You must not want a team that can finish ahead of Mizzou in the Big XII because you've never had that. Not once.

Not everybody is content to live in the (propped-up-by-bullshit) past, or live for basketball season, you stupid ****.

Jesus.

Yea, it would be nice to add that one in too.

I'm actually enjoying the progress the football team is making following a tumultuous end to the last regime.

Part of building a program that reaches a level above what it has ever been before is part of the fun.

For me basketball is enjoyable as well, but I don't "live for it".

What progress is that?

LMAO

What progress would that be? Losing to a team you beat last year by six touchdowns?

I'll bet if you swam down to the bottom of the ocean, you could refloat the Titanic with some duct tape and a bottle of compressed air.

I don't want Missouri to go. I like have them in the conference. I don't like MU, but I like having them in the conference. I don't think MU is replaceable, but I don't think that they are irreplaceable.

I think MU gives up way too much for this idea that another conference will be more "stable" for them in the future. If this threat is simply a means that help ensures the Big XII becomes a more stable conference, then good for them.

But, I don't think a move to the SEC is going to do them many favors. Sure, Arkansas has a solid program, but being in the SEC hasn't really done much for them on the national scale. Have you ever listened to radio talk shows based in the SEC? They barely like to acknowledge them as it is, many of them have voiced the opinion that wouldn't care if they leave.

In the Big XII, at least, you're in the upper tier. You have standing. There, I'm afraid they are going to look on you as the reasoning to avoid an unbalanced schedule. An excuse to grab some market share. I think you're recruiting will take a hit as well.

Of course, these are all my opinions, I know many of you think there is nothing but blue skies ahead down south, but I truly believe the "security" won't be worth it in the long run of things.

Their signature win last year was against a team with a losing record. Their signature win this year will be against a non-BCS school. Of course, it will be their only win against Division 1A opponents as well.

A win in the final seconds at home. But at least there have not been any coaches talking shit about the atmosphere in Lawrence and how much more intense it is in Cedar Rapids.

TCU's average football attendance for the 2010 season was 42466

Who that?

I'd tread lightly with the MAC... I mean seriously, it's the only conference your coach has ever won.

Oh wait....same as the only conference my coach has ever won either.

You are the insult master.

Your favorite player on the team wouldn't even be allowed to call you after 9:00 PM tonight for a sup dog.

:LOL: Ouch, that is going to leave a mark.

They have been steadily improving for a while now, maybe since Gary Pinkel became the HC?

There's no doubt KU's football program will have to measure its improvement incrementally. We have many obstacles to overcome, most notably on the defensive line. KU is a place where you have to develop players who did not have the measurables when they first got out of college, and that will take time. We don't have the type of program that can attract those ready to play type kids. I hope they have the patience to develop their program like Mizzou did, although we won't have the benefit of divisional play. In his first four years, Pinkel only had one season above 5 wins (and remember, 4 were non-cons at that time). Complicating matters even more is that I think the Big XII is in the midst of some of its strongest members as a whole.

So, yeah, beating NIU is a step forward, considering we lost to North Dakota St and Southern Miss last year. Our offensive attack looks much improved but the defense is woeful. I was hoping to reduce the number of blowouts this year, but I don't know if that's a reality. Texas Tech should help tell us a lot on how much improvement is realistic.

It took 5 years for Gary Pinkel to win a bowl game at Missouri.

He has definitely improved the program, but it always takes time in college football.

I'm curious how much exposure to SEC sports radio you've had considering you live in California. I live in Nashville and can assure you the two main sports stations here talk as much about Arkansas as any non-Vandy or UT team in the SEC. The Bama-Arkansas game was the main college topic last week outside of realignment.

Has Webb won the Heisman yet?

Did someone claim he would?

Pinkel left the MAC to coach a better team. Gill left the MAC to coach a team that couldn't win the MAC.

Dude was 3-5 at Buffalo, and that was the best. Coach you could get. He had a winning percentage of .400 in the MAC, and its .333 with KU. He'll likely finish this season with a career record of 5-19 at KU. History totally awaits, though.

Finebaum has a national radio show I listen to on Sirius and Rivals Radio has Bill King, as well. From the callers to those shows to the inflections they give about Arkansas and its place in the SEC leads me to believe they regard Arkansas as an outlier more than any other school in the SEC.

Agree, not every coach can be a Bill Snyder. I hope that man lives to be a 100.

Yea, our stadium prior to expansion only held 44k. TCU is a small school and without a good schedule to draw in outsiders then we can't sell out. If every living alumni from TCU went to every game, we still can't sell out the stadium.

This year our attendance is going to be shit. I was going to buy season tickets until the Boise game was taken away from us and I know at least a half dozen of my friends were the same way. The next 2 seasons, we have decent home schedules so I guarantee that our attendance will improve (with that being said our stadium after renovation is only going to hold 48k.)

OK I will grant you Finebaum but he seems to be a complete Bama homer that everyone else hates. I've only listened to him 2 or 3 times and found him fairly annoying.

Doesn't change it. Sorry. For having such shitty results lately you sure like to talk a lot of shit.

2009 Texas Bowl LOSS to Navy 13-35
2010 Insight Bowl LOSS to Iowa 24-27 (with most of Iowa team suspended)

Gary Pinkel = 1 MAC Championship (59 years old)

Turner Gill = 1 MAC Championship (49 years old)

Holy shit, Gary Pinkel does not look like a 60 year old.

Bill Snyder is probably the best football coach at any level in the past 25 years. He's playing chess when everyone else is playing checkers.

Cool.

Handful of teams have won 40 games over the span of the past 4 years. Even so nobody is satisfied and we haven't peaked.

But hey...you got a dramatic win against NIU so there is that.

Wickedson suggested it after the big NIU win.

Wait...what?

Yeah - that Belichick guy's nothing compared to Bill Snyder.

I think Snyder's a heck of a coach and probably one of the top 20 guys in the FBS, but that right there is a textbook example of overplaying the hell out of your hand.

Snyder is top 10.

IIRC it was a conditional statement. Not that I would expect you to grasp such a nuance, but, dang, you really attached yourself to it like a leach, didn't you?

Wickedson always brings out the best in people.

To even suggest Webb and the Heisman in the same sentence is absurd but please continue to be a miserable prick. You are a KU fan after all.

It was pretty fun.

Getting weird right?

We all understood it. It isn't less silly.

You got trolled by Wicked, brah. LMAO

Not my fault he stings you so good.

That's the thing dude wasn't trolling.

Hey Wickedson:

Gary Pinkel won the MAC at a younger age than Turner Gill.

He's just a much better troll than you.

Top 20 in FBS? What the hell are you talking about? I'm talking about coaching, not getting hand-picked 5-star players because someone coaches at LSU or Florida or Texas or Oklahoma. He's made his mark with less than stellar players and knows how to game plan. He also adjusts incredibly well during games. BTW, I'm a KU fan and not a K-State homer.

Old Ballz has a way about him. Listening to him on his radio show, you just can't help but like the guy.

Hardly.

JFC

This post......is a lost cause.

He did.

And yes, as of right now Gary Pinkel has shown to be a far better football coach than Turner Gill.

I just don't get why no one wants to give the guy a chance. It's really strange to me.

Remember when Iowa State got choose for a better Bowl game than Mizzou a few years ago even though Missouri had the better record? Mizzou is so well respected and irreplaceable.

Remember when Iowa St....


....sorry I drew a blank. An absolute blank.

what have you seen that indicates he deserves a chance?


Turner Gill isn't half the coach that Mangino was/is, in every sense.

Was undefeated this year?

There is one good thing I can say about Moo U., VEISHA used to be fun as hell.

Wow, I would have said like 45.

lol.

Here it is. The first ever NCAA 3-0 trophy.

http://hodgesbadge.files.wordpress.c...rubymarble.jpg

ALMOST beat Florida State in a bowl game, when Seneca Wallace was the QB?

That was the high point of the Dan McCarney era. Almost beating FSU on a play that MIGHT have been a touchdown.

And the Dan McCarney era is the height of Iowa State football.

I feel a little for ISU fans, though. I've always had good dealings with them, and they're completely screwed on this deal.

He was a good coach to have. Brought ISU up a little. But Rhoads is the guy to take ISU to the next level. Its just too bad we passed on him the first time around and hired Chiz instead.

That wasn't a bowl game, it was at Arrowhead.

That might have been the season opener.

I would take Gary Pinkel in a cage match against every coach in the Big 12.

Except Bob Stoops. He'd find a way to cheat and have someone slip him brass knuckles or something.

Where is the corn?

LMAO

Does anyone have the audio of the OSU fans chanting "Big 12" over the ABC broadcast last saturday at the aTm field?

Heard its pretty hilarious

some good twittering going on...

@ChipBrownOB
A&M AD Bill Byrne to #SEC commish Mike Slive: "When you face the Aggies, you better tape your ankles. Because we intend to win."


@KUTheShiver
A&M brings a crapton of fans and money - and they present no threat to our football powerhouse programs. #whattheSECreallywantstosay

The girl that nobody even considered inviting to the dance is making fun of the prom queen's dress. How cute.

Looks like Louisville is going to be the one to replace A&M.

We'll never know.

At least I don't have boosters out claiming invites to conferences when in fact no one ever wanted a team thats never won shit.

nighty night :thumb:

Great pick up.

I certainly hope this one pans out.

About time we got another bball power in here.

Their BCS win doesn't hurt either. :)

You're such a cute little KUnt when you get all butthurt. LMAO

LMAO You're such a tool.

Hurt?

I love the idea of adding Louisville to this conference.

They've accomplished so much more than so many schools in the Big12.

BTW, I think it's official - this thread definitely has AIDS.

Wickedson is the carrier.

If Mizzou stays in the Big XII, it's because we chose to (because we're idiots). The invite is there.

KU doesn't go to a lot of bowl games.

But when they do they win them, they don't embarrass the conference by losing to Navy.

The conference was so proud of your loss to North Dakota State.

For someone who isn't a fan of MU, he's begging for another dose of it.

Navy's got a good team, douche. I don't think they'd lose by 42 points to Georgia Tech.

I just read that Texas A&M hasn't beaten an SEC team in 16 years.

Can that be true?

ok.