What was even funnier was when he was trying to say it wasn't a shank.......I'd be trying to convince myself that also.

Having battled those for extended periods at times in my own golf career, I have a ****ing insta-meltdown if I hit one. I just instantly flip out.

I get them BAD. Used to be so bad, I could go out and hit a shag bag and never get one in the air.

I have about 1 or 2 every 1 to 2 rounds, I know what I do though now so I don't flip out so bad.

For me, it's all in my right knee and my head. If I don't lose my right knee and don't come out of it, I'll never do it.

I get to jerking it back with my bottom hand, throwing it wide open and then I don't get it back

When I first started playing I used to fan the club open really bad, and I'd cut the piss out of the ball. Any more, I almost intentionally keep it shut on the way back. I hit a pretty big draw, though.

When I was in the my prime junior career, I played in an AJGA qualifier and shot 109. I shanked every single iron shot 7 iron to Sand Wedge. It was pathetic. I would stripe driver. Then shank one ob. Then shank another one. Then run a punch shot up and drain a 50 footer for double. It was even a GOOD 109 because I was putting so well. On the 2nd nine I kind of made due and shot about a 40 or something by just hitting all punch shots with a 5 or 6 iron. Craziest round of golf I've ever played. The next week I had a top 15 finish in the Iowa Golf Association State Championship.

Yeah pretty common for starters or high handicappers. Being wide open that is. I realize you are either now.

So, Garcia's comments were: "I don't like it, I don't think it's fair. Even when it's dry you get a lot of mud balls in the middle of the fairway."

Harrington then says, "Honestly I'm baffled. It's a great golf course, very fair, and they were very generous with the course setup this week.

Look mom, a douchebag!!

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Who wants a green jacket anyway? It would clash with everything.

Yeah Phil did play great...after he shot the 30 on the front nine, I honestly thought he was going to shoot 63 or 62 because he had been tearing the back 9 up, esp. the par 5's.

The tee shot on 12 killed me though...when he stepped up to the tee, I was saying to myself to just hit the shot you hit in 2004 which was perfect and spurred him on to win the tourney. The tee shot was bad but I think it was the fact that he didn't make a 4 that really killed him. A bogey there isn't the end of the world but a double is just a momentum killer.

Ah well, I can take solace in the fact that he beat Eldrick and basically one upped him at every turn. :D You know that had to kill Tiger inside and his douchebag caddie...I loved it.

LOL I wonder how many nightmares Perry had last night about those two putrid iron shots to 18 and 10 in the playoff...he played it off yesterday but you just know it had to be killing him inside.

Funny thing: Phil hit a 3/4 8 iron in 2004 into that pin. Yesterday he hit a stock 9. He didn't make a bad course management error, as he said, he just made a poor swing. It looked like he was trying to hit a knockdown, and that's what I thought and posted earlier, but he really just made a poor swing and it cost him.

Shit like that will happen, it just sucks it happened on 12, because that's the worst place on the course to hit a poor approach.

What is your handicap?

That's a good ?. I've never actually paid for a USGA handicap, so I don't have an official one. Right now, if it were to ever dry up where I could play consistently, I'd probably be a 12. By the end of the summer, I'd probably be a 7 or so.

I'm a terrible putter, though. I hit the ball like a 2 and putt like a 22.

This is my game to a tee. I'm above average off the box, with 300-ish power, but then I just fumble**** my way around the green. Quite discouraging, and probably why I won't play a "dry" course.

Went to the range yesterday with one of my friends. It's so frustrating watching him hit balls. He's got a real narrow stance, hunches over it, and then drops the club in there at about 130 MPH. He was flying those mushmelon balls on the range 315-320 consistently. He's gonna do Remax this year for shits and giggles. Just drives me nuts that I have to hit a ****ing lob wedge to catch up with his drives.

I really need to work on increasing the lag in my swing, because right now I have absolutely none.

Hangover feeling better?

Nope.

Come over to mlb mega thread and watch the Cubs/Cards. I'm bored.

Alright all you PGA Tour Pros, a meager hacker like myself needs some advice. I won a Taylor Made R7 driver a few weeks ago and have the receipt w/ 10 yr warranty valued at $310. Now I have no need for one club that's worth 3x the entire contents of my golf bag so I'm thinking of returning this to Sports Authority and purchasing a new set of irons. I don't play enough to justify spending anymore money on clubs so I have approx. a $300 limit.

I can't just return the driver for cash because it was purchased by the company who sponsored the event so I know I'm going to have to take store credit at Sports Authority and purchase from there.

What set of irons would you recommend???

Thanks in advance for all the legit responses (and even for the dumb ones as long as they're funny).

Good game improvement set for a duffer:

http://www.sportsauthority.com/produ...entPage=family

Baseball.....yeech.....please William, I'm trying to eat. :Lin:

What's the "draw iron" all about? And I need cheaper! Who's ponying up the extra $40? :cuss:

It helps high handicappers, because their most common miss is right. It has a built in bias to encourage a right to left ball flight.

Try these then, you cheap bastard!!

http://www.sportsauthority.com/produ...entPage=family

Are Hippo's any good? I've never heard of them before.

I'm assuming Sports Authority has more selection in store than online. Are there any other sets anyone recommends that may not appear on the SA website, but are around $300? Nothing against Hamas, but anyone else's opinions are welcomed too (thanks Hamas).

Ian Woosnam and John Daly both used to be contracted pros who played Hippo equipment on the tour. It's not Titleist, Ping, or Callaway, but it's not like you are playing with hickory shafted niblicks either.

Does sports authority carry Adams?

It doesn't appear so: http://www.sportsauthority.com/famil...43986&view=all

That's their online selection of irons. Callaway, Nike, Cleveland, Taylor Made, F2, Top Flite, and Hippo appear to be their brands.

Please feel free to throw any ideas out there.

Dick's Sporting Goods carries Adams.

In lighter golf news, Caddyshack pro dings lady in the head
 

Murray autographs 'Caddyshack' for golf victim

Comedian nails woman with wayward tee shot during pro-am Thursday


LUTZ, Fla. - One day after she was plunked on the head by Bill Murray’s wayward tee shot, Gayle DiMaggio had a request: a signed copy of his movie “Caddyshack.”

The actor, meanwhile, was back on the course Saturday for the second round of the Outback Pro-Am. And the course marshals took no chances: They wore hard hats.

DiMaggio lives on the course where Murray hooked his shot far to the left of the No. 9 hole at TPC Tampa Bay. She was hit on the left temple Friday as she stood in her backyard to watch the first round. She never lost consciousness but needed stitches at a hospital.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30267937/

Well since you have to buy at the store, and the limit of 300, your options are limited. Seems the only set under 300 is the Hippos, which I think is a waist of money. I would probably go with Wilson full sets (comes with everything) over the Hippo.

Really though, they have a good price on the R7's, if it were me I would pay the extra and get the good set, and you'll be set for a long time.

That's what I'm starting to think as well. I can save a few bucks and get Hippos or spend a few more and get some nice clubs.

What's your opinion of the draw aspect of the R7s?

Great for the recreational golfer.

IMO I would definitely get the better set.

Day 1 of the 'Hamas' Jenkins Project

So, I finally decided to say "**** it" and completely retool my swing. I feel like I'm stagnating with the current swing that I have, which is very vertical, and very steep. I'm way too flippy with my hands, and I cannot consistently groove a swing that works for all clubs. It's either short irons, mid irons, or woods, and never more than 2/3 working at once.

In the past I used to push my arms almost straight back and then raise them as I completed my shoulder turn. This led to a huge and deep shoulder turn, but got me way too far outside of my right foot. This combined with the inconsitency in keeping the flex in my right knee made me a very inconsistent ball striker. My swing speed tops out at about 103, which given my flexibility (I can move my legs behind my head and touch my wrists rather than just my fingers to the ground when I touch my toes) and core rotation is just lack luster.

So, after reading the musings of what appears to be a very well respected pro on Golf WRX by the handle of slicefixer, I've decided to move to a modern rotary swing (Jim Hardy would call it a one plane swing). Today I went to the course and worked exclusively on his version of the 9-3 drill, which involves turning your core and hips until the club is waist high, allowing the wrists to set, and then turning through the shot while maintaining the angle of your right wrist (no scooping) and letting your body, rather than your arms, release the club.

I hit 72 straight shots like this with a sand wedge. Most of the early ones leaked way right, several were on the center of the face but fat, many were heeled, and four were out and out s****s. I did hit a few solid, and was surprised how different it feels to truly compress the ball against the turf. It's almost like the ball hits back at you a little bit. The biggest problem is that I wasn't turning away from the ball enough (too much arms) and my arms got caught behind me on the through motion (which led to the heel shots), but my balance did feel markedly better, and for session 1, I'd say it was reasonably productive.

I'm going to do nothing but this drill for the next several weeks to really ingrain the swing changes.

Wish me luck.

HJ.

Sweet.

Our club pro gave me my first ever lesson this morning before work.

I was losing power because I was pushing through the ball with my right side instead of pulling through the ball with my left. After about 25 swings, I noticed a 15 yard increase in all of my irons.

I also found out that my clubs have to whippy of a shaft. I already have stiff shafts, but I'm losing distance/power because they give too much.

Been swinging a Taylormade R7 Quad driver for several years now and loved it until last week. Hit a friend's Cleveland Hibore XL and outdrove my R7 by 20 yards easy. Looked at ebay and snagged a Hibore XLS for $67. Got the club yesterday, opened the package to realize that it wasn't used like I thought - BRAND NEW! (Can't believe the guy didn't put NEW anywhere in the auction - though he listed 18 of them to end within less than 10 seconds from each other, causing them to sell for less than half of what used Hibores had been selling for at the start of the weekend so I shouldn't be surprised).

Took it out this morning. It's hitting straight and really, really long. Laid into one drive and put it less than 10 yards off the front of a 325 yard green. Yesterday I took it to the driving range and on wet ground was bouncing balls past the 300 sign.

I'm happy with it!

Are you interested in selling your TM?

And if so, what shaft does it have in it?

Heading to the course :-)

Good luck with that! Sounds like you are going it alone? I'm afraid to make a major swing change without guidance - I just can't feel what I'm doing well enough to know if I'm doing it correctly.

I actually read up on slicefixer's swing last summer, but found I didn't quite understand the drills well enough to do them on my own, specifically the 9-to-3. It seems like one of those drills that you could think you're doing right, but be doing very wrong, and just screw yourself up more. I was never able to find an explanation that really clicked for me on that one, though admittedly, I didn't look all that hard. Making a major swing change is a huge commitment, and takes a lot of patience - hope it works out for you.

I'm working on setting up some lessons for myself to try and improve my ball striking. I have a similar problem with flippy hands/wrists, and haven't been able to get over that on my own. Put up an 84 yesterday, which is great (for me) for my first full round this season, but my iron play pretty much sucked - need to get that fixed...

I've had more swing coaches in my life than one would know what to do with. I played golf in college, and my coaches were always tweaking with my swing. I'd get all the lessons in the summer I could handle. I'll admit, I don't have a real pretty looking swing. I do a forward press at my set up on all my clubs, and I have a closed stance on most of my shots and my swing looks raw and jerky. But, the less I think about it. The better I do. I make adjustments MYSELF, based on how I am hitting the ball and my tendencies, but for the most part my swing remains the same.

Every fall and spring I'd work my ass off watching video with my coaches and with golf pros, and they'd tell me to do this and that. I'd end up playing like crap when I listened to them. In the summer time tournaments away from school I'd play 10x times better because I don't have somebody in my ear telling me how I should be hitting the ball. I shot 69-71-74-72 in consecutive tournaments in the summer of 2003 after I had averaged like 79 in school ball. Once you play enough, you get a feel for your own swing, and what little adjustments you need to make to grind through your round. Thing that always held me back was my putting and chipping, not how I hit the ball.

Probably not. I hit my TM too good and too far to get rid of. It has the re-ax 65 shaft in it. I love the club and have matching 3 and 5 woods to go with it - first matching set of woods I've had since I bought a set of wilsons right after I started playing 20 years ago. Well, they almost match. The driver and 3 match, I haven't had the 5 long enough to put an idiot mark across the top of it by going under a ball like the Driver and 3 have, but I'm sure it won't take long to add one to the 5 wood.

Who's ready to watch Checka piss down his leg? He's decided he's going to wear a red shirt with black pants, he says he's not intimidated by Tiger. Heh, we'll see how that goes.

I guess he thought better of it, he's wearing black. He had said yesterday he was going to wear red.

aaand he puts it in the crowd with his first shot. He's going to need a good shot early or it could get ugly in a hurry.

tiger in the water....first time i've witnessed that

Everybody hacking around the course.

Well Checha has pissed down his leg. But so has Tiger. He's got an absolutely must make birdie putt coming up to get within 3 of Crane.

Sheesh, at this rate, the 4 under posted hours ago is going to win the ****ing tournament.

Chejka now +6 through 8.

The phrase "get in the hole" should be punishable by death upon utterance at any golf event...

Hit a hole in one Wednesday night. Back tees, 158 yards, 9 iron.

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Congrats.

My golf ball off beer can......shitty video sorry

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The two courses I played on Oahu were Ko-olau and Olomana. Ko'olau is the course you want to play if you've accrued a large collection of golf balls and you want to lose them. It calls itself the toughest golf course in the U.S., and if there is a tougher course, I'm not going anywhere near it. Abolutely insane. Club rentals were either beaten-up King Cobra sets or beaten-up Callaway sets.

Olomana is the course you play to relax. Easy track, lots of short par-4's, wide-open, and for club rentals they give you brand new Taylormade Burner wood & iron sets. Wow. Had the best round I've had in 20 years. Hit the ball as hard as you want, and you can find your ball afterwards. Driver/wedge on all of the par 4's, and the fives are reachable in two for the hacker with the average distance. It's not a resort, it's a muni, but a beautiful muni course on the east side of Oahu. Staff was very kind, pace was nice, and they let singles on. Gave me a bucket of balls to get acclimated to the clubs.

Play Olomana. Avoid Ko-olau like the fricken plague, unless you're a masochist, or you want to silence your buddies when they talk about how tough a course is... you'll be able to pipe in and say, "This is nothing... you oughta see Ko'olau on Oahu."

Don't know if this has ever been posted but it seems like a very good video. Considering my swing sucks ass, I will be practicing this all week.

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Played in a two day calcuta tourney this weekend. Partner backed out on me friday night. Picked up a guy who hadnt played in over a year. shot 5 over the first day to get in C flight. Then shot a 68 the next day to win flight and calcutta. Nice payday considering we bought ourselves for $20. They added an extra flight so lost 160 bucks when that happened.

Is anybody playing in the McGladrey Team Championship?


http://teamchamp.pgalinks.com/index....ut_partnership

Just redid an old scotty, went all black with white and yellow lettering, took me forever...........now only if I was right handed :)




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Smokes are way to high for turtles to start bumming :D

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Are there any pro's honestly that use the baseball grip? Jason Zubiak doesn't count

I don't think there is

I mean Ian Woosnam is like leprechaun height and I don't think he even does

Yeah, I couldn't imagine this day and age someone making that far without someone changing it.

LOL that is hilarious. Better watch out, Peta might go nuts if they see that. Good thing your head the head is cut out of the person holding it.

It's okay, he read the surgeon generals warning before deciding to have a smoke

Put together my own Irons this week. Ordered the components to build some Taylormade R7 Clone Irons from www.golf-components.com last week. The parts came in monday and were ready to play tuesday morning. Total bill was about $110. Heads were $65 for 3-9,PW,SW,LW. Shafts were cheap Apollo brand, but got them for less than $25. Grips, I went with the Golf Pride Tour Wraps.

I started off by using redneck engineering to find the spine on the shafts (shaft supported at the ends with a 10lb barbell weight in the middle, turning the shaft, and measuring the point with the least flex), put the spine pointing where I aim. Then, used 2 different formulas for determining the shaft legnth I needed (measured to finger tips and wrists - both charts agreed on the legnth), then cut the shafts to legnth using the instructions that came with the shafts for regular flex. Gripped the shafts, then put the heads on with beaded epoxy.

I am loving having clubs that actually fit me though they weigh quite a bit more than my old Ping Zing Clones. It's taking a bit to get used to the weight difference on the Wedge, which has cost me strokes this week - though I'm starting to get the feel for it. Kinda cool playing with clubs I put together myself. Friend of mine has some genuine Taylormade Burner irons, he hit these and said he was really impressed with them and that they were very comparable to his.

Shot 3 over par (9 holes) from the championship tees my second round with them.


http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/golfcomponents_2062_17101334

Do you play Clinton's course? What's it like?

Been walking it 3-4 mornings a week all summer.

Its not bad overall. Front nine has been closed since last fall. The city has sunk over half a mill into renovations on the front nine. Should be pretty nice in a couple of years. City manager keeps telling people it should be open anytime. The poor greenskeeper that's taking care of the front 9 is working his tail off but grass only grows so fast no matter what you do to it.

4 of the 18 holes actually play over the Washita river and the river comes into play on 3-4 more. The course is a decent challenge, fairly flat, but still has plenty of hazzards to run my penalty stroke count up.

Awsome, Pastor. I buy my knockoffs and have a local guy put them together for me. Just got back from playing. Played pretty lights out. 3 over 38 front nine, including a double due to hitting OB. 4(2 3 putts, but one 50 footer for birdie) over on the back, have 3 holes left, had to leave due to a couples tourney starting. Will finish in the morning.

I have had some knock offs before, not bad at all.

They're not for the low handicappers, and they lose some distance, but if you lose your ego and club up from normal, they're not bad for the average golfer.

Guy I bought my Zing clones from was a decent golfer (probably 4-6 handicap). He wanted the real thing so he sold me his clone set and bought Zings. He told me a few months later he couldn't tell that there was any real difference in the clubs.

One thing I would recommend. Take them to a shop and have the loft checked on them. A lot of times with clones, not as much time and precision goes into the making of them and they are off, but can be bent to spec.

Like my game is good enough to notice the difference between a 30 degree 7, 37 degree 8 and 41 degree 9.

:):):)


Actually, I wanted an attack wedge and couldn't get one as the company had quit making them. I picked up a genuine Taylormade R7 AW and other than degree of loft I can't feel or seen any difference between it and the clones.

Had a good sized local scramble tourney here yesterday. Couldn't sleep this morning so I got up early and went to the course to look for homeless balls. As I was wandering in a plowed field where players with a major slice on one hole tend to put balls, I noticed I kept finding balls like Nike, Callaway, and even a couple Pro V1s.

Finding those exensive balls in major sliceland, I got to thinking that the players hitting those balls aren't good enough to benifit from playing expensive balls and should settle for economy grade choices to send off into never-never land. Then it hits me, a commercial for Top Flight or even Ti-Tech...

[commercial announcer] Let's be honest, our golf balls aren't as good as our competitors. They don't fly quite as far or roll quite as good as those higher priced balls do.

Let's be honest, you really aren't good enough to benifit from playing one of those high-end balls either. Would you rather send a $5 ball to the right into the tall grass or one of our 50 cent balls?

Why not save yourself some money, buy our brand, then take the money you saved and get some lessons.
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Cool, Smitty.

I made an ace when I was 15 and thought it was no big deal. I've been very close several times but never repeated the feat.

Back then I got all sorts of stuff from both MacGregor (Nicklaus Golden Bear golf ball) and Spalding (clubs) for my achievement. I've heard companies don't do much for acers any more. It's too bad. I still have all that stuff including the certificate verifying the accomplishment.

OK, the coverage today has been hilarious. Earlier, coming back from commercial, they keyed the mic's too early and you could hear some woman from production talking about kissing one of the announcers. Now, I swear they just got Tiger farting loudly.

Tiger is Even after one hole. Will he stay near the top of the Leaderboard today, or will he be nearly out of the tournament after day one like the rest of the majors this year?

What channel?