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htismaqe 01-02-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9270066)
So the rationalizing of Pioli staying is beginning to start.

Again, what else can we do?

He's still here. We either rationalize it or we stop being fans.

Or we could choose the 3rd option and just whine about it incessantly.

BigRedChief 01-02-2013 05:57 PM

Got an email from my radio guy:

He says Pioli will be in all interviews. He is in Philly with the Reid interview. Clark's reason is to gauge how much they would be on the same page and the chemistry.

BTW, the interview went way over the scheduled time. they were scheduled to break for lunch and just had it brought to them and kept talking.

No word on the outcome.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270074)
Here in KC?

You're just not getting it.

I'm not sure how to explain it any further.

SAUTO 01-02-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9270013)
How did the interview with Ferentz go? I hear that was today.

He showed up in kc and no one was there...
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siberian khatru 01-02-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9270077)
Got an email from my radio guy:

He says Pioli will be in all interviews. He is in Philly with the Reid interview. Clark's reason is to gauge how much they would be on the same page and the chemistry.

BTW, the interview went way over the scheduled time. they were scheduled to break for lunch and just had it brought to them and kept talking.

No word on the outcome.

Well, Scott and Andy must've really hit it off!

Messier 01-02-2013 05:58 PM

If Pioli's job is to listen to the coach, listen to Hunt, and do what they want? I don't have a problem with him being here.

Mother****erJones 01-02-2013 05:58 PM

This is a great sign for a 9 hr interview

O.city 01-02-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270076)
Again, what else can we do?

He's still here. We either rationalize it or we stop being fans.

Or we could choose the 3rd option and just whine about it incessantly.

So which are you doing?

Messier 01-02-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9270082)
Well, Scott and Andy must've really hit it off!

I actually hear that they are good friends.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270076)
Again, what else can we do?

He's still here. We either rationalize it or we stop being fans.

Or we could choose the 3rd option and just whine about it incessantly.

There's nothing to rationalize until Clark hires a HC and then Pioli is still around.

It took Pioli three weeks to fire Herm. No reason to think it couldn't take that long this time, especially considering the financial/legal oblligations.

the Talking Can 01-02-2013 05:59 PM

it is entirely plausible that clark thinks he can keep pioli under a revised structure...

he was so out of touch with his own organization that he gave pioli an extension...he sure as hell could be so out of touch with the fanbase that he thinks we're kidding about pioli...


that said, i chose to believe this is about legal wrangling and scott will be gone soon

* but damn hearing he was involved in the reid interview is depressing

jlw62987 01-02-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9270077)
Got an email from my radio guy:

He says Pioli will be in all interviews. He is in Philly with the Reid interview. Clark's reason is to gauge how much they would be on the same page and the chemistry.

BTW, the interview went way over the scheduled time. they were scheduled to break for lunch and just had it brought to them and kept talking.

No word on the outcome.

Screw that. Why even mess around with Pioli? Just fire the prick!

The Franchise 01-02-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270087)
So which are you doing?

Option #4. Not giving a **** until something happens for me to react to.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 06:00 PM

Here's the thing. Johnny Kane's last tweet said Clark was seen in the airport and he claimed the interview was still going. What does that mean to you?

SAUTO 01-02-2013 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9270042)
Why did Mass wait till Howard reported this? Just Piggybacking off Howard.

This is why I say you are a stupid bitch.
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O.city 01-02-2013 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270080)
You're just not getting it.

I'm not sure how to explain it any further.

He said he would be ok keeping scott on to be the GM and main scout.


I asked what in his history of drafting players here in KC show that he knows how to scout?

htismaqe 01-02-2013 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9270084)
If Pioli's job is to listen to the coach, listen to Hunt, and do what they want? I don't have a problem with him being here.

I'm not sure why anybody would.

The reason everybody hates him is because he was so thoroughly hands-on with every aspect.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-02-2013 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9270081)
He showed up in kc and no one was there...
Posted via Mobile Device

Ferentz brought the food. Was a bit dissappointed in the tip my sources claim.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9270077)
Got an email from my radio guy:

He says Pioli will be in all interviews. He is in Philly with the Reid interview. Clark's reason is to gauge how much they would be on the same page and the chemistry.

BTW, the interview went way over the scheduled time. they were scheduled to break for lunch and just had it brought to them and kept talking.

No word on the outcome.

Well, it doesn't go shitty when you blow through your scheduled time, take a working lunch and go another few hours.

siberian khatru 01-02-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9270098)
Ferentz brought the food. Was a bit dissappointed in the tip my sources claim.

ROFL

The Franchise 01-02-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270094)
Here's the thing. Johnny Kane's last tweet said Clark was seen in the airport and he claimed the interview was still going. What does that mean to you?

Clark: Donovan.....make this man the next head coach. Work it out. Reid....I'll see you in KC.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270087)
So which are you doing?

I'm waiting to see what actually happens before I make a final decision.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9270077)
Got an email from my radio guy:

He says Pioli will be in all interviews. He is in Philly with the Reid interview. Clark's reason is to gauge how much they would be on the same page and the chemistry.

BTW, the interview went way over the scheduled time. they were scheduled to break for lunch and just had it brought to them and kept talking.

No word on the outcome.

I'm hearing the same thing on the chemistry part of things. I've got a guy in my ear right now.

ChiefMojo 01-02-2013 06:01 PM

In New England, Pioli had no power. He did what Belichick wanted personnel wise and Belichick made the decisions on all matters.

In KC, Pioli had all power and made all the decisions. Now as of this moment he does not since Clark stripped them. Any new HC that will come in will make the final decision on personnel like Belichick did in New England. Thus if Pioli is still here, he is doing the exact same powerless role he did in New England.

O.city 01-02-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270089)
There's nothing to rationalize until Clark hires a HC and then Pioli is still around.

It took Pioli three weeks to fire Herm. No reason to think it couldn't take that long this time, especially considering the financial/legal oblligations.

Wouldn't that limit our options at GM?

jlw62987 01-02-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270094)
Here's the thing. Johnny Kane's last tweet said Clark was seen in the airport and he claimed the interview was still going. What does that mean to you?

Means he left Pioli there to do the contract with Andy Reid. Reid will be the next HC of the KC Chiefs and Pioli will remain.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9270095)
This is why I say you are a stupid bitch.
Posted via Mobile Device

Dude i don't really care what you think.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9270092)
Option #4. Not giving a **** until something happens for me to react to.

Sounds good.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270094)
Here's the thing. Johnny Kane's last tweet said Clark was seen in the airport and he claimed the interview was still going. What does that mean to you?

It means Mark Donovan is ironing out a deal, IMO.

Not sure who the **** Johnny Kane is, or how reliable he is.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270108)
Wouldn't that limit our options at GM?

Of course it would. But it is what it is.

zman0306 01-02-2013 06:02 PM

Report:Chiefs meet with Andy Reid for 9 hours, GM Pioli involved.
 
ArrowheadPride.com reports:Chiefs meet with Andy Reid for 9 hours, GM Pioli involved.

O.city 01-02-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270097)
I'm not sure why anybody would.

The reason everybody hates him is because he was so thoroughly hands-on with every aspect.

The reason I hate him is the working environment he created.

mnchiefsguy 01-02-2013 06:02 PM

A 9 hour meeting means Reid is interested in the job. If he was just using the Chiefs to drive up his price with Arizona...a two or three hour meeting accomplishes that. I do not see Reid sitting with Clark for 9 hours if he was not genuinely interested in the job. This is a good thing, given that it goes against the line of thinking that "no one would ever be interested in coaching KC" argument.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9270105)
In New England, Pioli had no power. He did what Belichick wanted personnel wise and Belichick made the decisions on all matters.

In KC, Pioli had all power and made all the decisions. Now as of this moment he does not since Clark stripped them. Any new HC that will come in will make the final decision on personnel like Belichick did in New England. Thus if Pioli is still here, he is doing the exact same powerless role he did in New England.

This.

The Franchise 01-02-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270108)
Wouldn't that limit our options at GM?

Not necessarly. Think maybe Reid has an idea of who he wants at GM?

ChiefMojo 01-02-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9270094)
Here's the thing. Johnny Kane's last tweet said Clark was seen in the airport and he claimed the interview was still going. What does that mean to you?

Could mean to me that the business people were hammering out contract/legal details... things that didn't need Hunt's attention at that moment.

SAUTO 01-02-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9270098)
Ferentz brought the food. Was a bit dissappointed in the tip my sources claim.

Scott's tip was in Philly I've heard
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htismaqe 01-02-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270116)
The reason I hate him is the working environment he created.

Well, it's no longer his environment to create so that part of it is over.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 01-02-2013 06:03 PM

It's all a chemistry test and gauge

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9270095)
This is why I say you are a stupid bitch.
Posted via Mobile Device

Someone could tell you the sky was falling and you would believe them.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270113)
It means Mark Donovan is ironing out a deal, IMO.

Not sure who the **** Johnny Kane is, or how reliable he is.

Isn't he a character in Mortal Kombat.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270108)
Wouldn't that limit our options at GM?

It's been reported that Reid already has his staff together.

It wouldn't shock me in the least if Reid was hired, Reid then hires Heckert - for sake of conversation - and Pioli is kept on staff with no responsibility until Clark comes to a favorable result with the buyout.

siberian khatru 01-02-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 9270117)
A 9 hour meeting means Reid is interested in the job. If he was just using the Chiefs to drive up his price with Arizona...a two or three hour meeting accomplishes that. I do not see Reid sitting with Clark for 9 hours if he was not genuinely interested in the job. This is a good thing, given that it goes against the line of thinking that "no one would ever be interested in coaching KC" argument.

That's exactly what they want the Cardinals to think. :evil:

dirk digler 01-02-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270076)
Again, what else can we do?

He's still here. We either rationalize it or we stop being fans.

Or we could choose the 3rd option and just whine about it incessantly.

I like option 3 :)

BigRedChief 01-02-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270099)
Well, it doesn't go shitty when you blow through your scheduled time, take a working lunch and go another few hours.

The radio guy said he was getting this info from another radio guy he use to work with. The radio guy in Philly was someone close to Andy Reid for over 10 years.

The Franchise 01-02-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270128)
It's been reported that Reid already has his staff together.

It wouldn't shock me in the least if Reid was hired, Reid then hires Heckert - for sake of conversation - and Pioli is kept on staff with no responsibility until Clark comes to a favorable result with the buyout.

This.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9270092)
Option #4. Not giving a **** until something happens for me to react to.

Bingo.

SAUTO 01-02-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9270110)
Dude i don't really care what you think.

Yet you reply because you are a little bitch
Posted via Mobile Device

htismaqe 01-02-2013 06:05 PM

Anyway, as much as I love this discussion, I gotta go lick a chick's ass, so I'm out.

Bis morgen, guys.

O.city 01-02-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270123)
Well, it's no longer his environment to create so that part of it is over.

Meh, he's still here.


I don't want the guy around the Chiefs organization at all.

jd1020 01-02-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270128)
It's been reported that Reid already has his staff together.

It wouldn't shock me in the least if Reid was hired, Reid then hires Heckert - for sake of conversation - and Pioli is kept on staff with no responsibility until Clark comes to a favorable result with the buyout.

Wasn't Heckert doing solo interviews? Didn't I read something about him with the Raiders? Seems weird he would do that if he was going with Reid somewhere.

mcaj22 01-02-2013 06:05 PM

i just spent 4 months watching this place bash Pioli every day

and now you guys are defending him

this place... lol

Pasta Little Brioni 01-02-2013 06:05 PM

ROFL Good thing Zona has the great Todd Haley as a fallback option

Strongside 01-02-2013 06:05 PM

The Weather Channel just heard about Pioli possibly being retained...

http://i.imgur.com/WcsVL.jpg

htismaqe 01-02-2013 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270138)
Meh, he's still here.


I don't want the guy around the Chiefs organization at all.

I don't either but he is and I have no control over it, so not sure what to do other than wait and hope.

The alternative is for me to completely cut ties and I'm not ready to do that yet.

SAUTO 01-02-2013 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9270125)
Someone could tell you the sky was falling and you would believe them.

Lol. You haven't paid much attention the past couple days.

Now get back to shutting the **** up
Posted via Mobile Device

Pasta Little Brioni 01-02-2013 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9270140)
i just spent 4 months watching this place bash Pioli every day

and now you guys are defending him

this place... lol

He can't harm us anymore. Clark turned him into a Eunuch. He's done here.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 06:06 PM

KC Pioli would **** up a moist dream.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9270140)
and now you guys are defending him

Of course, that's not what is happening at all.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9270135)
Yet you reply because you are a little bitch
Posted via Mobile Device

Let's see you don't trust Well-respected NFL reporters, But you trust Mass that is never right that makes sense.

O.city 01-02-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270143)
I don't either but he is and I have no control over it, so not sure what to do other than wait and hope.

The alternative is for me to completely cut ties and I'm not ready to do that yet.

I thought thats what you were gonna do in the situation he stays?

The Franchise 01-02-2013 06:07 PM

Only on CP. If you're not ranting like a reeruned 6 year old.....you're defending Pioli.

O.city 01-02-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9270145)
He can't harm us anymore. Clark turned him into a Eunuch. He's done here.

Yet he's taking him to all his interviews of these coaches?

The Franchise 01-02-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270149)
I thought thats what you were gonna do in the situation he stays?

Do you ****ing read and comprehend posts? JFC.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9270139)
Wasn't Heckert doing solo interviews? Didn't I read something about him with the Raiders? Seems weird he would do that if he was going with Reid somewhere.

I guess you missed the part where I used Heckert's name for sake of conversation.

It could be anyone. It's been widely reported that Reid has a staff put together and has told them a decision will likely come this week.

****, he may decide HE wants to be the GM.

SAUTO 01-02-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9270148)
Let's see you don't trust Well-respected NFL reporters, But you trust Mass that is never right that makes sense.

I don't fully trust any of it.

I also don't see why you would talk shit every time someone else posts something.

Oh yes I do...

It's because you are a whiny bitch
Posted via Mobile Device

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2013 06:08 PM

Gonna be a real dick punch if Reid ends up going to Arizona.

Marcellus 01-02-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9270140)
i just spent 4 months watching this place bash Pioli every day

and now you guys are defending him

this place... lol

Damn you have reading comprehension issues dont you. (Notice there is not a ? at the end of this statement)

jd1020 01-02-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270153)
I guess you missed the part where I used Heckert's name for sake of conversation.

It could be anyone. It's been widely reported that Reid has a staff put together and has told them a decision will likely come this week.

It could also be Pioli, since it seems they have a good relationship.

Strongside 01-02-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9270156)
Gonna be a real dick punch if Reid ends up going to Arizona.

Hahaha, maybe I should have made it 'Dickpunch watch'...

http://i.imgur.com/WcsVL.jpg

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270143)
I don't either but he is and I have no control over it, so not sure what to do other than wait and hope.

The alternative is for me to completely cut ties and I'm not ready to do that yet.

There's no reason to cut ties yet.

Nothing has happened.

RunKC 01-02-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 9270124)
It's all a chemistry test and gauge

That means we're ****ed then right?

Nobody in the league likes Pioli. The Lions GM hates him, Fisher left an interview early because of him and Manning wouldn't even call us because of him.

Hopefully his ties with Mark Donovan convince him we are the best fit.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 01-02-2013 06:09 PM

Hunt left the team for Pioli to run. Reid could ask questions Clark may have no clue about. Scott WAS in control

O.city 01-02-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9270152)
Do you ****ing read and comprehend posts? JFC.

Parker has talked all year that he's gonna be gone if Pioli stays, now he says he sint' ready to do that yet.


I'm wondering what changed?

mcaj22 01-02-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270147)
Of course, that's not what is happening at all.

you are trying to rationale it being okay with him still being around in 2013

Yo, I get it. It's fine Pioli is here now because it's like January 2nd, the Chiefs were awful and are done this season for actual NFL football, so there is like a lull in Pioli's job where he cant do much but follow Clark around on interviews.

You are okay with that.

Come February and March if Scooter Pioli is still around and he's franchising Dustin Colquitt, letting Bowe and Albert walk and signing Wes Welker at 7 million per Stanford Routt style, are you going to be okay then?

What about in April/May for the Combine and Draft? You trust this idiot being in the war room even having a MOUTH to pitch in an opinion on any kind of draft board.

I want none of that, and I am 100 percent sick of the last 4 years, it's all thanks to him. He is awful at all of this, and that is being the General Manager.

The fact that you think he is going to lose all this power, is laughable. If he is here he will still be losing us players, signing crap and drafting crap. The Scooter Pioli way

The Franchise 01-02-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9270163)
There's no reason to cut ties yet.

Nothing has happened.

Like it's been said before.

If we hire Reid......and February passes with Pioli not being let go.....I'll make my decision.

The Franchise 01-02-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9270167)
Parker has talked all year that he's gonna be gone if Pioli stays, now he says he sint' ready to do that yet.


I'm wondering what changed?

IT'S BEEN TWO ****ING DAYS.

That's what hasn't changed.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 01-02-2013 06:10 PM

@SaveOurChiefs: Three sources have told us that Pioli's presence is to gauge and test possible chemistry. Clark and Donovan are leading the int. (cont)

@SaveOurChiefs: (Cont)...meeting ran well past scheduled time and was considered positive. As frustrating as it is, Clark is doing things his way on this.

Strongside 01-02-2013 06:10 PM

MAYBE Clark brought Pioli along because he didn't trust him enough to leave him at Arrowhead alone. He's handcuffed Pioli to a suitcase bomb, I just know it.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9270143)
I don't either but he is and I have no control over it, so not sure what to do other than wait and hope.

The alternative is for me to completely cut ties and I'm not ready to do that yet.

Is there any condition in your fanhood that allows Pioli to be employed by the Chiefs next season?


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