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Rams Fan 12-25-2016 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12639512)
I think he's the only guy who has been able to top Matt Cassel for the most money made for the least amount of production and/or games played.

Matt Flynn says other wise.

threebag 12-25-2016 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12639406)
This.

They either hate every QB unless he's a once in a generation type talent OR they offer up no opinion. That way they're never wrong.

I think you boys have enough wrong to go around for all of us.

splatbass 12-25-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 12639503)
Seems to me that Andy and Alice are both equally at fault. A scared coach and a scared QB... never a good combo.

Didn't your team just get beat by the Browns?

Reerun_KC 12-25-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12639537)
Didn't your team just get beat by the Browns?

Remember when Warren Moon and the chiefs got beat by a winless SD for their only win of the season.

splatbass 12-25-2016 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12639540)
Remember when Warren Moon and the chiefs got beat by a winless SD for their only win of the season.

Yup. Although overall the Warren Moon era Chiefs are pretty forgettable.

kccrow 12-25-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12639332)
We are not talking about "the exact same"... we are speaking in generalities about excuses vs legit reasons. Of course, a rookie gets more latitude... but reality is... an excuse is still an excuse.. and a legit reason is a legit reason.

Difference is you might expect a rookie to miss some wide-open reads. You might expect a rookie to be a bit conservative and not take the tight shots a veteran would. There are differences, but the leash given for those excuses tightens rather quickly.

That's where the "Alex bashing" comes into play. People expect Alex to play with a bit more confidence in himself and the players around him, players that are very good at their positions. He doesn't trust his O-line enough, for sure. If Alex ever took the handcuffs off himself, he'd be a very good QB. He certainly has the abilities, but doesn't use them with any regularity. He's so self-constricting that he misses quite a few opn shots down the field and doesn't take those tight-windowed shots that would result in big plays. That doesn't mean he doesn't make those plays sometimes, and that isn't to mean that those who criticize Smith are saying he never does it.

Alex actually reminds me of Matt Hasselbeck, but a little better at avoiding turnovers. He really doesn't go out and win you games with strong statistical showings, he just doesn't do enough damage to make his team lose very often. It's a boring brand of football. After watching horrendous play at the position, fans get to watch boring. That's a recipe for some disgruntled fans. They want to be entertained and have some excitement. They want their turn to have a Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady.

All this makes it a tough out for Alex. He isn't bad. He just isn't good enough in many fan's eyes, especially those that have watched this same thing for decades. His style, with the defense the Chiefs have had the past few years, has been enough to win games. Many don't see that as adequate to beat the elite teams in the league in the playoffs. The Chiefs' defense isn't on par with the 2000 Ravens, 2011 Giants, or the 2014 Seahawks. Is Alex enough without that type of defense? Can Alex get a little Brett Favre in his system come playoff time, which starts tonight in my opinion, and just try to make some plays sometimes?

The real problem is that neither side of this concedes anything. Those that cheer him seem to do so just as blindly as those that criticize him. Alex has flaws. He also has some decent traits.

Reerun_KC 12-25-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12639551)
Yup. Although overall the Warren Moon era Chiefs are pretty forgettable.

Who? :D

kcxiv 12-25-2016 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12639420)
And you don't think Andy Reid has anything to do with the conservative play? Haven't you noticed lately that Reid will open it up once in a while and Alex Smith will play well. He has made some good long throws lately. Then we get ahead and ANDY goes into a shell. But you blame Alex.

IT goes both ways. I dont think Andy trust Alex enough, and i dont think Alex Trusts himself enough. That makes for some boring ass offense. Alex has the ability to check out of a play if he doesnt like the call that Andy is calling.

WE have all just seen this story before. Most of us expect the same ending, becasue its so familiar to anyone over 25-30 years old. Do i like Alex as QB of the Chiefs? NO NO NO NO NO **** NO, but i do want him to do well and i wish him the best. Im a CHiefs fan first, but that doesnt mean i have to agree with the Choices they make for this team. Yeah yeah, i know the well they get paid to do this job they know more then what the average fan does. Thats true, but even the average fan knows when something isnt going to work for the pot of gold at the end.

SAUTO 12-25-2016 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 12639475)
He's not a mod. The only mod that would pull off that spoof would be Phobia and he doesn't come around much any more. He also isn't Black Bob. I ran every cross check you could imagine on his IP when he first showed up and he's not Bob or even a mult. If he would have been Bob, he would have been banned on the spot.

I know he's not.

I'm starting too think maybe he's not Bob. But I'll be god damned if they aren't cut from the same cloth

threebag 12-25-2016 05:33 PM

Hopefully the fantasy people have with sucking uncle dick will go away.

SAUTO 12-25-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12639829)
Hopefully the fantasy people have with sucking uncle dick will go away.

Oh I'm sure he's sucked more than his share

Sandy Vagina 12-25-2016 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12639829)
Hopefully the fantasy people have with sucking uncle dick will go away.

it's horrific anyway.

Making fun of someone who was molested as a kid is despicable. CP is great for its liberal moderation, but this should be condemned. It's as low as mocking someone for having cancer.. or something similar.

vailpass 12-25-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12639869)
it's horrific anyway.

Making fun of someone who was molested as a kid is despicable. CP is great for its liberal moderation, but this should be condemned. It's as low as mocking someone for having cancer.. or something similar.

It's not molestation if it's consensual.

GloryDayz 12-25-2016 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 12638453)
Why does rep matter?

I've been told the worst thing is complaining about it.

stumppy 12-25-2016 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12639852)
Oh I'm sure he's sucked more than his share

I'm not sure if initially he was so much as sucking as maybe a family member through a dick in his mouth just to shut him up. And then it became his go to move.
:D


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