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duncan_idaho 04-29-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16270663)
Hmm.

I just watched the 2021 highlights in the OP and the majority of the time he had 1 on 1 match ups.

I'll take your word for it and be happy for the #3 in pressures...


You think maybe there’s a correlation between getting single blocked and producing a rep that ended up on a highlight reel?

RunKC 04-29-2022 08:18 AM

Someone made an interesting comp for this kid: Jared Allen

Hammock Parties 04-29-2022 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16270675)
Someone made an interesting comp for this kid: Jared Allen

that's a good comp too, he's like a stronger allen

Dante84 04-29-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16270643)
So can anyone tell me why his 2021 season he only put up 4.5 sacks?

2019 - 12 games - 7.5 sacks
2020 - 2 games - 2 sacks
2021 - 12 games - 4.5 sacks

2019 looks intriguing and 2020 was covid related.

But what happened in 2021?

He was 3rd in QB Pressures in all of college football, and was routinely double/triple teamed and schemed against as the only defender worth a damn on his team.

Just looking at sacks here would be like looking at INT's for a great CB on a bad defense where no one throws at him.

Dante84 04-29-2022 08:27 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karlaftis? To the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> ? Oh my</p>&mdash; trey wingo (@wingoz) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingoz/status/1519880143350632448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 04-29-2022 08:29 AM

Putting his RAS in the OP so people stop saying he's not athletic.

DJ's left nut 04-29-2022 08:30 AM

So I typically try REALLY hard to find guys who are a bit under the radar when making comps, especially as the rounds progress.

Comparing someone like Karlaftis to Allen or JJ Watt is nuts. Karlaftis isn't going to be DPOY or go to the HoF, fellas. I'd put just about any amount of money on that. So let's try to find something reasonable here.

I think I've come up with a couple I really like.

Reasonable 75th percentile projection: Jabaal Sheard. Sheard played for a decade and was a capable 6-8 sack sort of guy most years. A little shorter armed, won mostly with power (especially as he aged) and wasn't the most bendy dude you'd see out there. He was never a superstar but he was always a pretty damn good player and someone you were happy to have on your roster.

Bottom 25% projection: Chauncey Davis. Same kind of player, just wasn't as good at it. Played 100 NFL games, started a couple dozen of them. Obviously this would be a disappointing outcome and I think Sheard is the far more likely scenario, but it's not as though a 100 games played floor is a disaster of a pick. When that's something of a worst case scenario for a guy, that's pretty solid.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2022 08:30 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">George Karlaftis doesn&#39;t get enough credit. Dude is consistently chipped/double-teamed/triple-teamed which provides other defenders a chance to make a play if he can&#39;t. Those kinds of intangibles don&#39;t show up in the stats but make a big difference in the game.</p>&mdash; Calvin Williams (@CalvinTaffs) <a href="https://twitter.com/CalvinTaffs/status/1457152431251460106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 04-29-2022 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16270694)
Putting his RAS in the OP so people stop saying he's not athletic.

Narrator: “They still didn’t”

493rd 04-29-2022 08:31 AM

Can’t wait to watch George and Chris wreck opposing offensive game plans. This kid a ****ing brute!

King_Chief_Fan 04-29-2022 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16270643)
So can anyone tell me why his 2021 season he only put up 4.5 sacks?

2019 - 12 games - 7.5 sacks
2020 - 2 games - 2 sacks
2021 - 12 games - 4.5 sacks

2019 looks intriguing and 2020 was covid related.

But what happened in 2021?

ask Frank Clark

DJ's left nut 04-29-2022 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16270694)
Putting his RAS in the OP so people stop saying he's not athletic.

RAS is reeruned.

He's not twitchy and he's not winning with speed or bend around the edge. He's gonna be a puss/pull guy who powers through the OT. It's partially why he gets pressure so often but doesn't finish sacks.

He's just not terribly explosive. But again, that's okay. This is a guy that sets an outstanding foundation to build around. A solid, dependable player that allows you to take more aggressive swings at the other DE position on guys like Mafe, Jackson, Ojabo, Williams, etc...

And lets also not forget that he's a BABY. In a draft loaded w/ 23 and 24 year old rookies, this kid just turned 21 a few weeks ago. He could take 2 years to develop and still be younger than Mafe is now. He'd be the same age as Jermaine Johnson.

And from a football age standpoint, he's barely starting out. There are a lot of rough edges that can be refined that allow him to win on technique rather then bend and explosiveness going forward.

ptlyon 04-29-2022 08:34 AM

He's got intangibles? I'M DOWN MOTHER****ER!

Chiefnj2 04-29-2022 08:40 AM

KC can add a more quick twitch bend type situational pass rusher later in the draft.

karlaftis is the guy you love watching on Sundays with his non-stop motor. His scouting report reads a lot like Tamba Hali's did - raw, non-stop player, maybe not fast or strong enough.

If Karlaftis learns to use his hands it will negate the short arm issue a bit. The non-stop motor is the key.

notorious 04-29-2022 08:42 AM

Bring him on.

I was meh at first, but he shows some good burst in the highlights.


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