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Prison Bitch 05-02-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10598984)
Seeing that Lawrence's population has nearly doubled since 1980, I'm not buying your whole "there's something broken with Lawrence" hypothesis. Whatever is wrong with KU's enrollment is limited to KU alone, not the city around it.

I was referring to KU. I don't care about Lawrence the town.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-02-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10598984)
Seeing that Lawrence's population has nearly doubled since 1980, I'm not buying your whole "there's something broken with Lawrence" hypothesis. Whatever is wrong with KU's enrollment is limited to KU alone, not the city around it.

The population grew a shit metric ton through the 90's... because so many people loved it there and stayed there after graduating KU... but still worked in KC somewhere... And a lot of people that disliked Topeka moved to West lawrence as well... The people profiting from this were the construction companies through the 90's.... that capitalized on that boom. How many of those construction companies are now out of business? My father benefited from that time, and has since had to close the doors of his local shop... The only thing that really grew in Lawrence was the Bedrooms. The city has done a piss-poor job of establishing anything of substance in businesses... Hallmark has been a stalwart, but they were there long before the population boom.

Chiefspants 05-02-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10598985)
I was referring to KU. I don't care about Lawrence the town.

Ah, Gotcha.

Chiefspants 05-02-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10598995)
The population grew a shit metric ton through the 90's... because so many people loved it there and stayed there after graduating KU... but still worked in KC somewhere... And a lot of people that disliked Topeka moved to West lawrence as well... The people profiting from this were the construction companies through the 90's.... that capitalized on that boom. How many of those construction companies are now out of business? My father benefited from that time, and has since had to close the doors of his local shop... The only thing that really grew in Lawrence was the Bedrooms. The city has done a piss-poor job of establishing anything of substance in businesses... Hallmark has been a stalwart, but they were there long before the population boom.

As someone born in 1992, I could be way off here, but is it possible Lawrence's housing expansion (and subsequent stagnation) in the 90's-00's was linked to the economy at the time?

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-02-2014 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10599009)
As someone born in 1992, I could be way off here, but is it possible Lawrence's housing expansion (and subsequent stagnation) in the 90's-00's was linked to the economy at the time?

What i'm saying is the local commerce or business sector did not expand WITH the residential in lawrence. It is fully dependent upon KC... Lawrence failed to capitalize on this as a whole... obviously there were some good businessmen that did so for themselves, but the City as a whole failed.

Chiefspants 05-02-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10599023)
What i'm saying is the local commerce or business sector did not expand WITH the residential in lawrence. It is fully dependent upon KC... Lawrence failed to capitalize on this as a whole... obviously there were some good businessmen that did so for themselves, but the City as a whole failed.

Thank you for the clarification! As someone just now getting involved in projects with the city of Lawrence, it's intriguing to learn about its history.

Prison Bitch 05-02-2014 12:31 PM

Enrollment matters in football because the more students = more fans at games and more future alumni in attendance. KSU finally passed KU in undergrad enrollment this year 24,581 to 24,435. (KU was at 26,999 in 2008).
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/de...-across-state/

"In 2013 more than 45 percent of KU's Lawrence and Edwards students came from a single county: Johnson."

So to recap: the enrollment at KU was the same in 1980 as it was in 2013. Johnson County exploded in population and KU gets almost 1/2 (!) their students from there. That can imply only one thing: while we rode the growth in Johnson County, we concurrently are getting dominated across the rest of the state by KSU.

ChiTown 05-02-2014 02:29 PM

Congrats!
 
3* QB Ryan Willis from Bishop Miege (my Alma Mater) - Son of former K-State kicker, Steve Willis, committed to ku today. Congrats! Great kid, and great Family. Ryan passed on the K-State offer when Hays QB, Alex Delton, committed to K-State in Feb. Wish we could have had both.

Braincase 05-02-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10599256)
3* QB Ryan Willis from Bishop Miege (my Alma Mater) - Son of former K-State kicker, Steve Willis, committed to ku today. Congrats! Great kid, and great Family. Ryan passed on the K-State offer when Hays QB, Alex Delton, committed to K-State in Feb. Wish we could have had both.

Happy to have him. He sounds excited to headed this way.

Bambi 05-03-2014 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10599256)
3* QB Ryan Willis from Bishop Miege (my Alma Mater) - Son of former K-State kicker, Steve Willis, committed to ku today. Congrats! Great kid, and great Family. Ryan passed on the K-State offer when Hays QB, Alex Delton, committed to K-State in Feb. Wish we could have had both.

You have a link to this statement?

Willis is the higher rated player. Just curious why you say this when it wasn't up for discussion who is the higher projected recruit.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-03-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10600138)
You have a link to this statement?

Willis is the higher rated player. Just curious why you say this when it wasn't up for discussion who is the higher projected recruit.

Regardless of the ratings, it's a good possibility. It can certainly help sway a kids decision having another recruit committed at your position (when there's only one that plays on the entire team). That being said his statement is probably more conjecture than verifiable truth.

O.city 05-03-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10600138)
You have a link to this statement?

Willis is the higher rated player. Just curious why you say this when it wasn't up for discussion who is the higher projected recruit.

I can't link it, but I've heard it from the horses mouth. As soon as the dual threat guy verbally commuted to ksu, Willis was a heavy ku lean.

Mr_Tomahawk 06-01-2014 06:32 PM

Does anyone know they release the times for the games?

ChiTown 06-01-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10600138)
You have a link to this statement?

Willis is the higher rated player. Just curious why you say this when it wasn't up for discussion who is the higher projected recruit.

How about his Daddy? I've known their Family for decades.

alnorth 06-07-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10664500)
Does anyone know they release the times for the games?

I think its roughly 9 or 10 days before the game. All football games have to be TBD until then, because the Big 12 TV contracts give the networks the ability to wait until 10 days before kickoff to pick the games they want to televise, and times for the games they pick can be moved.


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