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ForeverIowan 04-22-2025 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18037631)
And in 2026 he'll be the #3 pass catcher on the team (WR or TE). Right now, even fully healthy, that's probably Travis Kelce.

This offense is going to have to evolve to life without TK and likely life without Hollywood Brown in extremely short order. The learning curve for WRs here, even when accelerated, is about 6-8 weeks.

We get into next season with three hugely talented young WRs with experience in this system and you're not gonna think to yourself "Man, we sure pissed away that pick on Burden..."

We already can't do bunch sets with Kelce as the single man anymore. We've gotta start to figure out a path forward. Burden is a HELL of an option in that regard.

Im not saying any line of thinking is right or wrong. Purely thinking out loud. I personally think Treyveon Henderson could become a Jahmyr Gibbs type player. Damn if that caliber of a player wouldnt be unreal in our backfield to pair with pass catchers Rice/Worthy/Hollywood/Kelce. Health permitting, if Henderson is a hit, that team should be playing for another SB.

From my stance, Id take another major swing at receiver in 2026. Thats just me. And to the Rashee Rice suspension folks, last I read he is more likely to face suspension in 2026 than 2025. If any suspension at all.
His legal stuff has been on hold from what Ive heard due to the case load in that jurisdiction.

O.city 04-22-2025 03:00 PM

I'm for it...but shit can we maybe develop another WR out of the mid or late rounds or something?

MahomesMagic 04-22-2025 03:05 PM

We have never hit on a WR after the 2nd round since DeMarcus Robinson and Tyreek Hill in 2016.

staylor26 04-22-2025 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18037659)
We have never hit on a WR after the 2nd round since DeMarcus Robinson and Tyreek Hill in 2016.

How many have we drafted after the 2nd round since then?

Hint: not much more than that

Jehu Chesson and Cornell Powell.

So the Chiefs are batting around .500 drafting WRs after the 2nd round since 2016. What's the issue?

As those like myself to tell you when you were screaming that the Chiefs can't draft WRs, the problem has always been the amount of shots they've taken. It's not a coincidence that after taking a WR in the first 2 rounds 3 years in a row, they found their WR duo of the future.

DJ's left nut 04-22-2025 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18037661)
How many have we drafted after the 2nd round since then?

Hint: not much more than that

Jehu Chesson and Cornell Powell.

So the Chiefs are batting around .500 drafting WRs after the 2nd round since 2016. What's the issue?

As those like myself to tell you when you were screaming that the Chiefs can't draft WRs, the problem has always been the amount of shots they've taken. It's not a coincidence that after taking a WR in the first 2 rounds 3 years in a row, they found their WR duo of the future.

I feel like we have to have this little conversation with folks every year, don't we?

You know how you draft well at positions? Hire smart people (we have) and then prioritize the position.

When we have done so in years past, it's paid immediate dividends. LB was rebuilt almost overnight. CB room went from a weakness under Sutton to arguably the best in the league within 3-4 seasons. WR room is on the same course.

I mean hell fellas, ****ing quarterback -- I'd say putting a little effort into that for the first time in decades worked out okay for us.

I figure next on the docket will be DL and OL. Specifically DT and OT. We've seen a slow move towards addressing OT that started with Morris and may be picking up greater steam this year and in the year(s) to come. But we still don't have nearly as much draft capital in that position as teams with OT situations no better than ours.

Funny how "Veach can't draft X" has been proven wrong every single time it's been uttered.

It's just a matter of scarce resources and priority. We'll see how they choose to prioritize that allocation of resources in a couple of days...

DJ's left nut 04-22-2025 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18037654)
I'm for it...but shit can we maybe develop another WR out of the mid or late rounds or something?

But when you have a scouting department that has done a really nice job with those middle round picks in the secondary and LB, wouldn't it be prudent to continue to use those picks on the areas you have a really good feel for?

And when that same department has now shown a solid eye (2 out of 3) for 1st and 2nd day WRs, might it not be wise to continue to take a similar approach?

If you get a starting caliber Nickel Corner or LBer in the 3rd or 4th round and your WR in the 1st or second...who cares that you didn't get the CB in the 2nd and the WR in the 1st?

When you find an approach that works, it would seem wise to ride it till it bucks ya.

So for me I'd continue to focus on WR and DL on days 1 and 2 due to our recent successes (and the way the talent falls) while using day 3 to focus on areas where we've had success finding players in the past -- IOL, LB and Secondary.

staylor26 04-22-2025 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18037684)
I feel like we have to have this little conversation with folks every year, don't we?

You know how you draft well at positions? Hire smart people (we have) and then prioritize the position.

When we have done so in years past, it's paid immediate dividends. LB was rebuilt almost overnight. CB room went from a weakness under Sutton to arguably the best in the league within 3-4 seasons. WR room is on the same course.

I mean hell fellas, ****ing quarterback -- I'd say putting a little effort into that for the first time in decades worked out okay for us.

I figure next on the docket will be DL and OL. Specifically DT and OT. We've seen a slow move towards addressing OT that started with Morris and may be picking up greater steam this year and in the year(s) to come. But we still don't have nearly as much draft capital in that position as teams with OT situations no better than ours.

Funny how "Veach can't draft X" has been proven wrong every single time it's been uttered.

It's just a matter of scarce resources and priority. We'll see how they choose to prioritize that allocation of resources in a couple of days...

Perfectly said.

Mosbonian 04-22-2025 04:00 PM

I saw that on the ESPN website they had the reporters from each NFL team choose the 1st round pick....

Teicher phoned it in and picked Simmons.

Lame....

O.city 04-22-2025 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18037688)
But when you have a scouting department that has done a really nice job with those middle round picks in the secondary and LB, wouldn't it be prudent to continue to use those picks on the areas you have a really good feel for?

And when that same department has now shown a solid eye (2 out of 3) for 1st and 2nd day WRs, might it not be wise to continue to take a similar approach?

If you get a starting caliber Nickel Corner or LBer in the 3rd or 4th round and your WR in the 1st or second...who cares that you didn't get the CB in the 2nd and the WR in the 1st?

When you find an approach that works, it would seem wise to ride it till it bucks ya.

So for me I'd continue to focus on WR and DL on days 1 and 2 due to our recent successes (and the way the talent falls) while using day 3 to focus on areas where we've had success finding players in the past -- IOL, LB and Secondary.

Maybe.

It, as usual comes down to..."if you want really good players you're probably gonna have to draft em early".

MahomesMagic 04-22-2025 04:20 PM

I don't want us to stop using late picks on corners or DB's just because we are so good at it but a few WR's or dev tackles can't hurt moving forward.

RunKC 04-22-2025 04:21 PM

Even Seth Keysor is on the Luther Burden train. It feels obvious at this point unless these guys feel confident in a LT that will be a legit possibility

duncan_idaho 04-22-2025 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18037761)
Even Seth Keysor is on the Luther Burden train. It feels obvious at this point unless these guys feel confident in a LT that will be a legit possibility

I can't shake this scene from my head, for Thursday night:

1) The Chiefs trade up into the low-middle 20s
2) All the draft analysts/talking heads/Twitter explode talking about and speculating about them coming to get a T, probably Josh Simmons. Some will spew about Conerly, or Eirsery.
3) The pick will then be announced as either a DT or a WR
4) Everyone but Chiefsplanet denizens will be FLOORED

Semichief 04-22-2025 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18037786)
I can't shake this scene from my head, for Thursday night:

1) The Chiefs trade up into the low-middle 20s
2) All the draft analysts/talking heads/Twitter explode talking about and speculating about them coming to get a T, probably Josh Simmons. Some will spew about Conerly, or Eirsery.
3) The pick will then be announced as either a DT or a WR
4) Everyone but Chiefsplanet denizens will be FLOORED

If we trade up to take Burden over Connerly or a DL, I’ll lose my mind.

The Athletic Football Podcast had us taking Tyler Booker at 31. I’d prefer that over trading up for Burden.

WR is not a position of need either for a functional starter or someone to be the top guy for the unit in a few years. DT is. DE is. OT is. RB is. Folks here might like Burden because he’s sexy and local, but it really doesn’t make sense if you believe Rice and Worthy will both be 1,000 yard guys.

Sassy Squatch 04-22-2025 05:00 PM

That's just silly. Burden would be an incredibly worthwhile investment, especially considering Kelce is almost assuredly retiring after the end of the year, Brown is a brokedick, and Rice is facing an undetermined suspension and coming off a serious knee injury.

RunKC 04-22-2025 05:04 PM

This draft needs to be a shift back to the old philosophy of the Mahomes era. Get the WR.
Hollywood hasn't played a full season simce 2021 and will be gone next year, Juju is washed and nothing but a blocker/scheme open guy and Rashee is coming off a knee injury and will likely be suspended.

A great WR room helps Kelce too. He doesn’t have to be “the guy” anymore and with so much talent at WR, defenses will be forced to play zone. Guess who is elite and finding open holes is zone coverage? Guess who can also be a decoy?

This draft is incredibly deep on the DL. You can get talent there in rds 2 & 3. Take the goddamn WR.

Help your generational QB bc he’s had utter shit there for 2 years now.

Get this team back to scoring 30 a game and it will also help the defense. They need to


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