I don't think so. Was there an answer for GSP? Fedor in his prime? Barring a Sierra type lucky punch I think we are about to see long dominating run in the LHW divsion for Jones. It's not a "new generation" type thing as much as it's just a guy that is a superior talent then everyone else. Who is going to beat him on the scene now? Rashad? Rampage? Machida? Nobody right now I see.

The dude is 23 years old and only been in sport for 3 years. It's scary that he is just now scratching the surface of his ability.

I'm with you 100%. I mean sooner or later he'll get beat by just getting caught or leaving himself open. With that said, he'll avenge any loss. Right now there's no one who's going to beat him twice, and it will take a little luck to even beat him once. He's a bad dude!

where can I watch that fight?

Did Jones win by TKO or Decision?

TKO - he dominated

LMAO

LMAO

And he still has a lot of question marks.

What happens when he gets rocked? When someone can take him down and hold him?

See I never buy into fighter hype because until a guy has faced a lot of different situations, he has question marks. It's like everyone riding Lesnar's nuts when I kept asking the same thing. What happens when he gets tagged? Everyone said it didn't matter. But it did. Turned out, he couldn't take a punch without turtling up like a pussy.

Jones is the flavor of the week. I'm not saying he couldn't end up being a great champ, but he's got a lot of things he still needs to show before people can start hailing him as so be all end all. The only guy he's beaten thus far, is Shogun. Nice start. Now he has a target on him and let's see how he responds.

Every once in a while even a blind squirrel will find a nut.

What I have figured out about you, is you just jump on the crotch of every up and comer there is. You're a raging n00b homo.

he is a mizzou football fan


and a ku bball fan


what the **** do you expect?

You can just replace Jones name with Lesnar's from a year ago.

Like I said, let the guy win against some adversity first. Once Lesnar got tagged, he got exposed. Someone will eventually find a whole in Jones game and exploit it. Then we'll find out how good he really is.

But that's what makes him so good. He doesn't get hit and it would be damn tought to do so. I might be forgetting a time, but when was the last time GSP was actually in trouble in a fight and was tested? Seems like it's been awhile. Avoiding punishment is a big part of the game.

Jones has proven to be much better in all aspects of the game then Lesnar did.

I don't disagree that Jones is about a bazillion more times talented than Lesnar, my point is let him face some adversity in the ring. If he wins like 9 fights in a row and is never in trouble, then that is in fact facing adversity in and of itself.

But the boy hasn't been tested through and through yet. AS I noted, someone will find a weakness and exploit it, and the true test of a champ is coming back from that.

GSP has a bit of a suspect chin.

Silva can't deal with with good wrestlers.

Lesnar couldn't take a punch without turning into worlds biggest pussay.

Chuck Liddell turned out to have a suspect chin as well (rampage found it first)

EVery fighter has a weakness. Jones is young and hasn't fought a ton. Lots of ability but like every fighter walking the planet, he has a weakness and someone will find it. Thats why I don't jump on these bangwagons. I wait to see if a guy can hack it after he's been through the grinder a bit.

I remember reading an article after Silva KO'ed Belfort about Silva's current streak. It was comparing him to GSP. The article said that GSP hasn't lost a round since the Serra loss.

I don't know that I agree with that.

Probably someones opinion.
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Looking back at those fights that actually sounds right which is amazing considering most of those were 5 rounds.

I've watched 3 or 4 of these UFC fight nights now and I gotta say this shit is amazing.

Well if you can think of one, I'm all ears...he's been completely dominant.

Regarding Bones, he looked an entire weight class bigger than Shogun, Rogan mentioned it during the fight....that's where his advantage is. His length and reach makes it hard for anyone to get close enough to do damage.

I really don't know anyone at 205 that can even find any weaknesses to exploit...he does such a great job keeping everyone on the outside and even if they get close in like Shogun did a couple of times, he makes them pay.

Jones vs Silva would be an epic battle.

Just researched it. GSP has indeed won every single round since regaining the title and had some 10-8 in there as well. He won 4 out of 5 via unamous decision scoring 50 on each score card and won all 3 rounds vs Penn before the stoppage. Thats not against chumps either. That's Fitch, Alves, Koschek, Penn, and Hardy.

That's just sick.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Yeah that seems about right I guess.

Wow. I hadn't even thought of it.

****ing amazing. And yet it still seems like GSP doesn't get the cred he deserves really. If he gets past Jake Shields, and I expect him to, the fight with Silva is going to be ****ing epic.

I may be nuts but I wanna see that fight a lot more than Silva vs. GSP...esp. considering GSP doesn't seem to keen on moving up to 85.

If Dana goes ahead with GSP vs. Anderson, I'd LOVE to see Bones vs. Mousasi...sadly we probably won't get that fight either.

yeah I just got done doing the same thing.

I was wrong.
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I'm late to the party here but I really thought it would be a more competitive fight than it was. I said from the start I thought Bones was a bad dude but he ran through Shogun and I was shocked.

Shogun didn't look like himself. Part of it was Jones, but part of it was his conditioning. I know Shogun has never really been in GREAT physical shape, but he was way too soft & Jiggely for this fight.

He was sucking wind hard after the first round. He was slower than normal, he almost looked to be fighting timid.

Dont get me wrong, i was thoroughly impressed with Jones. I've been impressed with him ever since I first saw him fight. He's been my favorite fighter for awhile now.

But, that was not the Shogun we all know, either.

you take yourself too seriously in this thread. There's nothing wrong with rooting for a guy and being a fan.

You seriously going to take the, "I'm not a fan because I haven't seen him get rocked" stance?

That's pretty lame. You are basically sitting here and discrediting what the kid has accomplished because he's not a vet rather than congratulating him for what he has done in such a short career.

You cant deny the fact that he has a tremendous reach and size and knows how to use it, has an epic ground game, capable of an array of submissions and is incredibly versatile.

That small list I just mentioned will keep him at the top of this sport for a long long time. You can't say that about too many fighters.

i agree

He didn't seem to have the same level of agression that we saw when he face stomped people in Pride or when he put Machida to sleep for sure. You can't really tell if it's going to be the Machida Shogun or the Forrest Shogun that will show up these days.

Do I appear to give a **** what you think about my opinion?

Your opinion is that Jones is the real deal. Mine is that he needs to show he can survive some rough spots. You yourself said that Shogun didn't appear to be 100% and apparently now there is a video floating around from a week before the fight that shows he gassed just from some heavy bag work.

So Jones beat a marshmellowed out of shape Shogun, and we're supposed to worship at his alter. No thanks. Let him win some real battles and I'll give him more props.

Dude, the Jones win wasn't a fluke....you need to get over that.

i cant say it was a fluke but the people that have watched quite a bit more than you obviously think something might have been wrong with shogun sat. night

He's starting to remind me a lot of a cross between BJ Penn and a box of chocolates.

He's the one of the best 205ers going if he's on. He is easily gassed if he's off.

I've seen the 2 sides of Shogun. Jones just isn't the guy you want to face and not have your A game. If your off your game and Forrest finishes you then you have no shot against Jones in that situation.

not trying to be a dick....but this was a title fight...and not being properly prepared is just too ****in bad IMO.

I think they are saying he wasn't able to properly train due to being injured, not lazy.

Yeah we've all seen better performances....but in a "fight" it's kinda silly to say something like "well that wasn't the REAL Shogun". It's a fight...and you better be up for a title fight against someone like him or you're gonna get your ass kicked, and that's what happened.


btw - what was this "injury"?

I am sure most of us can agree that Jones will smash Evans. Or at least I hope he does.

He had knee surgery last June hince the year long lay off.

same here.....there's gonna be a lot of shit talking I'm sure leading up to that fight.

This will end badly for Rashad. I don't see how he gets anywhere near Jones in that fight.

I think I will buy that one for sure. I love watching Rashad get put on queer street.

yep.

its a pay day. these guys only get so many for their career.

thats why ,IMO, so many go in at less than 100%.


also IMO shogun was not 100%. whether it was due to the knee or something else i dont know.

Dude, even a gassed Shogun is better than a lot of fighters out there.

Who's worshiping his alter? He's a good fighter, whether you want to admit it or not. Jones is the real deal. Just because he hasn't run through everyone in his class doesn't mean he's not.

Who's going to beat him? Evans? GTFO. Rampage? Yeah ****ing right.

Machida? Maybe.

Who does he have to beat to get your almighty approval? If you can't see he's the "real deal" when he fights, then i honestly don't think you know what you're looking at.

(everyone sit back and watch Guardian's vagina swell up after that last comment)

I have my opinion and you have yours. As I noted, I don't care what you think of my opinion. My opinion is that Jones has a lot to prove.

And no out of shape fighter is worth a shit at that level of fighting. Shogun was gassed before the first round was over. He couldn't have beat a tier 2 fighter in that kind of shape. Remember this is the same Shogun that lost to Forrest. He can either be the baddest 205'er there is, or he can look like a level B guy. You never know with Shogun.

Second, you're discrediting guys that have fought a lot of guys that are top fighters while giving Jones a pass for not beating anyone yet. Talk about hypocrisy.

Jones will be the real deal IMO when he earns it. So far, he hasn't faced a lot of adversity. He beat an out of shape Shogun. Whooptee shit. I will wait until he faces and perseveres through some title fights against more top guys before I ride his jock like you are. Maybe that's why your vagina is swollen.

I saw an article that floated a fight I would love to see, GSP v Nick Diaz. If Dana could get over his hatred of Diaz this would be a very good fight. I also like the thought of Jake Shields going back to 185 and fighting Anderson Silva, his striking is not great though.

Diaz vs GSP does not interest me anymore then another GSP Koschek beatdown.

Shields at 185 for Silva would be interesting though.

Is Diaz still slated to face Daley next month?
Be interesting if Diaz decides to stand up with Daley...bad idea.

I hate Diaz but man he's got an iron chin and he just get's better every time out. His cardio is unmatched and he has an outstanding ground game

Yeah, he's beat a nice list of who isn't who. I'd like to see him beat a few top 10 guys or at least 1 before putting him in there with GSP.

He's had a good run of tomato cans for sure, Strikeforce hasn't had much else to offer really. He doesn't have the personality that God gave a goat but he's a darn fine weed smoker and you tube videographer

Tim Kennedy just tweeted he's signed to fight Michael Bisping next, I hope he kicks Bispings head in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt69a...layer_embedded
Joe Rogan talks about Fedor being too fat and he should fight at 205 or 185

like when the fights are on i was way ahead of rogan.

i said this quite some time ago

Jake Sheilds would get murdered if he stood up w/ Silva.

I don't know why they keep giving Bisping fights....he ****ing sucks.

Because he makes for a good bad guy?

That's exactly it, I know I would pay the 50 for a PPV just to see a replay of Hendo putting him out.

If Diaz stands with Daley, its lights out for him. Diaz has a good chin, but Daley just has scary knockout power in his hands. Hence "Semtex".

I highly doubt this fight stays on its feet long.

Also, lets see Diaz face some better opponents. I think Koscheck would give Diaz a real damn good fight honestly. GSP I think would handle Diaz handily.

Scott SMith and Robbie Lawlor both had superior power but KO'd by Diaz, he's an excellent boxer. GSP would destroy him.

Diaz continues to impress. I hate his personaility but he is a world class fighter. Still not on the same level with GSP yet. I'd like to see him fight Fitch or Koscheck

The only thing worse than the Mousasi/Jardine decision was the amount of make up the Strikeforce production crew put on Gus Johnson. The guy looked like a drag queen who got his wig tore off.

Mousassi definitely got the short end of the stick there but man Jardine proved he was tough

I think he struggles against either one of those guys.

I do too. I like Diaz but he's gotta beat some non-tomato cans right now for me to buy completely in.

So whats the point of Fedor fighting Dan Henderson?

I dont get that.

Fedor fighting Hendo could be a great litmus test for him. If he drops to 205, which he should, he could be very competitive again and he isn't really afraid of anything Hendo has. He can move well enough not to take one of those huge right hands and his groung game at 205 should be awesome. He really needs to train with a better camp.

This guy has never cut like that to my knowledge, so I have no wonder how much that takes out of his endurance especially at his age. That's going to be interesting.

As it is he doesn't cut at all. He just trains and shows up, I doubt he has the diet alot of the other guys have to follow.

Step 1 should be getting a better camp. But we all know that isn't going to happen.

They have him hypnotized to stay there

Nick Diaz is the Manny Ramirez of MMA- he's way out there

http://video.aol.com/aolvideo/aol-sp...w/898608649001

Anyone else stoked for GSP v Shields? I think it will be a good fight. I also like the Aldo v Hominick fight. And you can't forget Randy's last stand. If he can get inside and contro the cage he could beat Machida.

Yes, very stoked about these fights! I'm of the opinion GSP will walk through Shields though. I hope I'm wrong and it is a good fight!

yes.
me too
i agree.

lol

I don't think anyone walks right through Shields. GSP knows this is the biggest challenge he has faced as the Champ @ 170.

I hope you're right. It will be a lot more entertaining if so.