitely won't miss his bad takes on things.

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Well, Stidham today definitely didn't hurt Carr's trade value.

Which is good for the franchise.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Of course, I refuse to watch the Raiders anymore, but my algorithms indicated that Stidham would throw a remarkably idiotic INT at about 4:59PM EST, so by now you’ve all seen it. Derek carried this team. They are nothing without him. Stidham is a disgrace.</p>&mdash; NFL Data Analyst | Harrison P. Kent IV (@harrisonpkent) <a href="https://twitter.com/harrisonpkent/status/1611846846216822789?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Poor Carr he gets passed by Mahomes for all time wins

64-16 to 63-79

At least he’s still tied with Kelce for career playoff passing TD’s.

David Carr just wrote your name in his black notebook

fleeced 'em

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl7TVGPW...name=4096x4096

No, we rob banks. Get it right, damnit!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The new <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> regime knew early on that Derek Carr isn&#39;t it, according to <a href="https://twitter.com/reviewjournal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@reviewjournal</a><br><br>&quot;The Raiders concluded Carr was not a long-term fit within weeks of the start of the season.&quot;<a href="https://t.co/cc01m8o2zz">https://t.co/cc01m8o2zz</a> <a href="https://t.co/jfL4fhhJ9N">pic.twitter.com/jfL4fhhJ9N</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1612094649102991361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The guy got worse every year. He should of quit listening to his brother on how to QB.

Dude probably made that same face on the brunette later

Someone will make him their starter...lotta bad QB's.

Getting out of the dysfunctional Raiders organization will probably help. I could see NYJ, ATL, Tampa, Colts, or Commies being landing places.