**** me. In my defense, I haven’t watched those movies in a long time.

Clooney or Kilmer as Batman?

That's the basecamp of the RDJ redemption, right?

Really a good movie.

Clooney.

That was Clooney. Bad casting of a really good actor. Didn't matter anyway since no one could have saved that pile of shit.

IIRC she had very high standards

Boy did it ever. It sucked from the opening scene (escaping a midair explosion on Batboards?) and never got better. I would have walked out but I was visiting a buddy in New York and watching at a theater in Staten Island. The place was packed. When it finally, mercifully ended, the crowd was silent. I then stood up and yelled, "THAT SUCKED!" and people started applauding me. LMAO

RIP to one of the greats. he will be missed.

So many great quotes for his character in Tombstone. Too young.

RIP :(

RIP, Val.

The ghost and the darkness. I liked that movie years ago when it came out, mainly because of Kilmer.

That’s a movie that would NEVER be made today.

"Whyyy, Johnny Ringo. You look you somebody just........walked over your grave."

I remember the audible gasps in the theater the first time I saw that movie. Great moment to experience live, and a great look at how Val crushed that role. How he didn't win Best Supporting Actor for playing Doc will forever be a mystery.

I just learned there is controversy over what Kilmers line was in Tombstone and the actual meaning:


In Tombstone, did Doc say "I'm your Huckleberry" or "I'm your huckle bearer"? And what did he mean?

People have long quoted this wrong.

A huckle bearer is also the term they used for pall bearer. The huckle is the handle on the side of the coffin.

Well, whomever you picked that up from is an idiot

It was a guy on Siruis radio. So I googled it.


Apparently Kilmer stated he didn’t remember, but his accent may have caused the confusion.

Look it up. And you back that queen again and I'll blow you up that wildcats ass!

Val Kilmer titled his memoir "I'm Your Huckleberry: A Memoir" and has explained it was in the script as "huckleberry" and that it's an idiom that means, "I'm your man for the job" or thereabouts.

Well that settles that then.

Not sure why there is a controversy and how it started? The internet is stupid.

RIP to one of the best of all time, his Doc Holliday performance is just unforgettable, gone too soon. 😢
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Curly Bill and the rest of us say goodbye to a cinematic icon. RIP.

A genuine movie star, none of these new guys even come close... RIP, Val

Kevrunner, looking at the image on that video still...he would have made an excellent Albert wesker for a resident evil film.

That's too bad. He was in some really cheezy scifi movies. RIP. Cancer sucks.

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I remember watching some video about Tombstone and they claimed (I'm not saying what they say is true or not btw) that way back in the old old days, like when they would joust and shit, a challenger would put a little wreath of huckleberry on their weapon to signify that they wanted to challenge someone. Or something like that. Then they got into the daisy thing, Doc Holliday was saying 'you're no daisy' at the end of the movie and they claimed that back in the old days if you called someone a daisy it meant they were tough because the flower is a tough flower.

:deevee:

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You know something I've always done, especially back when I was a social drinker. Sometimes I would get into a conversation about why I didn't like someone. Usually co-workers at a bar after work. "I don't really care for that new guy" or something. And then someone would ask why and I would always say and I would try to make it sound like Val Kilmer in that scene "I don't know, there's just something about him, something around the eyes" and nobody ever connected that to the movie lol but that's why I would say it.

Madmartigan:: What the hell happened up there?
Willow:: You started spouting poetry. 'I love you Sorsha! I worship you Sorsha!' You almost got us killed!
Madmartigan:: 'I love you Sorsha?' I don't love her, she kicked me in the face! I hate her... Don't I?

"And you, music lover... You're next"

Another longtime rumor/legend about ‘Tombstone’ is that Kurt Russell ghost directed it.

It’s known that the original director was replaced partially thru filming, so it’s somewhat plausible he might have taken over filming for a bit before the new director showed up.

Bet those were the best parts then

"I have two guns, one for each of ya."

It shows how good he was in that movie as he wasn’t the main character but stole the show.

Always a tragedy when the world loses a VK.

Great actor and seemed like a really cool person. He is one of those actors who for most parts -- its hard to tell if they are even acting.

He will be missed.

R.I.P.

Great movie

No one's going to post it?

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Not appropriate for this thread sir!

😂

Sadly, it should say "Well.... hello."

Tombstone is the most entertaining but the Wyatt Earp movie is the better film.

I never have an issue watching either one. But I completely agree with your assessment. They are very different films for covering much of the same ground, but when actual people/events are portrayed, I tend to prefer stories that stick closer to the truth.

Tombstone is a straight up action movie, while Wyatt Earp is a far more accurate character study. Wyatt and Doc were not nice, likeable guys. Kostner's cranky, sullen Earp is far more grounded in reality. Wyatt simply lived long enough to create his own legend while hobnobbing with early Hollywood western stars. And while everybody (including me) loves Kilmer's Doc, Quaid plays him as he was - a bitter, angry, terminally ill alcoholic. Quaid even looks the part - people calling Kilmer "skinny" didn't make him thin.

The main area where Wyatt Earp suffers is the lack of a strong villain - there simply aren't any. Curly Bill is nothing more than a background character and Johnny Ringo is only seen when Doc shoots him and doesn't even have a line a dialogue. Obviously Boothe, Biehn and Lang put Tombstone way over the top in the antagonist department. Tombstone in general has a far superior supporting cast.

I don't remember any recent stories about his health taking a turn for the worse.

He went through a lot of shit. Sad at 65

Kilmer is also in Commanche Moon as Inesh Skull. It's the prequel to Lonesome Dove and he's great.

I enjoyed Thunderheart back in the day, as well.

I love that movie. Kilmer and Graham Greene made a great team.

I agree. I like both. The scope of Wyatt Earp is much bigger too, it's not a film largely about the villains per se and the Cochise County War. I love the end scene with the lynch mob. I believe in actual events that Johnny Ringo organized that lynch mob (which is loosely depicted Tombstone in the turn your head a canoe scene).

I don't think much has changed in Reservation life.

I've been there. It's just as nasty as portrayed in the movie. Right up there with the west side of Chicago and rural Mississippi.

Tombstone is more pulpy and fun.

Wyatt Warp is more downbeat.


They are both entertaining in their own way.

Forgot he did the Saint remake. That was a better than decent mid 90s action flick.

R.I.P Val you will be missed.

Top Gun movies
Heat
Batman & Robin
Real Genius
The Doors
Top Secret
Tombstone

Tombstone Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo

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No love for Willow I see.

I really, really disliked that movie. It being a shameless, almost point-for-point ripoff of Star Wars, with a dwarf Luke and Kilmer as Han Solo, and a baby being carried instead of Death Star plans. At least Lucas ripped himself off.

I was in my 20s when I saw it. Perhaps I would have enjoyed it more had I seen it as a child, but instead I just left the theater angry.

I get it, but Kilmer was still very good in it.

He did a Mark Twain one-man show.

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I watched a couple of YouTube videos about the Mark Twain thing. It looks really interesting. Couldn't find the full performance, though.

Val also had a percieved mercurial personality to some because he was a "space cadet" being a creative that some didn't get specifically directors.

Real Genius was my first exposure to him. Loved him and his big personality.

I even got a pair of bunny slippers and "I love nuclear waste" T shirt back in the late 80's. He was just my type of smart ass....

I Aced this!!!!!!!!

I really, REALLY need to see this.

Also want to watch top secret again, but pretty sure I haven't since it was in the theaters and I was (looking it up) 14. I may not think much of it anymore, but I'm a sucker for the slapstick comedies (airplane, naked gun, blazing Saddles, etc).

It's definitely worth a $4 rental on Amazon Prime. Fantastic, hilarious movie. And according to my best friend, who has a physics PhD, very accurate in terms of what life in graduate school is like.

And keep watching the end credits until the picture fades out. :)