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whoman69 08-01-2012 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8783315)
Supposedly defensive line I guess. Better stock up on first rounders so we can build it the right way!
What the hell is the expectation of someone who would even believe that? Do we need to have an all-pro at every position?

whoman69 08-01-2012 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8783315)
Supposedly defensive line I guess. Better stock up on first rounders so we can build it the right way!
What's the expectation for someone who believes this? Do we need to have an All-Pro at every position?

Hammock Parties 08-01-2012 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8781063)
The Steelers were 9-7 that year and did not make the playoffs.

They've beat three playoff teams.

7-9 Seattle.

8-8 Denver.

15-1 Packers.
Kyle Orton FTMFW

RealSNR 08-01-2012 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8783433)
What's the expectation for someone who believes this? Do we need to have an All-Pro at every position?
Dunno.

It does pose an interesting question, though. Let's say Dorsey and Jackson were both MISERABLE players. Like, stinky farty. Nate Hobgood-Chittick level bad.

How would the Chiefs go about fixing that mess? I mean, would they really just go out and spend some first rounders on some new players? Would they make some trades? Sign some big players? I don't know how one fixes that mess. It's one thing to roll the dice on a first round QB and have it not work out. Then you just try again. But to spend THREE top-11 draft picks on your entire defensive line? My God, you don't just try again with that.

DaneMcCloud 08-01-2012 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8783452)
Dunno.

It does pose an interesting question, though. Let's say Dorsey and Jackson were both MISERABLE players. Like, stinky farty. Nate Hobgood-Chittick level bad.

How would the Chiefs go about fixing that mess? I mean, would they really just go out and spend some first rounders on some new players? Would they make some trades? Sign some big players? I don't know how one fixes that mess. It's one thing to roll the dice on a first round QB and have it not work out. Then you just try again. But to spend THREE top-11 draft picks on your entire defensive line? My God, you don't just try again with that.
You know what really suck? If Clay's Wet Dream were to come true and Pioli and Crennel fired after this season, only to bring in a new GM & HC that want to run the 4-3.

Three more years of first round defensive lineman.

Hammock Parties 08-01-2012 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8783458)
You know what really suck? If Clay's Wet Dream were to come true and Pioli and Crennel fired after this season, only to bring in a new GM & HC that want to run the 4-3.

Three more years of first round defensive lineman.
I would sincerely hope that we brought in a GM who wasn't chained to a system.

Priority #1 upon Pioli's beheading should be hiring a flexible GM who isn't interested in waste management (one could describe Pioli's entire Chiefs career to this point as waste management, actually).

DaneMcCloud 08-01-2012 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8783472)
I would sincerely hope that we brought in a GM who wasn't chained to a system.
They're all chained to a system. Even John Fox switched back in Denver. Wade Phillips flipped the Texans. Rob Ryan changed the Cowboys.

On and on and on and on.

tredadda 08-01-2012 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8783458)
You know what really suck? If Clay's Wet Dream were to come true and Pioli and Crennel fired after this season, only to bring in a new GM & HC that want to run the 4-3.

Three more years of first round defensive lineman.
Which means three more years the QB position will be ignored.

Titty Meat 08-01-2012 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8783458)
You know what really suck? If Clay's Wet Dream were to come true and Pioli and Crennel fired after this season, only to bring in a new GM & HC that want to run the 4-3.

Three more years of first round defensive lineman.
It's funny you say this because before you left you and Hamas were saying how this team should go back to the 4-3.

Hammock Parties 08-01-2012 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8783477)
They're all chained to a system. Even John Fox switched back in Denver. Wade Phillips flipped the Texans. Rob Ryan changed the Cowboys.

On and on and on and on.
Then bring in a 3-4 guy.

Rasputin 08-01-2012 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8783452)
Dunno.

It does pose an interesting question, though. Let's say Dorsey and Jackson were both MISERABLE players. Like, stinky farty. Nate Hobgood-Chittick level bad.

How would the Chiefs go about fixing that mess? I mean, would they really just go out and spend some first rounders on some new players? Would they make some trades? Sign some big players? I don't know how one fixes that mess. It's one thing to roll the dice on a first round QB and have it not work out. Then you just try again. But to spend THREE top-11 draft picks on your entire defensive line? My God, you don't just try again with that.
We had a bust in a first round QB some thirty years of one Todd Blackledge. We havn't sniffed at taking a first round QB since. Yet we have hoarded first round D-line picks from the likes of Ryan hamburger Simms and so on. I don't get it?

RealSNR 08-01-2012 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8783496)
It's funny you say this because before you left you and Hamas were saying how this team should go back to the 4-3.
They probably said that.

In 2009.

That's what everybody thought.

Titty Meat 08-01-2012 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8783662)
They probably said that.

In 2009.

That's what everybody thought.
No it was 2010 and that's not what everybody said.

DaneMcCloud 08-01-2012 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8783483)
Which means three more years the QB position will be ignored.
Exactamundo

ToxSocks 08-01-2012 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8783721)
Exactamundo
Cassel is gonna Sandusky NFL defenses this year, you'll see


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