Not saying he's notan aagreeable cockstroker in the media, but do you really think he believes those things? Have you ever seen him publicly criticize someone?

And I feel no need to read the other 350 posts in this thread. This is the only answer.

Seattle made a super bowl, was in the playoffs every year but one, and won a playoff game virtually every year. Unless you're saying holmgren was responsible for nagging back injuries to hasselbeck which is what ultimately led to their downfall.

I don't care how it worked out in Cleveland. He failed as a gm in green bay too. And he wasn't on the field coaching qbs.

And the idea that holmgren is out of touch is ridiculous. Again, he coordinated for joe Montana. He coached steve young, a mobile qb. Then he coached Brett favre, a more big Ben like gunslinger. Then matt hasselbeck, a pure pocket qb. Three hall of famers. Hasselbeck was good too. And unlike big Ben, three of those guys were prospects nobody else saw potential in. I don't know what to say if cp is seriously trying to sell that cowher is a better guy for qbs than holmgren. Let me repeat. He coached three hall of fame qbs, with three different styles, in three different eras. If he can coach steve young, he sure as hell can coach Geno smith.

That's true, he does love everyone at every position. Still not really cool with finding out which ones he doesn't love and which ones he does. I think its pretty damn realistic that Gruden takes Alex Smith with him wherever he ends up.

WTF?

Where are the big QB eff ups in Seattle?

SB appearance w/Holmgren [w/one of the more suspect SB losses in history], way overperforming with a breakout rookie QB under Carroll.

You are telling me you'd rather have Clark Hunt select your head coach than Ron Wolf? Ok.

Dumb.

I am intrigued by gruden because of his obsession with the spread. And because he has stated the importance of a qb. I just haven't seen enough evidence that cow her would not prefer to build a suffocating defense first, a power running game as the centerpiece of the offense, and then a qb who can win games in that context. Do I see him as a guy who would ever go pass first? I don't see it.

I'm not saying he hasn't changed. But right now that's been his history.

The new GM will want a brain to pick, like Scott got from Herm. Romeo's "I don't know" wouldn't be much help

Rex Grossman appeared in a SB too.

Sorry, but Matt Hasselbeck isn't going to put anyone over the top for a 65 year old Mike Holmgren.

Um, Seattle had some success with Holmgren. The downfall was not replacing the older players and having a successor for Hasselbeck in place.

Why do you think that? What's the Alex smith connection I'm missing.

I think it's likely he doesn't criticize b/c he planned on returning to coaching, and didn’t want to bad mouth someone who might wind up as one of his players...

While I agree that no one ultimately gives a shit, only a fool would think they don't know what SOC is, and haven't heard about the things that have been done.

Gruden loves trash qbs.